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Outside of FBS as a whole deciding a criteria for teams to meet and going to 72-80 teams, and pooling revenues and negotiating as 1 for all television revenues(which I see as doubtful) I wonder if the best solution is to let the B1G, SEC, ACC & PAC agree to bid/divide up all 10 Big 12 teams in two groups of 5?

I can't see all 4 leagues getting enough value on the teams own merits to make it work so how about 5 & 5 going to two leagues. All Big 12 teams must be taken(maybe the ACC can have ND & WVU so one other non power team like Houston is added to the mix). Then they can add an additional school to have an even number to make it work. Probably every scenario is Texas & OU on opposite sides. I can see where each league could find value on a 5 team package and even two leagues or a 6/4 split or , but most leagues enough at the same time to make it work. Realize it has to be a balanced breakup to make it worth while for two leagues and there will be a school or two a league would not normally take but will have to for the opportunity at the better schools. The 6th school added may be a BYU, Houston, Cincy, or maybe CSU. If the ACC is involved their 6th school is ND. **We could even throw in leagues could do an existing trade of two schools to make a package work of dividing up the current 10. Lots of scenarios below, would any of them make 2 leagues happy enough or actually 3 assuming ACC gets ND.

ACC/PAC/B1G?: Texas, TT, Baylor, TCU, ISU or WVU
SEC: OU, OSU, KS, KSU, ISU or WVU

B1G: Texas, TT, Baylor, ISU, KS (additional school Houston) makes a play for state of Texas and picks up 3 AAU schools.
SEC: OU, OSU, KSU, TCU, WVU

PAC: OU, Neb., KS, TT, Houston, 1 or 2 of KSU, ISU & OSU(Old Big 8 brands & access to state of Texas) if league takes 1 of KSU, ISU, OSU they add BYU
SEC: Texas, TCU, Baylor, WVU and 2 of KSU, ISU & OSU, if league takes 1 of KSU, ISU & OSU they take Cincy
B1G: KS replaces Nebraska or UCONN replaces Nebraska with the realization Nebraska will never recreate their past in the B1G and UCONN helps in the Northeast/NY mkt.

B1G or SEC: OU, KS, ISU, Colorado, KSU, Missouri,Neb. (most of the old Big 8 with already having Neb. & 5 AAU schools) Either the B1G loses Neb. or SEC loses Missouri
PAC: Tx, TT, Baylor, OSU, TCU, BYU and/or Houston OR if PAC balks at this: SEC: Tx, TT, Baylor, TCU & Houston
SEC(If PAC takes the Texas contingent):TCU (since it lost Missouri a free agent and this helps with Fort Worth/Dallas mkt) or if PAC includes TCU, then WVU Cincy or East Carolina
ACC: ND & WVU/Cincy or UCONN
B1G: UCONN if it loses Nebraska

Lots of different scenarios but you have to make two leagues benefit with both top end talent and everyone is included.
How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

This is a good one. I think you get the idea everyone is benefitting to some degree, and probably takes a questionable school or two and we are done!

The real beauty of this would be if we did away with bowls and had expanded conference playoffs to 4-6 teams per league with the winner going to the CFP. No need for any polls, picking or choosing teams in this scenario. Leagues could go to pods or stay one full division and just lock in 4-6 games and rotate the rest of the way around the league. I think leagues would be large and diverse enough to go to at least 9 conference games maybe even 10!
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.
Some interesting trades could be the ACC willing to give up Va. Tech/NC St. or even a FSU/Clemson combo(but I think the leagues are better balanced if FSU & Clemson stay) in order to secure Texas & ND in the conference. If those two were involved.

ACC: Texas, TT, Baylor, TCU, ISU or KSU, KU then add ND & Houston, Cincy or UCONN
SEC: OU, OSU,ISU or KSU, WVU, & Va. Tech/NC St. combo
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

Your right JR, that's to many for the SEC. Send TT to the PAC in place of Baylor & they could join the G5. That would probably make the PAC & SEC happier anyway.

I sent Nebraska to the SEC to rekindle the rivalry with Oklahoma, I think it would be a great move for them especially with A&M there as well. It would cost the SEC a market but it adds content & rivalries. Missouri to the B1G for the market & for their rivalry with Kansas.

Would look something like this:

SEC
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Oklahoma St, Arkansas

A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida, Georgia, SC, Kentucky

PAC just adds another division.
(11-30-2016 08:19 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

Your right JR, that's to many for the SEC. Send TT to the PAC in place of Baylor & they could join the G5. That would probably make the PAC & SEC happier anyway.

