The new CUSA has fallen to 25th.
The league is gotten much worse not better
Only ONE top 100 team.
Eleven Are cup cakes (including 194th UAB)
IMHO we may end with a below 200 RPI playing in a "low" major league
What a "suckee" league !!!
And we're barely in the top 200 RPI. That's not the conference's fault. Yeah, CUSA is a huge dumpster fire, but a lot of our historically good programs are struggling and we are one of them.
rpiforecast:
Expected RPI:
161 UAB
211 Charlotte
226 WKU
317 UTEP
Current RPI:
147 Charlotte
191 UAB
245 WKU
345 UTEP
Football is the key to a better league long term.
So we shouldn't complain about short term crappiness of the conference because it is all part of a well-thought out long term plan put together by our leadership in the athletic department.
Gotcha.
Did I say we should not complain about the league? Did I miss something? We have every right to complain about a league that has not lived up to it's billing and we have contributed to it. I just meerly pointed out that football will be an avenue to a better league affiliation down the road.
There is no well thought out plan by the athletic department as evident by the last two years but there is a well thought out plan by the Foundation.
League looks to be doing pretty good football wise and on the up swing. I'm very disappointed in the fact that the league has not mirrored that upswing in Men's Basketball.
Basketball is much harder to build than football because you have to be right on many fewer recruits, and there are fewer to choose from in the first place since there, for instance, is no "ESPN Top 300" list for basketball. The "McDonald Team" and the "Parade Magazine teams" list only a couple of dozen or so each for the whole nation (and some of those are probably duplicates).
The farther a school is down the "basketball school" listing, the harder it is to know what you are getting each year. "Problematical" becomes the operative term in this case.
(12-28-2016 04:42 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]Football is the key to a better league long term.
I got curious and looked - hell the sunbelt is also a better rated league in football.
New CUSA is the WORST league in FOOTBALL ALSO per Nolen.
Did our well thought out plan -know this fact - do we expect any better league to not check due diligence.
I know we/UAB fans are blinded by a fondness for old CUSA but new CUSA also appears to be long term BAD for football also
(12-28-2016 06:41 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Basketball is much harder to build than football because you have to be right on many fewer recruits, and there are fewer to choose from in the first place since there, for instance, is no "ESPN Top 300" list for basketball. The "McDonald Team" and the "Parade Magazine teams" list only a couple of dozen or so each for the whole nation (and some of those are probably duplicates).
The farther a school is down the "basketball school" listing, the harder it is to know what you are getting each year. "Problematical" becomes the operative term in this case.
That is totally incorrect.
So...can we get in the Sunbelt?
He's right about football being the ticket.
Complaining really doesn't mean much when we're part of the problem and it's not like you just up and fall up into a better conference. It'd be one thing if we were out here like gangbusters, but I just feel like we squandered talent and opportunity so much lately that I can't even talk about any of the other programs.
The conference is just the house that we live in. It's just in bad shape because only a couple of programs are doing their part, and we're definitely not a part of them. If we're regulated to being the worst conference in both revenue sports, I don't get how folks can be acting like we deserve anything when we're a big part of that perception.
I mean, it's not even like the alternative would have been viable. Probably would be just as mediocre except in the Atlantic Sun, Southland, or whatever.
I'm not arguing Nolans rankings, but I find it hard to believe CUSA football is that bad. I honestly wouldn't rank CUSA football too far below the AAC and MWC and at least even with the MAC and Sunbelt. I know bowl results don't tell the whole story but we definitely performed as well as or better than our G5 brethren.
As for CUSA basketball, yeah it's terrible. We don't help that situation, at least not this year.
(12-28-2016 08:02 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]He's right about football being the ticket.
Complaining really doesn't mean much when we're part of the problem and it's not like you just up and fall up into a better conference. It'd be one thing if we were out here like gangbusters, but I just feel like we squandered talent and opportunity so much lately that I can't even talk about any of the other programs.
The conference is just the house that we live in. It's just in bad shape because only a couple of programs are doing their part, and we're definitely not a part of them. If we're regulated to being the worst conference in both revenue sports, I don't get how folks can be acting like we deserve anything when we're a big part of that perception.
