Quick, name the D-I basketball and FBS coaches that have been head coach at their school for 25 years or more (the entire time spent in D-I):
Coach K
Just mercenaries now days. And within a few years, Coach K's name will disappear off the list as he retires. Now days, it's a miracle if they last more than a decade.
In fairness the other side of the coin exists too-- if you don't win enough you will be canned after a few years too. In some instances one bad year will cause a winning coach to be exiled (see Les Miles).
Les Miles hardly had one bad year, by LSU standards anyways.
when did div 1 ever have a bunch of 25 year veterans coaching 1 team?
you say its a new era, but there never has been an era like that.
(12-10-2016 07:33 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Just mercenaries now days. And within a few years, Coach K's name will disappear off the list as he retires. Now days, it's a miracle if they last more than a decade.
David Bailiff will kick off Year 11 at Rice.
Jim Boeheim has been at Syracuse for about 40 years. Dave Loos has been at Austin Peay more than 25 years.
Not many football coaches have ever made it 25 years. Bear Bryant didn't.
(12-10-2016 08:32 AM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]when did div 1 ever have a bunch of 25 year veterans coaching 1 team?
you say its a new era, but there never has been an era like that.
Let's see:
BB--Lute Olson at Arizona
FB--Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech
BB--Dean Smith at UNC
BB--Guy Lewis at Houston
BB--Ray Meyer at DePaul
BB--Denny Crum at Louisville
BB--Bob Knight at Indiana
BB--Jim Calhoun at UConn
BB--John Thompson at Georgetown
BB--Don Haskins at UTEP
FB--Bear Bryant at Alabama
FB--Eddie Robinson at Grambling (technically FCS but still relevant)
FB--Lavell Edwards at BYU
FB--Woody Hayes at Ohio State
FB-- Joe Pa at Penn State
And many more plus a few that just barely missed the cutoff of 25 years.
Let alone people who have been prominent assistants for a long time at one place like Mark Few at Gonzaga.
It's not like it used to be, where a few would stay at one spot their entire career or close to it. Nothing but mercenaries in sports and by extension, life.
(12-10-2016 09:32 AM)Go College Sports Wrote: [ -> ]Jim Boeheim has been at Syracuse for about 40 years. Dave Loos has been at Austin Peay more than 25 years.
Not many football coaches have ever made it 25 years. Bear Bryant didn't.
1958-82, yes he did (that's 25 different seasons). Unless my source is messed up.
Longest tenured coaches in FBS that I know are Stoops, Ferentz, and Patterson, plus Synder at Kansas without the gap.
I'm not sure this is unique to college athletics. The percentage of workers that remain at the same job for 10 years or more gets smaller by the day.
Kermit Davis and Rick Stockstill have both been at MTSU for over 10 years. I admire that kind of consistency in an athletic department.
(12-10-2016 10:32 AM)Wolfman Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure this is unique to college athletics. The percentage of workers that remain at the same job for 10 years or more gets smaller by the day.
See the end of post 7...
(12-10-2016 07:33 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Quick, name the D-I basketball and FBS coaches that have been head coach at their school for 25 years or more (the entire time spent in D-I):
Coach K
Just mercenaries now days. And within a few years, Coach K's name will disappear off the list as he retires. Now days, it's a miracle if they last more than a decade.
Someone on already mentioned Jim Boeheim and the guy at Austin Peay
And to be fair, if you are considering all of D1 basketball, you should consider FCS football as well as FBS, which would add Jimmy Laycock at William & Mary and Andy Talley at Villanova to the list. Mike Ayers has been at Wofford more than 25 years but only about 18 of years at DI-FCS.
But your point is well taken. Out of 300+ l DI (FBS and FCS incl) there are only 5 (6 if you count Ayers at Wofford)
(12-10-2016 09:40 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2016 08:32 AM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]when did div 1 ever have a bunch of 25 year veterans coaching 1 team?
you say its a new era, but there never has been an era like that.
Let's see:
BB--Lute Olson at Arizona
FB--Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech
BB--Dean Smith at UNC
BB--Guy Lewis at Houston
BB--Ray Meyer at DePaul
BB--Denny Crum at Louisville
BB--Bob Knight at Indiana
BB--Jim Calhoun at UConn
BB--John Thompson at Georgetown
BB--Don Haskins at UTEP
FB--Bear Bryant at Alabama
FB--Eddie Robinson at Grambling (technically FCS but still relevant)
FB--Lavell Edwards at BYU
FB--Woody Hayes at Ohio State
FB-- Joe Pa at Penn State
And many more plus a few that just barely missed the cutoff of 25 years.
