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These are his comments on a radio show this morning:


“I am grateful that the presidents came to the conclusion that the athletic directors have been saying for a long time. It’s unfortunate that it went through the public process that it did but in the end, I believe we got to the right spot in the road and that’s what is important.”


How did this happen and why?


“Every institution has its own governing process. As a result, some institutions end up being more governed by political boards and regents who are very heavily involved and it’s a topic that clearly has a multitude of opinions from a lot of people who have never been and will never be in an AD’s room or in the locker room. As a result, I think people can kind of swing from the branches if they are not grounded on where they want to go. I think that is my observation. That is kind of what played out here. In the end, the AD’s have been saying this since it all started really about 18 months ago when we ended up not getting a team in the first College Football Playoff. That started a cycle of everyone trying to figure out why and how you could fix that. I am hopeful now that the people who are making the decisions, that has ended. Now people are going to speculate for probably another couple of weeks but then hopefully they are going to move on to other subjects because we have set in stone what we are going to do now.”


“We made good fodder for a lot of people. I understand why people joke about it or are sarcastic about it because I probably would be too if I was on the outside. Because in the end, that’s the hand we were dealt when the president of Oklahoma came out and said what he did, Commissioner Bowlsby was kind of forced into having to go through this process. I think more good probably did come out of the process because of where we are now ending but I don’t fault anybody for making a mockery of the process from the outside because if you were on the outside, that’s what it looked like. There was more strategy to it than most people care to know or understand, but all of that is water over the damn because it is over. We are back to where we should have been from the get-go.”


“I want what is best for Iowa State, which is to be in a Power 5 conference. The best way for Iowa State to be in a Power 5 conference is for the Big 12 to be healthy, strong and fit. When I sit in a room with a group of athletic directors who believe that 10 is the best model, I’m going to go with that 10.”


“When I hear people say Texas and Oklahoma this, I laugh because I’m in the room and that isn’t the case. The Big 12 exists because we have Texas and Oklahoma in the room. If we take Texas and Oklahoma out of the room, we are in the Mountain West Conference and we are going to get $3 million. It would be like somebody saying, ‘We don’t want Georges Niang on our team because he takes too many shots. Okay. We can take Georges Niang off of our team and let’s see how good we would have been the last couple of years. We have two star players whether people want to like that or not – Texas and Oklahoma. I am glad to be on a team that has two great players and we benefit from being on that team. We can go play on a weaker team and be the star but then everybody will be saying, ‘How do you get us in one of those Power 5 conferences Mr. AD?’”


“The Pac-12, I’m not so sure about that one because there is a lot of turmoil in the Pac-12, but hopefully they will renew their contract and then it will be our turn. Where the television industry will be at that time, who knows? What we do know is in the last couple of years, the television industry has completely changed because of the new technology and the cord cutting. Eight years from now I will be 60 and have been at Iowa State for 20 years. Eight years is a friggin’ lifetime.”


“What I do know is that at 10, we give ourselves a lot more flexibility down the road vs. maybe adding members that would only clutter up the process. I have people who say that Texas and Oklahoma are going to bolt, well if Texas and Oklahoma don’t want us to add any members, I guarantee you that if we add members and forced it on them, they would bolt. That’s a part of this process that people aren’t thinking about. Make sure whatever move you make doesn’t change what you can do in the future.”
Iowa St AD to bball players: if you're not Georges Niang, you suck.

What a turd.
What turmoil in the PAC 12 is he referring to?
Good interview there. Definitely gives you a level perspective from the athletic department perspective.
(10-18-2016 11:57 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]What turmoil in the PAC 12 is he referring to?

I am not sure from that, but I was imagining it might have been in regards to their conference network. That part seemed little out of place vs. rest.
(10-18-2016 11:40 AM)CyclonePower Wrote: [ -> ]“When I hear people say Texas and Oklahoma this, I laugh because I’m in the room and that isn’t the case. The Big 12 exists because we have Texas and Oklahoma in the room. If we take Texas and Oklahoma out of the room, we are in the Mountain West Conference and we are going to get $3 million.


“The Pac-12, I’m not so sure about that one because there is a lot of turmoil in the Pac-12, but hopefully they will renew their contract and then it will be our turn.


“What I do know is that at 10, we give ourselves a lot more flexibility down the road vs. maybe adding members that would only clutter up the process. I have people who say that Texas and Oklahoma are going to bolt, well if Texas and Oklahoma don’t want us to add any members, I guarantee you that if we add members and forced it on them, they would bolt. That’s a part of this process that people aren’t thinking about. Make sure whatever move you make doesn’t change what you can do in the future.”

I think the MWC quote is spot on. However, it relates to the second bolded point. If BYU won't go the MWC, and won't accept a $3M TV contract, then why would we go to a Big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma? By not inviting BYU, the remaining 8 basically made sure that BYU will not join. We have higher football attendance than the remaining 8, and would be able to get better football money on our own. No P5 status, no P5 money, no BYU.
What a clown. He would do ISU a favor by just laying low and cashing checks.
(10-18-2016 11:57 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]What turmoil in the PAC 12 is he referring to?

I think he is referring to the PAC 12 network. Kansas state got 3x as much money with their tier 3 rights than Oregon did with the PAC 12 network.
Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!

