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(03-29-2017 03:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It may actually be pretty interesting if they look at putting the band in those cutouts on foldaway breachers. Solves two issues, gets them closer to the field and opens up more unobstructed seating for paying fans.
I recommended that a number of pages back. I personally think that's a no-brainer.
(03-30-2017 10:00 AM)AeroCat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-29-2017 03:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It may actually be pretty interesting if they look at putting the band in those cutouts on foldaway breachers. Solves two issues, gets them closer to the field and opens up more unobstructed seating for paying fans.
I recommended that a number of pages back. I personally think that's a no-brainer.
i'm not so sure. I don't really care. but, with the rotc guys and their cannon, the band / cheerleader equipment, there are probably several uses for the cutouts, other than metal / portable bleachers, that may "blend in", aesthetically, better than bleachers would. or, that would at least be less of a sore thumb look than the bleachers.
(03-30-2017 11:03 AM)dave108 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 10:00 AM)AeroCat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-29-2017 03:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It may actually be pretty interesting if they look at putting the band in those cutouts on foldaway breachers. Solves two issues, gets them closer to the field and opens up more unobstructed seating for paying fans.
I recommended that a number of pages back. I personally think that's a no-brainer.
i'm not so sure. I don't really care. but, with the rotc guys and their cannon, the band / cheerleader equipment, there are probably several uses for the cutouts, other than metal / portable bleachers, that may "blend in", aesthetically, better than bleachers would. or, that would at least be less of a sore thumb look than the bleachers.
To be fair, if they're occupied, they won't stick out anyways.
The fences around Nippert are going down today. Students can get back on the field.
Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
(03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
So, looking at the notch, there is enough room for the band, but is not the preferred arrangement for a musical performance as we're extremely far apart, so we'll end up having phasing issues at various parts of the stadium. I do like the idea of moving to the Bearcat Lair though.
(03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely
not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
(03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I'm going to ignore the rest, but even minus the issue with lack of woodwinds which I won't get into, you can't split up the band like that. Phasing problems would be absurd and the sound would not line up with each other in any sense of the term in most places of the stadium. The band has to stay together in some sense of a tight formation when in the stands.
(03-30-2017 02:03 PM)MercerCo_BearCat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I'm going to ignore the rest, but even minus the issue with lack of woodwinds which I won't get into, you can't split up the band like that. Phasing problems would be absurd and the sound would not line up with each other in any sense of the term in most places of the stadium. The band has to stay together in some sense of a tight formation when in the stands.
Brass and Percussion don't seem to ever perform together anyways, all the percussion cadences are unaccompanied at this point...or at least that is what it seems like from the last two years. I get it though, I'm just not a fan of the band occupying valuable real estate, especially given the fact that we just reduced capacity.
(03-30-2017 02:03 PM)MercerCo_BearCat Wrote: [ -> ]I'm going to ignore the rest, but even minus the issue with lack of woodwinds which I won't get into, you can't split up the band like that. Phasing problems would be absurd and the sound would not line up with each other in any sense of the term in most places of the stadium. The band has to stay together in some sense of a tight formation when in the stands.
Guys guys, piece of cake. We're getting a fancy pants new sound system. Just pipe band tracks through the sound system and let the band members pretend to play.
It seems like the easy solution for the band would be to keep them near section 110 where they are now with some of the band sitting in temporary aluminum bleachers and the rest sitting in the stands behind them. But I think those notches are bigger than most people realize. Maybe I'm crazy, but to me it looks like most if not all of the band members would fit in one of the notches. Previously the only space allocated to the band was the first dozen or so rows of section 110. The notches look to be about 6 or 7 rows deep across 2 1/2 sections.
OSU keeps their band in the open end of their stadium, facing the entire crowd, rather than in a corner facing another corner. I certainly don't care for OSU, but I give credit where credit is due... they know how to properly utilize (and financially support, cough cough) a college marching band. Just sayin'. Additionally, I checked ticket prices. Vivid Seats doesn't seem to be selling any tickets for any section near 110, but tickets in section 118 (west side equivalent to section 110) were more expensive than section 133 in the Bearcat Lair, $67 as opposed to $54 for SMU and $40 as opposed to $32 for the Austin Peay game. It seems like section 110 would bring in more money than the middle of the Bearcat Lair.
