And number 11 or 12 leaving it.
(11-01-2016 03:21 PM)RangerRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 02:23 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]And number 11 or 12 leaving it.
Sorry I'll be rooting in person but ND could start their backups and we'd still get beaten soundly. Only a Naama, Knuth or Drew caliber player could keep us in this gane
(11-01-2016 05:06 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 03:21 PM)RangerRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 02:23 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]And number 11 or 12 leaving it.
Sorry I'll be rooting in person but ND could start their backups and we'd still get beaten soundly. Only a Naama, Knuth or Drew caliber player could keep us in this gane
Yep, that's what they said when Ralph Sampson's Virginia team played a little school from Hawaii.
I will be cheering for UT, but think we stand a better chance of our football team beating their football team.
(11-01-2016 05:28 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 05:06 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 03:21 PM)RangerRocket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 02:23 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]And number 11 or 12 leaving it.
Sorry I'll be rooting in person but ND could start their backups and we'd still get beaten soundly. Only a Naama, Knuth or Drew caliber player could keep us in this gane
Yep, that's what they said when Ralph Sampson's Virginia team played a little school from Hawaii.
I admit I thought it was odd that people watching Virginia-Chaminade were talking about a future game between Toledo and Norte Dame's women's basketball teams.
Hopefully Rocket Nation realizes the magnitude of this game and shows up to support. We could make it a competitive game if we have a good home court advantage.
(11-01-2016 08:19 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully Rocket Nation realizes the magnitude of this game and shows up to support. We could make it a competitive game if we have a good home court advantage.
It is certainly pretty special to have the number #1 team showing up for a road game at Savage----hopefully the fans can fill up the arena and Lady Rockets can give them a good game. I remember when #4 Duke played at Savage and left with a defeat; however, in those days I think that there was less disparity in the talent levels between a Toledo type team and a Notre Dame type team than there are these days.
(11-01-2016 09:06 PM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 08:19 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully Rocket Nation realizes the magnitude of this game and shows up to support. We could make it a competitive game if we have a good home court advantage.
It is certainly pretty special to have the number #1 team showing up for a road game at Savage----hopefully the fans can fill up the arena and Lady Rockets can give them a good game. I remember when #4 Duke played at Savage and left with a defeat; however, in those days I think that there was less disparity in the talent levels between a Toledo type team and a Notre Dame type team than there are these days.
I'll never forget when we beat Duke. One of my all-time favorite games I've attended.
Lady Rocket basketball has so much potential. I can't wrap my head around why we can't get over the ultimate hump of going dancing.
(11-01-2016 10:02 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 09:06 PM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 08:19 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully Rocket Nation realizes the magnitude of this game and shows up to support. We could make it a competitive game if we have a good home court advantage.
It is certainly pretty special to have the number #1 team showing up for a road game at Savage----hopefully the fans can fill up the arena and Lady Rockets can give them a good game. I remember when #4 Duke played at Savage and left with a defeat; however, in those days I think that there was less disparity in the talent levels between a Toledo type team and a Notre Dame type team than there are these days.
I'll never forget when we beat Duke. One of my all-time favorite games I've attended.
Lady Rocket basketball has so much potential. I can't wrap my head around why we can't get over the ultimate hump of going dancing.
Coaching and talent. Cullop, though great in many facets as the head of the program, may not be the best X's and O's coach when it matters. Furthermore, her recruiting has been so-so which has led to bad classes, little depth, and very few bonafide stars. I just don't see the program winning the MAC tourney without a 20pt a game, game changing type dynamic player. We had one in Naama and Cullop wasted her 5 years here. (though the WNIT title was nice) And with the current roster I just don't see anyone filling that role unless McIntyre somehow goes ballistic this year. I think we're staring at another 15-18 win season and the drought of no NCAA appearances will continue
Quote: We had one in Naama and Cullop wasted her 5 years here.
Why would you say that? Isn't that kinda harsh?
I don't know why Toledo can't recruit at a level to (somewhat regularly) get to the NCAA's. It would seem we have the facilities. Maybe it is about budget and the ability to pay a better coaches and assistants, I don't know.
The run to the WNIT was a great thing for the university and the city. I would much rather have seen the Rockets do that than see them go to the NCAA's and go out in round 1. Naama wasn't the only star on that team. We had one of the top, if not THE top, 3 point shooter in the country IIRC, and other good players as well. Someone like Naama, man that is a once in a generation type player.
