Supposedly this will have 2,000 bleacher seats in the end zone, and another 1,000 club seats above it with a Club Room for Yosef Club members one level below the club seats.
In the far left of this picture you can see the west side of KBS in white in the background for reference.
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That looks really good. New video board will be nice next year. Can't wait to see some movement on this
Will this project move the track??? Is their a flat spot on campus big enough to put a new track facility???
Looks good, wish we had a stadium that we could talk about improving.....
I love it. I'm not a big proponent of expanding our seating significantly. Maybe a couple more permanent seats, but ultimately we are not going to draw more than 35,000 to Boone unless we get ECU or a Tobacco Road school up there.
I would MUCH rather us just focus on improving the current facility, like above.
I think you'll see a higher percentage of club seats in that facility.
(12-22-2016 10:05 AM)ah59396 Wrote: [ -> ]I love it. I'm not a big proponent of expanding our seating significantly. Maybe a couple more permanent seats, but ultimately we are not going to draw more than 35,000 to Boone unless we get ECU or a Tobacco Road school up there.
I would MUCH rather us just focus on improving the current facility, like above.
Agreed. Give us a permanent 26-28k seats and the standing room only and hill can handle the overflow.
Eventually the track will be removed, all these steps including the new video board are steps in the right direction. The program continues to trend up, the donor base has been growing for decades, and with more club seats that will only help. Our AD is a man with a plan and that is seen with his creativity when it comes to funding, window dressings, and actions.
(12-22-2016 10:19 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 10:05 AM)ah59396 Wrote: [ -> ]I love it. I'm not a big proponent of expanding our seating significantly. Maybe a couple more permanent seats, but ultimately we are not going to draw more than 35,000 to Boone unless we get ECU or a Tobacco Road school up there.
I would MUCH rather us just focus on improving the current facility, like above.
Agreed. Give us a permanent 26-28k seats and the standing room only and hill can handle the overflow.
28k permanent should be our limit for the next decade. A large building with about 5 -6 stories where the field house is currently will only make those 28k sound like 50 on third down. Look at how Century Link Field in Seattle is designed, keep the noise channeled at the field. Due to our stadium location with elevation on all sides but the field house side we do that if this project moves forward.
In looking at that pic above.....is the stadium on the left?
I can't see where it's fitting. Looks great though.
That would be a huge change in the current layout. I'll believe it actually will happen when they break ground as this is a complete shift from what was being fed to donors since the previous facility upgrades.
Sofield will have the indoor facility and whatever this facility is called named after him. The article is more of a sales pitch than anything it seems; I doubt the urgency on either end of the deal.
(12-22-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]That would be a huge change in the current layout. I'll believe it actually will happen when they break ground as this is a complete shift from what was being fed to donors since the previous facility upgrades.
Sofield will have the indoor facility and whatever this facility is called named after him. The article is more of a sales pitch than anything it seems; I doubt the urgency on either end of the deal.
Sales pitch to whom? The players are all in place and were all were fully disclosed. This is a private investment with potential revenue at stake for the partners involved. There is more urgency than you think.
I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done, but atleast now the University is finally admitting that they are working to improve the facilities.
(12-22-2016 12:55 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]That would be a huge change in the current layout. I'll believe it actually will happen when they break ground as this is a complete shift from what was being fed to donors since the previous facility upgrades.
Sofield will have the indoor facility and whatever this facility is called named after him. The article is more of a sales pitch than anything it seems; I doubt the urgency on either end of the deal.
Sales pitch to whom? The players are all in place and were all were fully disclosed. This is a private investment with potential revenue at stake for the partners involved. There is more urgency than you think.
The sales pitch for a combination of public and private funds. The project would still need approval for use of school (public funds) and would need to have an additional fund raising effort for private funds.
There are three partners on the private side however they will not be fully funding the private portion. The reason I say that there is no urgency is because this demolishing of Owens Field House has been talked about for at least 7 or so years now.
(12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done.
Sounds like ODU has come down to earth after a few years of actual play. I'm not formality with the detail of the original pan, but it sounds like their needs are more in line with their current plan, obviously. Smart decision on their behalf. This north end zone plan will also facilitate Apps current needs, and is not based on speculation, like ODU's original stadium plan.
