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Western Kentucky better be lily-white.

Coach Abortion can't stay clean.

(10-20-2016 09:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ll-program

Really more of a law enforcement problem. Soliciting prostitution is a crime.

(10-20-2016 10:11 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 09:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...ll-program

Really more of a law enforcement problem. Soliciting prostitution is a crime.

Unless I missed it, criminal investigation still ongoing.

"lack of institutional control" and "failure to monitor" is nothing more than the NCAA's way of trying to insert itself into situations where it should have zero authority, and make itself look important.

(10-20-2016 10:36 AM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]"lack of institutional control" and "failure to monitor" is nothing more than the NCAA's way of trying to insert itself into situations where it should have zero authority, and make itself look important.

I'll give the NCAA some credit that there is a need for it. SMU, Penn State, and UNC are places where it really could be applied. The issue for the NCAA is, after SMU, when has the organization ever really justified or clarified its usage of it?

Watching the UL presser now .... Hilarious exchange (all paraphrases, not direct quotes):

Pitino (asked about what he did to punish prospects/players involved): Nothing, because we don't know who the players are.

UL Lawyer: well, er, um, the institution actually does know who the players involved are, but maybe coach doesn't know this specifically.

Pitino: Um, well, yes, in fact I do know those names ....


Also, watching the lawyer lamely dodge the question about whether only "prospects" were involved or were active players also involved. He just kept saying "some were prospects".

Tremendous coordinated effort on stage to make the former Director of Basketball Operations the Scapegoat. "Yes, this happened, and it happened on our campus, in a controlled dorm, ground zero of our institution, BUT Nobody Knew Nothing And Nobody Else Is Responsible!"

And furthermore, coach's failure to know anything IS NOT indicative of a failure to Monitor!

Looks like that 2013 natty is in jeopardy.

(10-20-2016 11:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]Watching the UL presser now .... Hilarious exchange (all paraphrases, not direct quotes):

Pitino (asked about what he did to punish prospects/players involved): Nothing, because we don't know who the players are.

UL Lawyer: well, er, um, the institution actually does know who the players involved are, but maybe coach doesn't know this specifically.

Pitino: Um, well, yes, in fact I do know those names ....


Also, watching the lawyer lamely dodge the question about whether only "prospects" were involved or were active players also involved. He just kept saying "some were prospects".

Tremendous coordinated effort on stage to make the former Director of Basketball Operations the Scapegoat. "Yes, this happened, and it happened on our campus, in a controlled dorm, ground zero of our institution, BUT Nobody Knew Nothing And Nobody Else Is Responsible !!!!"

Looks like that 2013 natty is in jeopardy.

We will find out NEXT YEAR. In the mean time, enjoy your thoughts and obsession about UofL. We are living rent free in your brain. I'll tell you what, we will only start charging you about a $1 a month starting in 2018.

(10-20-2016 11:48 AM)Dasville Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 11:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]Watching the UL presser now .... Hilarious exchange (all paraphrases, not direct quotes):

Pitino (asked about what he did to punish prospects/players involved): Nothing, because we don't know who the players are.

UL Lawyer: well, er, um, the institution actually does know who the players involved are, but maybe coach doesn't know this specifically.

Pitino: Um, well, yes, in fact I do know those names ....


Also, watching the lawyer lamely dodge the question about whether only "prospects" were involved or were active players also involved. He just kept saying "some were prospects".

Tremendous coordinated effort on stage to make the former Director of Basketball Operations the Scapegoat. "Yes, this happened, and it happened on our campus, in a controlled dorm, ground zero of our institution, BUT Nobody Knew Nothing And Nobody Else Is Responsible !!!!"

Looks like that 2013 natty is in jeopardy.

We will find out NEXT YEAR. In the mean time, enjoy your thoughts and obsession about UofL. We are living rent free in your brain. I'll tell you what, we will only start charging you about a $1 a month starting in 2018.

Who said we won't find out next year?

I have no obsession with UL, just enjoying a laugh at the hilarity onstage.

But if it makes you feel better about this scandal to fantasize that critics are 'obsessed', have at it.

(10-20-2016 11:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 11:48 AM)Dasville Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 11:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]Watching the UL presser now .... Hilarious exchange (all paraphrases, not direct quotes):

Pitino (asked about what he did to punish prospects/players involved): Nothing, because we don't know who the players are.

UL Lawyer: well, er, um, the institution actually does know who the players involved are, but maybe coach doesn't know this specifically.

Pitino: Um, well, yes, in fact I do know those names ....


Also, watching the lawyer lamely dodge the question about whether only "prospects" were involved or were active players also involved. He just kept saying "some were prospects".

Tremendous coordinated effort on stage to make the former Director of Basketball Operations the Scapegoat. "Yes, this happened, and it happened on our campus, in a controlled dorm, ground zero of our institution, BUT Nobody Knew Nothing And Nobody Else Is Responsible !!!!"

Looks like that 2013 natty is in jeopardy.

We will find out NEXT YEAR. In the mean time, enjoy your thoughts and obsession about UofL. We are living rent free in your brain. I'll tell you what, we will only start charging you about a $1 a month starting in 2018.

Who said we won't find out next year?

I have no obsession with UL, just enjoying a laugh at the hilarity onstage.

But if it makes you feel better about this scandal to fantasize that critics are 'obsessed', have at it.

Fair enough. You've given your .02 on the matter then?

