(10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
(10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
(10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, so true. They're trying to make themselves feel better about there screwed up dysfunctional conference. Like FSU would agree to thst.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
(10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
(10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
(10-18-2016 04:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I don't consider Chris Williams anything close to the dude. As a journalist that worked with him and his staff before I consider him very creditable and honest. He never posts anything without doing research on it and he also don't comment on stuff he knows he can't back up.(10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
There is no public release of the contract. Not for Iowa State insiders, West Virginia insiders, or other moronic dudes of any sort. You two cents is based on foolishness.
There are escalators and look-ins. The money goes up every year, like it does for every single similar contract. They all escalate.
(10-18-2016 04:41 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I don't consider Chris Williams anything close to the dude. As a journalist that worked with him and his staff before I consider him very creditable and honest. He never posts anything without doing research on it and he also don't comment on stuff he knows he can't back up.(10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ]In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
There is no public release of the contract. Not for Iowa State insiders, West Virginia insiders, or other moronic dudes of any sort. You two cents is based on foolishness.
There are escalators and look-ins. The money goes up every year, like it does for every single similar contract. They all escalate.
It will be interesting with how cable cutting will affect these conference networks in the future. we will have to see how much the ACC network will provide in three years and see which one of us is right. There could be a big change and there could be a little one. We will see.
(10-18-2016 04:47 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I recommend you look up Chris William before you start slamming him like that. He is a radio host for KNXO, he was a sports reporter for the Des Moines register and Ames Tribune, He is the former publisher for Scout.com Cyclones Report, he is the publisher for Cyclone Fanatic for news board for Iowa State, and he has many podcasts.(10-18-2016 04:41 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:28 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I don't consider Chris Williams anything close to the dude. As a journalist that worked with him and his staff before I consider him very creditable and honest. He never posts anything without doing research on it and he also don't comment on stuff he knows he can't back up.(10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]That's not true. And is completely stupid.I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
There is no public release of the contract. Not for Iowa State insiders, West Virginia insiders, or other moronic dudes of any sort. You two cents is based on foolishness.
There are escalators and look-ins. The money goes up every year, like it does for every single similar contract. They all escalate.
It will be interesting with how cable cutting will affect these conference networks in the future. we will have to see how much the ACC network will provide in three years and see which one of us is right. There could be a big change and there could be a little one. We will see.
Chris Williams, whoever the hell that is, just put himself in the same category as the Dude...who continues to tweet absolutely moronic inventions. A lot of bloggers speculate on zero information and try to pass it off as fact, as he is doing, so he is nothing unique or special, just absolutely pathetic. I'll chalk it up to another in a long line of pathetic attempts to make B12 members feel better about their predicament.
No gamble at all by the ACC. They got the same deal as the SEC. Whether it makes less, the same, or more money is the only question.
No worries. I know that I am right. If it makes you feel better, believe what you will...a lot of people do. FSU and Clemson will be beating down your door in no time.
(10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
(10-18-2016 05:10 PM)adcorbett Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 03:51 PM)john01992 Wrote: [ -> ]So there's this rumor going around that the ACC has a flat payout in there new TV contract. Meaning the rate they are paid stays the same until 2036.
That can't possibly be the case
Right?
In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
The reason such a report is being clowned, is the previous contract, like like every other media contract in sports, already is set to go up every year between now and its original expiration, I believe 2026 or so. As Dasville said, nothing is known about the contract extension numbers, but unless the ACC somehow signed a contract that reduces its current contract payout, every insult levied at the author is warranted and then some. Plus, if such were true, the SAME would be true of the SEC.
(10-18-2016 06:00 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 05:10 PM)adcorbett Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ]In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
The reason such a report is being clowned, is the previous contract, like like every other media contract in sports, already is set to go up every year between now and its original expiration, I believe 2026 or so. As Dasville said, nothing is known about the contract extension numbers, but unless the ACC somehow signed a contract that reduces its current contract payout, every insult levied at the author is warranted and then some. Plus, if such were true, the SAME would be true of the SEC.
why would the same be true for the SEC SEC SEC?.....just because one conference might make a deal that does not mean another would
and there is significant expense to the ACCn that ESPN has to front up and along with that right now ESPN is showing content that would be otherwise shown on ABC, ESPN, ESPN II, The Ocho or ESPNu, but in the future ESPN will not be renewing the deal with Raycom and Fox Regionals so that is another COST to ESPN to incur to bring the network online and run it and have content for it
ESPN could have just as easily have wanted to sign another deal with Raycom and Fox Regionals
the Raycom deal goes through 2027 and is for $50 million a year right to ESPN
so if ESPN is buying that out (no indication they are) that is a major cost and if ESPN signed a deal for 9 years after 2027 with the ACC (which they have) well even if they pay the ACC the same money that is 9 years when ESPN will not have the GUARANTEED income of $50 million a year from Raycom offsetting their payments to the ACC
ESPN traded that surety of income for the CHANCE to make as much or more with that content on an ACC network and the ACC will get a cut of that if it is successful
it is a bit of a stretch to think that ESPN is going to pay the freight to start and run the ACCn, give up $50 million in GUARANTEED income per year for 9 years they could most likely get from Raycom, they are going to split any profits from the ACCn with the ACC AND they are going to just keep escalating their new deal for 10 years past the current deal at the same pace it escalates now
it is called SHARED RISK....ESPN starts getting hit with major expenses in 2019 why would the ACC not share in some of that if they are going to share in the profits
also there is one thing you seem to forget....the SEC SEC SEC provided ESPN with ADDITIONAL content for the SECn that ESPN did not have the rights to and that the SEC SEC SEC teams had been selling themselves previously
in the case of the ACC and the ACCn ESPN will not have any additional content until the Raycom/Fox Regionals deal ends in 2027 unless ESPN pays to buy that out.....which there is no indication has happened
so again ESPN is incurring expenses starting now and even more so in 2019 with out any additional content provided by the ACC and after 2027 there will be additional content, but that is content that ESPN was formerly getting paid for not individual member schools....so that is still an EXPENSE to ESPN not the ACC members
(10-18-2016 06:00 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 05:10 PM)adcorbett Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:16 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ](10-18-2016 04:02 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but looking back at the ESPN contract extension there is nothing about them paying the ACC more money than they are right now. It almost sounds like ESPN is taking the safe option of not giving more money but if the ACC network hits it big than ESPN could be giving more money down the line. The GOR and Network was to make the ACC more stable and not be able to be poached. I'm guessing the ESPN was so eager to sign a network because they wouldn't have to pay more and they would get more ACC content. Just my 2 cents after reading over the ESPN/ACC contract.(10-18-2016 04:00 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ]In July, the ACC recently extended its Grant of Rights through 2036. That is what launched the Big 12’s most recent look at expansion. One thing that doesn’t get reported very often though is that the ACC’s television money is not set to grow from now until 2036. Unlike what the Big 12 currently has, the ACC’s new deal does not escalate by the year, which means that particular league is of the belief that the television industry is going to continue to decline.