I sent Nebraska to the SEC to rekindle the rivalry with Oklahoma, I think it would be a great move for them especially with A&M there as well. It would cost the SEC a market but it adds content & rivalries. Missouri to the B1G for the market & for their rivalry with Kansas.

Would look something like this:

SEC
Oklahoma, Nebraska, Oklahoma St, Arkansas

A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida, Georgia, SC, Kentucky

PAC just adds another division.

I must say I like that first half division. It would certainly draw eyeballs
(11-30-2016 07:24 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.

If the SEC continues westward expansion, some form of regionalism will be needed to keep travel distances manageable.

I was in Memphis TN for Thanksgiving, I saw that Arkansas was playing in Columbia Mo and thought about making a drive to see the game. Mapquest said I was looking at a 6 and a half hour drive. That seemed a little far so I checked to see how far away the Atlanta was was, which was six hours.

I was thinking if the SEC does expand with OU and OSU, I think regionally the next offer should be sent to Kansas. If KU agrees, I would have OU give Nebraska a call. If the pipe dream of UNL fails, round out with the most valuable option available; probably WVU or ISU.
(11-30-2016 11:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 07:24 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 04:33 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]How about this wild scenario? Missouri to the B1G with Kansas & UConn. Nebraska to the SEC with Oklahoma, Okl St & TT. The B1G & SEC are at 16.

The PAC gets Texas, TCU, Kansas State, Iowa St, Baylor & Houston for 18.

The ACC gets WV & ND for 16.

The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.

If the SEC continues westward expansion, some form of regionalism will be needed to keep travel distances manageable.

I was in Memphis TN for Thanksgiving, I saw that Arkansas was playing in Columbia Mo and thought about making a drive to see the game. Mapquest said I was looking at a 6 and a half hour drive. That seemed a little far so I checked to see how far away the Atlanta was was, which was six hours.

I was thinking if the SEC does expand with OU and OSU, I think regionally the next offer should be sent to Kansas. If KU agrees, I would have OU give Nebraska a call. If the pipe dream of UNL fails, round out with the most valuable option available; probably WVU or ISU.

I'm truly cool with 18 in three divisions of 6 if the networks monetize it.
(11-30-2016 11:55 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 11:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 07:24 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]The SEC - 1 plus 4 = 17

How about you leave Houston out move Texas Tech to the PAC and call it a day?

Besides, Nebraska would be a major outlier for the SEC.

How about Baylor and T.C.U. to the ACC.

Texas, Iowa State Kansas State, and Texas Tech to the PAC.

Kansas and West Virginia to the Big 10.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Or,

We just sit and wait for the GOR to expire and just take who we want.

Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.

If the SEC continues westward expansion, some form of regionalism will be needed to keep travel distances manageable.

I was in Memphis TN for Thanksgiving, I saw that Arkansas was playing in Columbia Mo and thought about making a drive to see the game. Mapquest said I was looking at a 6 and a half hour drive. That seemed a little far so I checked to see how far away the Atlanta was was, which was six hours.

I was thinking if the SEC does expand with OU and OSU, I think regionally the next offer should be sent to Kansas. If KU agrees, I would have OU give Nebraska a call. If the pipe dream of UNL fails, round out with the most valuable option available; probably WVU or ISU.

I'm truly cool with 18 in three divisions of 6 if the networks monetize it.

I would also be fine if divisions where discarded and yearly rivalries were preserved.
(12-01-2016 12:21 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 11:55 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 11:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 07:24 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 05:24 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]Then the SEC picks up someone like Cincy. Or they take ISU which is AAU and geographically with Missouri blends in Nebraska and then the PAC takes BYU as a solution.

But your first idea of replacing Houston with TT would work as well, didn't know if a second Texas school would help the SEC or not and Houston would be a big market for the PAC is the flip side.

If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.

If the SEC continues westward expansion, some form of regionalism will be needed to keep travel distances manageable.

I was in Memphis TN for Thanksgiving, I saw that Arkansas was playing in Columbia Mo and thought about making a drive to see the game. Mapquest said I was looking at a 6 and a half hour drive. That seemed a little far so I checked to see how far away the Atlanta was was, which was six hours.

I was thinking if the SEC does expand with OU and OSU, I think regionally the next offer should be sent to Kansas. If KU agrees, I would have OU give Nebraska a call. If the pipe dream of UNL fails, round out with the most valuable option available; probably WVU or ISU.

I'm truly cool with 18 in three divisions of 6 if the networks monetize it.

I would also be fine if divisions where discarded and yearly rivalries were preserved.