What an arrogant a__hole. I hope steps down. Doubt that happenes.
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!

What an arrogant a__hole. I hope steps down. Doubt that happenes.

A poor choice of words on his part, but he is closer to the truth than most would like to admit.
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!

What an arrogant a__hole. I hope steps down. Doubt that happenes.

I didn't hear it the same way, but I can see that perspective on it too.

To me though, it sounded like he knew Texas/Oklahoma are very necessary to keep the Big 12 an equal conference to the other 4 and that they should be happy for the current state they are in (a power conference with good revenue and rivalries) rather than blaming about things not being better.
(10-18-2016 12:08 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!

What an arrogant a__hole. I hope steps down. Doubt that happenes.

A poor choice of words on his part, but he is closer to the truth than most would like to admit.

Oh he's completely right, but you can't come out and say that stuff publicly. He's basically just come right out and admit "we are UT and OU's biach and if we aren't we are gonna be the new MWC." Also saying that doesn't exactly convince people that once UT and OU do bolt that there's any reason to join up with you guys. You even admit that without those 2 you are no better than the rest of us so why waste the time and buyout money?
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!
I don't know where you are getting that from. What he's saying is what gives the B12 their power and influence is because Texas and Oklahoma are two of the "big dogs" of college athletics.

You put UT and OU on any conference and the power and influence of the conference skyrockets. Its just a fact.

The B1G minus Ohio State and Michigan suddenly are a very average one (athletically).

The ACC minus Duke/UNC/FSU suddenly aren't too impressive in terms of perception and influence in either of the top two sports.

There's nothing wrong with what he said, he's not saying that the conference is as bad as the MWC is without UT and OU, he's saying that those two elevate the conference up to the level of respect in athletics and influence that the B1G and SEC have. They two of the true blue bloods of college athletics.
(10-18-2016 11:59 AM)ohio1317 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 11:57 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]What turmoil in the PAC 12 is he referring to?

I am not sure from that, but I was imagining it might have been in regards to their conference network. That part seemed little out of place vs. rest.

Doesn't have anything to do with expansion. ADs in particular are not happy with Scott, mostly about the gross mishandling of the relationship with DirecTV, but also because they perceive that he is more interested in photo ops in Asia or Manhattan than in the nuts and bolts of running a conference. Presidents don't seem to be quite as negative about Scott, but there has been speculation that his contract will not be renewed or extended. Wilner has written about it.
Expansion or not, when UT and OU leave the B12 is no longer a power conference. The NCAA giveth and the NCAA taketh away.
Except that P has nothing to do without the NCAA. They only have FBS. P basically is a media term, derived from the payout structure of the CFP.
(10-18-2016 12:20 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 11:59 AM)ohio1317 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 11:57 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]What turmoil in the PAC 12 is he referring to?

I am not sure from that, but I was imagining it might have been in regards to their conference network. That part seemed little out of place vs. rest.

Doesn't have anything to do with expansion. ADs in particular are not happy with Scott, mostly about the gross mishandling of the relationship with DirecTV, but also because they perceive that he is more interested in photo ops in Asia or Manhattan than in the nuts and bolts of running a conference. Presidents don't seem to be quite as negative about Scott, but there has been speculation that his contract will not be renewed or extended. Wilner has written about it.

there were concerns about the Thursday night games and the late start times as well with fans and coaches and there are some coaches that would prefer looking at 8 conference games instead of 9 and scott's answer was basically "tv money content network.....no"

he makes a lot of money too and has a lot of people well paid under him as well

although I don't think things will get aired out as publicly and you are probably right that he will last until the contract ends and then maybe "he will move on"
(10-18-2016 12:08 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!

What an arrogant a__hole. I hope steps down. Doubt that happenes.

A poor choice of words on his part, but he is closer to the truth than most would like to admit.
The truth is the truth. Gotta live in reality. Kudos to him for being honest
(10-18-2016 11:58 AM)ohio1317 Wrote: [ -> ]Good interview there. Definitely gives you a level perspective from the athletic department perspective.

And from Chuck Neinas last summer, there wasn't a single AD who favored expansion. The question was what the presidents were thinking.
(10-18-2016 12:17 PM)AntiG Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-18-2016 12:03 PM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Iowa St AD to every team in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU: guys let's be real, we're all just a bunch of crappy Mountain West programs, and you know how much that crappy league sucks!
I don't know where you are getting that from. What he's saying is what gives the B12 their power and influence is because Texas and Oklahoma are two of the "big dogs" of college athletics.

You put UT and OU on any conference and the power and influence of the conference skyrockets. Its just a fact.

The B1G minus Ohio State and Michigan suddenly are a very average one (athletically).

The ACC minus Duke/UNC/FSU suddenly aren't too impressive in terms of perception and influence in either of the top two sports.

There's nothing wrong with what he said, he's not saying that the conference is as bad as the MWC is without UT and OU, he's saying that those two elevate the conference up to the level of respect in athletics and influence that the B1G and SEC have. They two of the true blue bloods of college athletics.

And more importantly, they are critical to revenue. Take out USC and UCLA out of the Pac, or FSU and Clemson (maybe UNC) out of the ACC, probably 4 in the B1G-Ohio St., Michigan, Penn St. and Nebraska.
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