(03-30-2017 03:31 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]OSU keeps their band in the open end of their stadium, facing the entire crowd, rather than in a corner facing another corner. I certainly don't care for OSU, but I give credit where credit is due... they know how to properly utilize (and financially support, cough cough) a college marching band. Just sayin'. Additionally, I checked ticket prices. Vivid Seats doesn't seem to be selling any tickets for any section near 110, but tickets in section 118 (west side equivalent to section 110) were more expensive than section 133 in the Bearcat Lair, $67 as opposed to $54 for SMU and $40 as opposed to $32 for the Austin Peay game. It seems like section 110 would bring in more money than the middle of the Bearcat Lair.
If that's the case, then I'd be fine with it (and personally, OSU and UC will NEVER be similar in the marching band situation). There are a few conference mates who don't even have bands at their home games, so doing anything would be a step up there. I personally just don't like the thought of losing an "experience" section with fans who tend to show up and get loud. Funny thing is, OSU also has their band on metal bleachers in obstructed view seating closer and lower to the field than the viewing public.
And this all may be moot once the bands direction has changed with Dr. Frenz moving on. I just don't think the band in its current iteration is a huge contribution to the experience. It CAN be, but it hasn't been for quite some time. Yes there are financial reasons as well, but truth be told, the fact that the support they get already is given is pretty astonishing.
(03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
(03-30-2017 04:38 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
Get off my lawn!
(03-30-2017 04:38 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
I'm with you man, that's a great environment in the Lair, and having the band up there would kill it.
(03-30-2017 05:06 PM)gerhard911 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 04:38 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
Get off my lawn!
Maybe they can move the Lair to the new cutout section. Problem solved.
(03-30-2017 05:16 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 05:06 PM)gerhard911 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 04:38 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
Get off my lawn!
Maybe they can move the Lair to the new cutout section. Problem solved.
Actually I was bustin' balls. Peeps in the Lair love it there.
(03-30-2017 04:38 PM)kyucat Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 01:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-30-2017 12:55 PM)TubaCat Wrote: [ -> ]Again with this band idea? Putting the band in those two notches is silly:
1. Not nearly enough room, would need 2x-3x more.
2. Impossible to adequately coordinate playing between two groups that far apart (conductor visibility and sound delay), unless the NCAA would allow us to have a drum major standing in one spot on the field during the entire game. This might actually work, I'm sure players will be considerate and avoid that part of the field. (Very heavy sarcasm here, it's a terrible idea.)
There is a very realistic possibility that I've mentioned before... move the band to the middle of the Bearcat Lair, sections 132-134. Not just would it open up the more valuable seating in section 110, it would allow the band to play into the entire stadium, which is much better acoustically than section 110. There are no seats behind the Bearcat Lair, so no one loses visibility. Win/win.
The only logistical issue could be getting the band to and from the field in a timely manner. I'm just brainstorming here, but I imagine they could either put in a staircase in the northeast corner or the band could try going out through the northwest exit and coming in through the tunnel.
If we carried brass only for game duties (which seems to be happening more and more nowadays) you don't think we would have enough room to go brass in one notch and percussion on the other, given that they'd be 7-10 rows and a full section wide?
I have numerous friends who are band alums who agree with me on this, so I hope you know I don't mean any offense or belittlement given your affiliation with them, but I think the band should be in the absolute least valuable seats in the lower bowl, which would absolutely not be the center of the Bearcat Lair. Realistically, the best place for the band would be where they used to be (on the north edge of the bowl on the east side of stadium across from the visitors allotment). No one wants to sit there and it would give back more valuable seating. At the end of the day, none of this really matters because unfortunately the band will stay right where they're at, just my two cents.
I can tell you that most of the 2500 seats in the Bearcatlair are season ticket holders that have had those seats for years. I am one of those season ticket holders..
NO way do I want the band in that section of the stadium. I am also sure most season ticket holders in the Lair would agree with me. So keep the band where it is..
Do not move the band.
The Lair at Nippert is like the Dawg Pound int Cleveland. Do fix what is not broken.
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