(12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done, but atleast now the University is finally admitting that they are working to improve the facilities.
The article is clearly a sales pitch. The language is discussing how great it "could" be for Soefield to get the "opportunity" to take part in this project because he knows the market. Everything said in the article is future tense and seems speculative at best at this point. While a rendering would suggest that the school has sent out requests for information, they haven't moved past that phase.
This is exploratory and nothing more. Anyone involved in any sort of professional project management knows the steps involved and that prior to a Proposal being accepted, everything is on the table, including but not limited to scrapping the idea entirely.
(12-22-2016 01:05 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done.
Sounds like ODU has come down to earth after a few years of actual play. I'm not formality with the detail of the original pan, but it sounds like their needs are more in line with their current plan, obviously. Smart decision on their behalf. This north end zone plan will also facilitate Apps current needs, and is not based on speculation, like ODU's original stadium plan.
This is very early in the project management process and is subject to extreme changes. This is but one rendering likely pitched to the school. At this stage, you are throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks. As amazing as that rendering is, there is no way the funds are in place, private or public, to even discuss it being a reality.
This is more in line with Soefield reaching out to the University and not vice versa.
(12-22-2016 01:02 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 12:55 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 12:19 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]That would be a huge change in the current layout. I'll believe it actually will happen when they break ground as this is a complete shift from what was being fed to donors since the previous facility upgrades.
Sofield will have the indoor facility and whatever this facility is called named after him. The article is more of a sales pitch than anything it seems; I doubt the urgency on either end of the deal.
Sales pitch to whom? The players are all in place and were all were fully disclosed. This is a private investment with potential revenue at stake for the partners involved. There is more urgency than you think.
The sales pitch for a combination of public and private funds. The project would still need approval for use of school (public funds) and would need to have an additional fund raising effort for private funds.
There are three partners on the private side however they will not be fully funding the private portion. The reason I say that there is no urgency is because this demolishing of Owens Field House has been talked about for at least 7 or so years now.
The board has approved this to be funded in a PPP structure. The investors are in place and the university is on board. The sales pitch was long ago. Feasibility study under way. Still work to be done, but the major pieces are in place. You've heard talk about Owens. This is much more than talk. Owens will be gone in the next year.
(12-22-2016 01:08 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 01:05 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote: [ -> ] (12-22-2016 12:57 PM)moehler Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know about that, if Sofield and the University are making this public, then at the very least they believe there is a good chance this will happen sooner rather than later, If they get the details worked out I would guess probably in the next 3 or 4 years, but, I do see your point, I keep thinking back to ODU and that brand new 35,000 seat stadium they we're going to build on the river 4 or 5 years ago, fast forward to the present, the river stadium has been scraped, they are now going to renovate the current stadium with maximum seating of 22,000, and at a fraction of what they intended to spend, things change from original intentions, all we can do is hope this gets done.
Sounds like ODU has come down to earth after a few years of actual play. I'm not formality with the detail of the original pan, but it sounds like their needs are more in line with their current plan, obviously. Smart decision on their behalf. This north end zone plan will also facilitate Apps current needs, and is not based on speculation, like ODU's original stadium plan.
This is very early in the project management process and is subject to extreme changes. This is but one rendering likely pitched to the school. At this stage, you are throwing poo at the wall and seeing what sticks. As amazing as that rendering is, there is no way the funds are in place, private or public, to even discuss it being a reality.
This is more in line with Soefield reaching out to the University and not vice versa.
This is further along than you think. Definitely past poo throwing. This is more the works of Gillian and Co, than Sofield alone, although Sofield is a player.
I get what your saying Ericsaid, Universities all the time jump the gun on major projects, then sometimes thru no fault of their own, are forced to either scale back or even scrap the plans, but this seems to have alittle more to it than just a sales pitch, when you get the board of trusties involved, then the school is serious about getting something done, again I'm cautiously optimistic, I think they are serious about this, but there could be yet to be determined roadblocks that either force us to scale back the project, delay the project, or worst case scenario scape it all together, though I think the odds of that happening are low.