(10-20-2016 10:36 AM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]"lack of institutional control" and "failure to monitor" is nothing more than the NCAA's way of trying to insert itself into situations where it should have zero authority, and make itself look important.

You forgot to mention "strict liability".

Quo the players that were involved, according to the book, have either graduated or never came to Louisville. A few recruits are still active at Ohio St & LSU for instance. How can Louisville punish them now? IRC, no link between the current players & the "parties" have been made. The names of the kids have been redacted from the public copy to protect them. Furthermore Louisville is still limited to what they can say under NCAA rules. As for point of Pitino contradiction in whether or not he knew who the players are, he only the names of who they asked him about during his interview.

Basically, all this NOA shows, is that the self imposed sanctions will in all likelihood, be all that U of L faces.

-- Nothing new came out today.
-- U of L imposed sanctions based on these circumstances.
-- The NCAA did not charge U of L with Lack of Institutional Control. Or any other institution wide charge.
-- The NCAA's independent lap dog, Chuck Smrt, said vacating wins was NOT self imposed based on the charges the U of L investigation uncovered because these circumstances did not warrant that level of punishment.


The Show Cause tag on Pitino, for the narrow charge of not monitoring Andre McGee enough, will be disputed and fought. The NCAA probably wants to suspend Pitino for a number of games, and they can not do that WITHOUT a Show Cause charge.

In the end, the NCAA may decide that Pitino should sit for a number of games. But that is just window dressing.

This show is over.

(10-20-2016 01:15 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote: [ -> ]Basically, all this NOA shows, is that the self imposed sanctions will in all likelihood, be all that U of L faces.

-- Nothing new came out today.
-- U of L imposed sanctions based on these circumstances.
-- The NCAA did not charge U of L with Lack of Institutional Control. Or any other institution wide charge.
-- The NCAA's independent lap dog, Chuck Smrt, said vacating wins was NOT self imposed based on the charges the U of L investigation uncovered because these circumstances did not warrant that level of punishment.


The Show Cause tag on Pitino, for the narrow charge of not monitoring Andre McGee enough, will be disputed and fought. The NCAA probably wants to suspend Pitino for a number of games, and they can not do that WITHOUT a Show Cause charge.

In the end, the NCAA may decide that Pitino should sit for a number of games. But that is just window dressing.

This show is over.

Spot on with only 2 additions:

1.) Because the ruling won't come down until next year, "the show" regarding wild speculation is not over. Matt Jones and Barr will continue to twerk.

2.) Unless I missed it, the federal/criminal investigation into several characters in this matter has not been concluded. Also several court cases are pending.

Chuck Smrt did his job. The worst is over and not getting the Lack of Institutional Control was huge..at this point fairly confident the "Banner" stays...

The banner was never in doubt. Sorry haters, we good and will keep rollin as usual with wins and trophies

(10-20-2016 01:07 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]Quo the players that were involved, according to the book, have either graduated or never came to Louisville. A few recruits are still active at Ohio St & LSU for instance. How can Louisville punish them now? IRC, no link between the current players & the "parties" have been made. The names of the kids have been redacted from the public copy to protect them. Furthermore Louisville is still limited to what they can say under NCAA rules. As for point of Pitino contradiction in whether or not he knew who the players are, he only the names of who they asked him about during his interview.

Lenville, I never said UL could or should punish them now. I was just laughing at the incongruity of Pitino denying that he failed to monitor his assistants, speaking strong words about how he "over monitors" everyone and every thing in his program, while at the same time claiming institutional ignorance about who the prospects/players were that were involved, only to be corrected by the UL lawyer.

(10-20-2016 03:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 01:07 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]Quo the players that were involved, according to the book, have either graduated or never came to Louisville. A few recruits are still active at Ohio St & LSU for instance. How can Louisville punish them now? IRC, no link between the current players & the "parties" have been made. The names of the kids have been redacted from the public copy to protect them. Furthermore Louisville is still limited to what they can say under NCAA rules. As for point of Pitino contradiction in whether or not he knew who the players are, he only the names of who they asked him about during his interview.

Lenville, I never said UL could or should punish them now. I was just laughing at the incongruity of Pitino denying that he failed to monitor his assistants, speaking strong words about how he "over monitors" everyone and every thing in his program, while at the same time claiming institutional ignorance about who the prospects/players were that were involved, only to be corrected by the UL lawyer.

There is a word for that. It's called lying.

(10-20-2016 08:26 PM)shere khan Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 03:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2016 01:07 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]Quo the players that were involved, according to the book, have either graduated or never came to Louisville. A few recruits are still active at Ohio St & LSU for instance. How can Louisville punish them now? IRC, no link between the current players & the "parties" have been made. The names of the kids have been redacted from the public copy to protect them. Furthermore Louisville is still limited to what they can say under NCAA rules. As for point of Pitino contradiction in whether or not he knew who the players are, he only the names of who they asked him about during his interview.

Lenville, I never said UL could or should punish them now. I was just laughing at the incongruity of Pitino denying that he failed to monitor his assistants, speaking strong words about how he "over monitors" everyone and every thing in his program, while at the same time claiming institutional ignorance about who the prospects/players were that were involved, only to be corrected by the UL lawyer.

There is a word for that. It's called lying.

Unlike Memphis State, we have never had a banner vacated. I know one thing....being in the ACC is a blast