There is a better way. Only your division games count for the conference playoffs. That way you could play a rival from another division but the outcome would have no bearing on the divisional round robin. However overall records within the conference would have a bearing on the At Large selection. The three divisional champs and the best at large comprise the conference playoff schools.
(12-01-2016 12:40 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2016 12:21 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 11:55 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 11:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-30-2016 07:24 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]If the SEC gets Oklahoma it doesn't need a second Texas school as that will give them all they need in DFW to go along with A&M. The SEC would then have significant penetration in to markets of DFW / Houston / San Antonio and even Austin. The biggest problem I see with the concept is too many redundant schools. I figure OSU is the price of OU unless the GOR has expired. I don't think ISU is out of the question. But I don't see KSU with KU. If figure that if the SEC was enticed to take 4 it would be Kansas, I.S.U., Oklahoma and OSU. That adds roughly 10 million viewers, two AAU schools, and basketball.

But you do realize the biggest reason this will likely not happen is that 2, possibly 3, of those schools will not net us the 40 million in value that is needed now to consider an addition.

If the SEC continues westward expansion, some form of regionalism will be needed to keep travel distances manageable.

I was in Memphis TN for Thanksgiving, I saw that Arkansas was playing in Columbia Mo and thought about making a drive to see the game. Mapquest said I was looking at a 6 and a half hour drive. That seemed a little far so I checked to see how far away the Atlanta was was, which was six hours.

I was thinking if the SEC does expand with OU and OSU, I think regionally the next offer should be sent to Kansas. If KU agrees, I would have OU give Nebraska a call. If the pipe dream of UNL fails, round out with the most valuable option available; probably WVU or ISU.

I'm truly cool with 18 in three divisions of 6 if the networks monetize it.

I would also be fine if divisions where discarded and yearly rivalries were preserved.

There is a better way. Only your division games count for the conference playoffs. That way you could play a rival from another division but the outcome would have no bearing on the divisional round robin. However overall records within the conference would have a bearing on the At Large selection. The three divisional champs and the best at large comprise the conference playoff schools.

I think I agree with Mrdccu, just have one divisional standings and lock in 3-4 rivalry games and rotate thru the rest of the league. I think that's better whether its SEC or B1G. If conferences are 16 or even 18 teams might as well go to 10 games.
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma St.
Maybe Kansas

No one else need apply
(12-02-2016 02:29 PM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ]Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma St.
Maybe Kansas

No one else need apply

I think if the SEC expands again, adding four valuable, new regional schools will be our only option.

VT and the ACC properties are out of the question. Adding more fans, brands, and quality matchups will be the priority on the next tv contract. I would first secure the Bedlam series.

Expansion to 18 depends on if Texas joins. If their fans can convince the UTA brass to join rivals Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Arkansas, then number 18 is debatable. If Texas needs Tech to get the political blessings, then so be it. If not, Kansas would be my favorite followed by WVU
(11-30-2016 03:42 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]Outside of FBS as a whole deciding a criteria for teams to meet and going to 72-80 teams, and pooling revenues and negotiating as 1 for all television revenues(which I see as doubtful) I wonder if the best solution is to let the B1G, SEC, ACC & PAC agree to bid/divide up all 10 Big 12 teams in two groups of 5?

I can't see all 4 leagues getting enough value on the teams own merits to make it work so how about 5 & 5 going to two leagues. All Big 12 teams must be taken(maybe the ACC can have ND & WVU so one other non power team like Houston is added to the mix). Then they can add an additional school to have an even number to make it work. Probably every scenario is Texas & OU on opposite sides. I can see where each league could find value on a 5 team package and even two leagues or a 6/4 split or , but most leagues enough at the same time to make it work. Realize it has to be a balanced breakup to make it worth while for two leagues and there will be a school or two a league would not normally take but will have to for the opportunity at the better schools. The 6th school added may be a BYU, Houston, Cincy, or maybe CSU. If the ACC is involved their 6th school is ND. **We could even throw in leagues could do an existing trade of two schools to make a package work of dividing up the current 10. Lots of scenarios below, would any of them make 2 leagues happy enough or actually 3 assuming ACC gets ND.

Its going to take at least 3 conferences to part out the B12. The only way I see the PAC participating is if they can land Texas. The Central Time Zone games just aren't that appealing without landing the biggest brand to anchor. Furthermore, if its a Texahoma package that goes west with OU, OKST and TT who outside of KU would be of interest to the other 3 leagues. And based on the shifting landscape of cable TV, ESPN isn't going to have the cash to pay conferences to pickup the schools left behind.

JR mentioned it elsewhere, but there is a distinct possibility that the window for Texas and OU to move might have closed.
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