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With an average of 60%. Rates in that state were raised 17%-40% this past year. If you were paying $400 per month last year, your monthly premium could be near 900 per month next year.

Perhaps a reason MN is starting to slide towards Trump. Unfortunately for Obama and Hillary, some of the really nasty stuff that voters werent supposed to know about until after the election is hitting a bit early.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...es-by-half


(10-03-2016 10:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]With an average of 60%. Rates in that state were raised 17%-40% this past year. If you were paying $400 per month last year, your monthly premium could be near 900 per month next year.

Perhaps a reason MN is starting to slide towards Trump. Unfortunately for Obama and Hillary, some of the really nasty stuff that voters werent supposed to know about until after the election is hitting a bit early.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...es-by-half

MN is super blue, but when the checkbook is hurting Trump might start looking like a decent option. This could be yuge.
(10-04-2016 09:24 AM)Murray007 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-03-2016 10:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]With an average of 60%. Rates in that state were raised 17%-40% this past year. If you were paying $400 per month last year, your monthly premium could be near 900 per month next year.

Perhaps a reason MN is starting to slide towards Trump. Unfortunately for Obama and Hillary, some of the really nasty stuff that voters werent supposed to know about until after the election is hitting a bit early.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...es-by-half

MN is super blue, but when the checkbook is hurting Trump might start looking like a decent option. This could be yuge.

The last poll out of the state showed it a tied race. One could think it was an outlier, except that Hillary is dispatching Bernie to the state this week. She was going as well, until her and Bernie got into a tiff. That seems to make it seem that the poll wasnt that far off from what they were seeing internally.
so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?
(10-04-2016 09:30 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?

The resaon we are where we are at is because the democrats decided not to act like adults and went out on their own on this law. They had every opportunity to write it in a bi-partisan way, but told the republicans to screw off. Literally.

The solution was simple, repeal Obamacare and they have to put something in place. Obama wouldnt allow it.

Replacing the exchanges with single-payer aint going to fly and is a non-starter, which is what the liberals want. Liberals need to grow the f*ck up and realize they created this problem, and the working public is not going to tolerate their fix to their screwed up mess, which is to go uber-stupid with a single payer.

It will not get fixed until Trump is president. It doesnt even matter if the dems win a slight control over the senate, so many of them are up for reelection in tough red states in 2 years that they wouldnt dare try to block the repeal, especially after the nastiness everyone is about to get hit with.
(10-04-2016 09:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]The last poll out of the state showed it a tied race.

Considering that I’ve had conversations where I think I’m the first person they have spoken with that isn’t a registered Democrat and there are probably areas in both Minneapolis and St.Paul where its easier to find a registered Communist than a registered Republican, I'm still firmly of the opinion that this state stays very blue.
I pay $160 a month for health insurance.
Letter to the Editor, in today's Star Tribune (Mpls main newspaper):

Quote:As an initial supporter excited over the possibilities and promise of health care
exchanges, I have no choice after reading Friday’s premium hike news (“Self-insured to
get sharp sting: Health insurers plan to raise rates more than 50%”) but to join the growing
chorus of people who decry the implementation of the exchanges as a total disaster.
The architects of the health care reform legislation and the underlying exchanges need
to intervene in a major way to prevent the system from collapsing.
The biggest disappointment for someone like me, in my 40s with a family, is that the
cost of insuring my family through the individual market is now totally out of reach.
I priced a plan online for my family of five based on current prices, and it was almost
$1,000 for a plan with a $9,400 deductible and a $13,100 out of pocket maximum. And
that is now scheduled to increase at least another 50 percent for 2017, bringing it closer
to $1,500. That is almost as much as my monthly mortgage payment. How do the self employed,
the entrepreneurs and those trying to start a business manage that? For me, it
is the No. 1 barrier for striking out on my own as an entrepreneur, taking a career risk, etc.
And the silver lining, we’re told, is that more people should now qualify for federal
tax credits as a result of the skyrocketing premiums. Seriously? I couldn’t be more disappointed
with how this has played out, both nationally but especially here in Minnesota.
Something has to give. It should now be obvious to all that this is not a sustainable model.

(and no, that wasn't written by me)
(10-04-2016 09:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]I pay $160 a month for health insurance.

how much does your employer pay on your behalf? You have to add those.
Tin foil hat:

- they knew this was going to happen, that it was going to break private health insurance companies to force them to offer individual plans to this pool
- they did it on purpose!
- goal is to push single-payer, after private companies throw their hands up and say "this isn't working!"

COGSCOGSCOGS
Hopefully, Minnesota (as a state) charges in and cuts a deal with the federal government to be allowed to insure ALL state residents who have individual plans on a state program.

It's clear that private companies don't want and can't handle the toxic PR of underwriting this pool of people who aren't "perfect customers": the ones who pay up (via their employers) and make minimal claims.
(10-04-2016 10:10 AM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Tin foil hat:

- they knew this was going to happen, that it was going to break private health insurance companies to force them to offer individual plans to this pool
- they did it on purpose!
- goal is to push single-payer, after private companies throw their hands up and say "this is working!"

COGSCOGSCOGS

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(10-04-2016 09:30 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?
The GOP has presented plenty of options.

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(10-04-2016 09:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]I pay $160 a month for health insurance.
Congrats on your gov't job. What's your deductible? What does it cover?

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(10-04-2016 10:22 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 09:30 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?
The GOP has presented plenty of options.

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you mean Ryan's plan?
(10-04-2016 10:10 AM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Tin foil hat:

- they knew this was going to happen, that it was going to break private health insurance companies to force them to offer individual plans to this pool
- they did it on purpose!
- goal is to push single-payer, after private companies throw their hands up and say "this isn't working!"

COGSCOGSCOGS
It's not a tinfoil hat.

The only problem is of course that all this is unsustainable and will ultimately collapse.
(10-04-2016 10:23 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 10:22 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 09:30 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?
The GOP has presented plenty of options.

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you mean Ryan's plan?
Well, yeah that's one of them.

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(10-04-2016 10:25 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 10:23 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 10:22 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-04-2016 09:30 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]so when will the other side solve this problem with a solution or are we just going to watch rates rise until both sides can act like adults?
The GOP has presented plenty of options.

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you mean Ryan's plan?
Well, yeah that's one of them.

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It's good for bullet points, but there was zero details so one cannot say if its election fodder or something that will actually work.
just get rid of oblundercare, its bleeding the country dry.
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