Let alone people who have been prominent assistants for a long time at one place like Mark Few at Gonzaga.
It's not like it used to be, where a few would stay at one spot their entire career or close to it. Nothing but mercenaries in sports and by extension, life.
Exactly. Only 6 FBS coaches in history hit that mark. And how many years were they on the job AFTER 25 years?
Bear Bryant: 0 (lasted 25 years exactly)
Beamer: 4 years
JoePa: 21 years
Edwards: 4 years
Hayes: 3 years
Also, you forgot Amos Stagg (44 years at Chicago): 19
JoePa overlapped with Edwards and Beamer. So there have been more years WITHOUT any coaches being tenured for 25 years than there have been WITH one.
(12-10-2016 08:32 AM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]when did div 1 ever have a bunch of 25 year veterans coaching 1 team?
you say its a new era, but there never has been an era like that.
Houston had Bill Yeoman, Guy Lewis, Tom Tellez and Dave Williams for decades coaching football, basketball, track and golf during the same era. That's just one school.
(12-10-2016 09:40 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2016 08:32 AM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]when did div 1 ever have a bunch of 25 year veterans coaching 1 team?
you say its a new era, but there never has been an era like that.
Let's see:
BB--Lute Olson at Arizona
FB--Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech
BB--Dean Smith at UNC
BB--Guy Lewis at Houston
BB--Ray Meyer at DePaul
BB--Denny Crum at Louisville
BB--Bob Knight at Indiana
BB--Jim Calhoun at UConn
BB--John Thompson at Georgetown
BB--Don Haskins at UTEP
FB--Bear Bryant at Alabama
FB--Eddie Robinson at Grambling (technically FCS but still relevant)
FB--Lavell Edwards at BYU
FB--Woody Hayes at Ohio State
FB-- Joe Pa at Penn State
And many more plus a few that just barely missed the cutoff of 25 years.
Let alone people who have been prominent assistants for a long time at one place like Mark Few at Gonzaga.
It's not like it used to be, where a few would stay at one spot their entire career or close to it. Nothing but mercenaries in sports and by extension, life.
Showing your age. How can you not include the two most iconic basketball coaches of all time?
John Wooden UCLA-27 years
Adolph Rupp Kentucky-41 years
http://basketball.about.com/od/coaches/a...nships.htm
Coach
Titles
Years
John Wooden
10
1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975
Adolph Rupp
4
1948, 1949, 1951, 1958
Mike Krzyzewski
4
1991, 1992, 2001, 2010
Bob Knight
3
1976, 1981, 1987
Jim Calhoun
3
1999, 2004, 2011
Dean Smith
2
1982, 1993
Roy Williams
2
2005, 2009
Denny Crum
2
1980, 1986
Billy Donovan
2
2006, 2007
Ed Jucker
2
1961, 1962
Henry Iba
2
1945, 1946
Phil Woolpert
2
1955, 1956
Branch McCracken
2
1940, 1953
(12-10-2016 08:13 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Les Mils hardly had one bad year, by LSU standards anyways.
LSU standards I think you are way overvaluing what LSU has done. Miles has the best winning percentage of their coaches that has coached multiple seasons. He has multiple bowl wins and has one of their 3 national championships (of which no other coach has managed two). He has two conference championships and nobody else has more (some have the same number but nobody seems to have more).
By every objective metric he is the top of the pile of LSU coaches. Now if you want to make the point that he is the most frustrating coach that I can get behind that but if you look at it from the perspective of what he had done he is above their standards.
(12-10-2016 10:32 AM)Wolfman Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure this is unique to college athletics. The percentage of workers that remain at the same job for 10 years or more gets smaller by the day.
I can attest to this. For one reason or another (occupational hazard of spending most of my life in the dying husk of the print media industry), I've never had the same job for three years. It's a different world. The days of starting at the factory or the office and leaving it with a gold watch 40 years later are fading fast.
(12-10-2016 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]Showing your age. How can you not include the two most iconic basketball coaches of all time?
John Wooden UCLA-27 years
Adolph Rupp Kentucky-41 years
I was just listing examples genius, I even said "And many more plus a few that missed the cutoff of 25 years."
My point is we just don't see coaches stay long at places anymore.