It was a gamble by the ACC, who is set to launch its ACC Network with ESPN in 2019.
Only time will tell if they are winners are losers here.
It is known though that for the next eight years at least, the Big 12 will be in front of the ACC when it comes to per school revenue.
When comparing the two leagues though, the question is what happens to the Big 12’s situation after 2024?
The extended Grant of Rights gives the ACC added much-needed security, but not necessarily more money.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/10/willia...anking-on/
That's not true. And is completely stupid.
When you need absolutely baseless, moronic reporting...look to sources from the B12 first.
If you can find me an article that shows the new income the ACC will get from ESPN I would greatly appreciate it.
The reason such a report is being clowned, is the previous contract, like like every other media contract in sports, already is set to go up every year between now and its original expiration, I believe 2026 or so. As Dasville said, nothing is known about the contract extension numbers, but unless the ACC somehow signed a contract that reduces its current contract payout, every insult levied at the author is warranted and then some. Plus, if such were true, the SAME would be true of the SEC.
why would the same be true for the SEC SEC SEC?.....just because one conference might make a deal that does not mean another would
and there is significant expense to the ACCn that ESPN has to front up and along with that right now ESPN is showing content that would be otherwise shown on ABC, ESPN, ESPN II, The Ocho or ESPNu, but in the future ESPN will not be renewing the deal with Raycom and Fox Regionals so that is another COST to ESPN to incur to bring the network online and run it and have content for it
ESPN could have just as easily have wanted to sign another deal with Raycom and Fox Regionals
the Raycom deal goes through 2027 and is for $50 million a year right to ESPN
so if ESPN is buying that out (no indication they are) that is a major cost and if ESPN signed a deal for 9 years after 2027 with the ACC (which they have) well even if they pay the ACC the same money that is 9 years when ESPN will not have the GUARANTEED income of $50 million a year from Raycom offsetting their payments to the ACC
ESPN traded that surety of income for the CHANCE to make as much or more with that content on an ACC network and the ACC will get a cut of that if it is successful
it is a bit of a stretch to think that ESPN is going to pay the freight to start and run the ACCn, give up $50 million in GUARANTEED income per year for 9 years they could most likely get from Raycom, they are going to split any profits from the ACCn with the ACC AND they are going to just keep escalating their new deal for 10 years past the current deal at the same pace it escalates now
it is called SHARED RISK....ESPN starts getting hit with major expenses in 2019 why would the ACC not share in some of that if they are going to share in the profits
also there is one thing you seem to forget....the SEC SEC SEC provided ESPN with ADDITIONAL content for the SECn that ESPN did not have the rights to and that the SEC SEC SEC teams had been selling themselves previously
in the case of the ACC and the ACCn ESPN will not have any additional content until the Raycom/Fox Regionals deal ends in 2027 unless ESPN pays to buy that out.....which there is no indication has happened
so again ESPN is incurring expenses starting now and even more so in 2019 with out any additional content provided by the ACC and after 2027 there will be additional content, but that is content that ESPN was formerly getting paid for not individual member schools....so that is still an EXPENSE to ESPN not the ACC members
(10-18-2016 06:20 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]The only statement made about the amount of the new ACC contract - and it's vague - is that it makes the ACC per team revenue 'very competitive with the Big Ten and the SEC' (or somesuch wording). No public disclosure beyond that - and we are talking about a league that has been able to keep the additions of Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Louisville hush-hush, plus the very announcement of the ACC Network wasn't leaked until a couple of days before it happened... so there is no reason to think that ANY source outside of the conference has reliable information about the payouts at this time. Just my 2 cents.
(10-18-2016 06:20 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]The only statement made about the amount of the new ACC contract - and it's vague - is that it makes the ACC per team revenue 'very competitive with the Big Ten and the SEC' (or somesuch wording). No public disclosure beyond that - and we are talking about a league that has been able to keep the additions of Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Louisville hush-hush, plus the very announcement of the ACC Network wasn't leaked until a couple of days before it happened... so there is no reason to think that ANY source outside of the conference has reliable information about the payouts at this time. Just my 2 cents.
(10-18-2016 04:55 PM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ]I can assure you he has a lot more creditably than twitter "insiders". He doesn't go around a tweet out nonsense.