I mean, it's not even like the alternative would have been viable. Probably would be just as mediocre except in the Atlantic Sun, Southland, or whatever.
This.
(12-28-2016 08:38 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ] (12-28-2016 08:02 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]He's right about football being the ticket.
Complaining really doesn't mean much when we're part of the problem and it's not like you just up and fall up into a better conference. It'd be one thing if we were out here like gangbusters, but I just feel like we squandered talent and opportunity so much lately that I can't even talk about any of the other programs.
The conference is just the house that we live in. It's just in bad shape because only a couple of programs are doing their part, and we're definitely not a part of them. If we're regulated to being the worst conference in both revenue sports, I don't get how folks can be acting like we deserve anything when we're a big part of that perception.
I mean, it's not even like the alternative would have been viable. Probably would be just as mediocre except in the Atlantic Sun, Southland, or whatever.
This.
Nope this can't be right Memphis Blazer said it was wrong.
And that settles it.
(12-28-2016 09:15 PM)Rebounder2u Wrote: [ -> ] (12-28-2016 08:38 PM)Big Dee Wrote: [ -> ] (12-28-2016 08:02 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]He's right about football being the ticket.
Complaining really doesn't mean much when we're part of the problem and it's not like you just up and fall up into a better conference. It'd be one thing if we were out here like gangbusters, but I just feel like we squandered talent and opportunity so much lately that I can't even talk about any of the other programs.
The conference is just the house that we live in. It's just in bad shape because only a couple of programs are doing their part, and we're definitely not a part of them. If we're regulated to being the worst conference in both revenue sports, I don't get how folks can be acting like we deserve anything when we're a big part of that perception.
I mean, it's not even like the alternative would have been viable. Probably would be just as mediocre except in the Atlantic Sun, Southland, or whatever.
This.
Nope this can't be right Memphis Blazer said it was wrong.
And that settles it.
Really?
Grow up.
I haven't even commented on his post.
Short of an invite to the A-10 or MVC:
Take UAB, WKU, ODU, Charlotte, Middle Tenn, La Tech, USM and break away from the bottom feeders...then add a team or two from the Belt, or a Winthrop, Murray State/etc and build up basketball again (while still playing football)
IF....the new C-USA is such a godawful conference THEN...UAB should dominate it. Period.
I don't understand complaining about our conference affiliation when we are not taking advantage of being placed in a situation that should be placing us in a position to succeed. The best example of this is Memphis dominating C-USA making this a 1-bid league. It wasn't because the rest of the conference was really that bad; Memphis just made it look that way.
(12-29-2016 05:09 AM)CourtsideBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]IF....the new C-USA is such a godawful conference THEN...UAB should dominate it. Period.
I don't understand complaining about our conference affiliation when we are not taking advantage of being placed in a situation that should be placing us in a position to succeed. The best example of this is Memphis dominating C-USA making this a 1-bid league. It wasn't because the rest of the conference was really that bad; Memphis just made it look that way.
Right. But this time CUSA really is that bad. When Memphis was dominating CUSA, CUSA had an RPI between 8-14. CUSA currently has an RPI of 25. That's atrocious. But again, UAB certainly isnt doing anything to help the situation so perhaps CUSA is exactly where we belong.
If we are going to get out of this mess, we are going to have to do what Memphis did. The key isn't football. The key isn't basketball. The key is waking up as an athletic department and actually believing that we can compete on a national stage and that by doing so it will be better for the university as a whole. Then we actually have to do the hard work that it takes to be successful. Right now, it appears that the only people with that mindset are working with the football program, but even then, it feels like the right attitude exists more outside of our administration than within.
We were worried about the basketball hire going to someone other than Ehsan...the administration probably only put the search together for show because they were fired up that the fan-base wanted the guy with zero head coaching experience and they could cut the salary by over 50%. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Ehsan too, but there wasn't any other coach in the running that I seriously thought would take us to the next level. It seems our administration just doesn't think that way. Every guy that comes in is starting over and trying to reinvent the wheel...we have never been able to take advantage of the momentum left behind by a coach moving on because of his success.
You are only as strong as your weakest link, and when to comes to athletics we have many weak links.