As far as recruiting since then, well, you may have a point. I don't know the answer. Maybe it remains to be seen. But, Coach Cullop brought in that WNIT championship and that was an exciting time.
(BTW, I don't mean to jump on anybody. I just don't understand where you are coming from.)
With the facilities and fan base we have, UT should be the favorite in the MAC every year. Cullop does everything right except recruit.
(11-01-2016 11:10 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote: [ -> ]Quote: We had one in Naama and Cullop wasted her 5 years here.
Why would you say that? Isn't that kinda harsh?
I would say that the program wasted a wonderful opportunity to win a MAC tourney while Naama was here.
For most programs, it is rare to have all the necessary pieces in place to be able to reach the pinnacle of success that winning a championship (the one that counts, i.e., the tournament) represents, so on those occasions when all the elements are in place, it is important that the team take full advantage of their situation and win. There nothing quite so regrettable (and so totally worthless) as unrealized potential.
I felt that the WBB program missed a great opportunity with Naama, the men's program missed a great opportunity with Juice Brown and earlier with Greg Stempin, the 2015 Rockets football team with their best D in more than a decade, and ever to a lesser extent the 2012 footballs rockets.
Rightly or wrongly the ultimate responsibility for a team's success of lack of success rests fairly or unfairly on the shoulders of the head coach, so I can understand someone saying Cullop wasted a golden opportunity (not Naama per se) that Naama's time at UT presented her.
I think it is going to be a fun afternoon when the Irish come to town. Could be close to a full house. I respect Notre Dame for committing to play a home and home series with the Rockets. They have everything to lose and nothing to gain. Looking at this realistically, if they are the number one team in the country, that mean they are better than every team in the country, not just Toledo? Win or lose it will be a huge learning experience for the Rockets and a fun afternoon for all of us.
I am always surprised at the negative comments made about the team and coaches. Unless you have been to some practice, it is impossible to know what this years team is all about. I suggest you accept the offer by the coaching staff, attend practice to see first hand what really goes on before any game is played. I know you would have a better understanding about the team, players, and at the same time see how well coached they really are.
A twenty point a game player can provide a lot of fun moments, but doesn't always lead to winning games. A team made up of players who all contribute will win more games. If you were a coach, which team would you rather defend, a team with five players on the court who can score or a team with one player averaging twenty points a game?
I am more interested in defense, rebounding, passing, shooting free throws, court awareness, and constantly communicating loudly. All of those win games and can be consistent from one game to another. Shooting by any player, at any level, can be great one game and awful the next.
Lets keep a positive attitude and enjoy kids play a GAME to earn a college education. I do enjoy everyone's opinion. Please keep posting!
Irish owe UT for sending the Rockets Gene Cross.
MAC championship opportunity, OK I get that. I don't know what it was about the women's team back in that era. They could have a hot streak, then all of a sudden get drubbed. Very strange. Was it the HC's fault? Maybe. I don't know.
(11-02-2016 02:57 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Irish owe UT for sending the Rockets Gene Cross.
I hadn't thought about that. Great point!!!!!
(11-02-2016 02:57 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]Irish owe UT for sending the Rockets Gene Cross.
Didn't he come from Illinois?
(11-02-2016 07:57 AM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2016 11:10 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote: [ -> ]Quote: We had one in Naama and Cullop wasted her 5 years here.
Why would you say that? Isn't that kinda harsh?
I would say that the program wasted a wonderful opportunity to win a MAC tourney while Naama was here.
For most programs, it is rare to have all the necessary pieces in place to be able to reach the pinnacle of success that winning a championship (the one that counts, i.e., the tournament) represents, so on those occasions when all the elements are in place, it is important that the team take full advantage of their situation and win. There nothing quite so regrettable (and so totally worthless) as unrealized potential.
I felt that the WBB program missed a great opportunity with Naama, the men's program missed a great opportunity with Juice Brown and earlier with Greg Stempin, the 2015 Rockets football team with their best D in more than a decade, and ever to a lesser extent the 2012 footballs rockets.
Rightly or wrongly the ultimate responsibility for a team's success of lack of success rests fairly or unfairly on the shoulders of the head coach, so I can understand someone saying Cullop wasted a golden opportunity (not Naama per se) that Naama's time at UT presented her.
I will take the WNIT victory and the wins. What I think was wasted was any recruiting momemtum gained from that period. We should be swimming in recruits, not losing entire recruiting classes.