Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
Not how I read it. I don't think the author was necessarily implying that Liberty would jump to the AAC. He was just saying if the Big 12 expands, the AAC and/or CUSA might be looking for "a team or two," which could create a domino effect that might open a spot in the Sun Belt, for example, although he didn't specifically spell that out. But he left it open enough that I suppose you could translate it either way. I just doubt that was his intention.
(10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
Great minds. You beat me to that thought by a couple of minutes.
I can see the AAC taking a few MWC teams, and in return the MWC takes one of UTEP/Rice/UTSA which leaves a spot for Liberty to join CUSA, but I think ODU has proven you can be a top FCS and really struggle to win in at the FBS level.
I am more interested to see if NDSU ends up making the jump. I think the MWC might give them a shot.
(10-03-2016 07:52 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I can see the AAC taking a few MWC teams, and in return the MWC takes one of UTEP/Rice/UTSA which leaves a spot for Liberty to join CUSA, but I think ODU has proven you can be a top FCS and really struggle to win in at the FBS level.
I am more interested to see if NDSU ends up making the jump. I think the MWC might give them a shot.
I don't see the AAC taking any MWC teams unless there is a big jump in TV rights, but that won't happen for 3 more years.
(10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
That's what killed the Big East; they should have never given a "whenever you're ready" invite to FCS Villanova...
(10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
They are gunning for the SunBelt, but after getting dissed for Coastal Carolina, they are reaching for any available or imaginary FBS lifeline like the CUSA (feasible) and even the AAC (which is ridiculous). I have read a couple of pro Liberty expansion articles and they portray themselves like they are a big time program.
(10-03-2016 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:52 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I can see the AAC taking a few MWC teams, and in return the MWC takes one of UTEP/Rice/UTSA which leaves a spot for Liberty to join CUSA, but I think ODU has proven you can be a top FCS and really struggle to win in at the FBS level.
I am more interested to see if NDSU ends up making the jump. I think the MWC might give them a shot.
I don't see the AAC taking any MWC teams unless there is a big jump in TV rights, but that won't happen for 3 more years.
We do have three more years, but typically negotiations start the year prior. I also wouldnt doubt that if the Big 12 situation is settled, that Aresco tries to convince them to do a new deal early.
ESPN did that for the MAC in order to keep them under contract with no competition.
Houston has a great chance at repeating as an Access Bowl champion. Next year Houston, USF and I think Memphis will all be top 25 and be fighting for the playoff bowl again. Several teams will be strong. During our tv contract period, (assuming Houston wins again this year) we will have 3 BCS/Access bowl wins... and next year well have at least 3 strong teams vying for it again. If we can end up winning 4-5 bowls, well have solidified ourselves as the top G5 without question which will bring money.
A little time will only play in our favor. Here shortly the only G5s in the top 25 poll will be Houston, Boise and then it looks like SDSU and USF will be added. We all know who the top conferences are but the MWC consistantly has the same top teams... the AAC seems to rotate and be stronger overall. In the end, if ESPN wants to form a P6 or a P5 with an "aspiring P6" they will move BYU, Boise and 2 others over to form that conference. My guess would be Air Force and CSU.
(10-03-2016 08:28 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:52 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I can see the AAC taking a few MWC teams, and in return the MWC takes one of UTEP/Rice/UTSA which leaves a spot for Liberty to join CUSA, but I think ODU has proven you can be a top FCS and really struggle to win in at the FBS level.
I am more interested to see if NDSU ends up making the jump. I think the MWC might give them a shot.
I don't see the AAC taking any MWC teams unless there is a big jump in TV rights, but that won't happen for 3 more years.
We do have three more years, but typically negotiations start the year prior. I also wouldnt doubt that if the Big 12 situation is settled, that Aresco tries to convince them to do a new deal early.
ESPN did that for the MAC in order to keep them under contract with no competition.
Houston has a great chance at repeating as an Access Bowl champion. Next year Houston, USF and I think Memphis will all be top 25 and be fighting for the playoff bowl again. Several teams will be strong. During our tv contract period, (assuming Houston wins again this year) we will have 3 BCS/Access bowl wins... and next year well have at least 3 strong teams vying for it again. If we can end up winning 4-5 bowls, well have solidified ourselves as the top G5 without question which will bring money.
A little time will only play in our favor. Here shortly the only G5s in the top 25 poll will be Houston, Boise and then it looks like SDSU and USF will be added. We all know who the top conferences are but the MWC consistantly has the same top teams... the AAC seems to rotate and be stronger overall. In the end, if ESPN wants to form a P6 or a P5 with an "aspiring P6" they will move BYU, Boise and 2 others over to form that conference. My guess would be Air Force and CSU.
I just don't see any early help from ESPN. And I think the AAC is still losing at least 2, if not 4 teams.
(10-03-2016 07:50 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
Great minds. You beat me to that thought by a couple of minutes.
Yup...Liberty knows the pecking order. I don't see the c-usa adding unless they end up with an uneven number of teams. Sunbelt might add just to gain more stability.
(10-03-2016 08:28 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 08:13 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:52 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I can see the AAC taking a few MWC teams, and in return the MWC takes one of UTEP/Rice/UTSA which leaves a spot for Liberty to join CUSA, but I think ODU has proven you can be a top FCS and really struggle to win in at the FBS level.
I am more interested to see if NDSU ends up making the jump. I think the MWC might give them a shot.
I don't see the AAC taking any MWC teams unless there is a big jump in TV rights, but that won't happen for 3 more years.
We do have three more years, but typically negotiations start the year prior. I also wouldnt doubt that if the Big 12 situation is settled, that Aresco tries to convince them to do a new deal early.
ESPN did that for the MAC in order to keep them under contract with no competition.
Competition? Yeah, they gave them 8 times the previous contract, but the previous one only paid out 105,000 per team, which is pathetic; if there really was competition for this contract, they would have gotten a much better deal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...story.html
(10-03-2016 08:43 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:50 AM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
Great minds. You beat me to that thought by a couple of minutes.
Yup...Liberty knows the pecking order. I don't see the c-usa adding unless they end up with an uneven number of teams. Sunbelt might add just to gain more stability.
Pecking order? Didn't CUSA bring up FCS teams; didn't the Big East do the same with Connecticut and try to do the same with FCS Villanova (this is what really killed the Big East)? The truth of the matter is that the SunBelt chose Coastal Carolina over Liberty, so now they are reaching out to the whomever, no matter how farfetched (AAC) or feasible (CUSA) the notion.
(10-03-2016 07:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like they are gunning for the sunbelt. I think the American was mentioned because of the domino effect. The c-usa has been pushed down below the sunbelt. They invited too many FCS teams and "hoped" they would improve.
It looks like the CUSA FCS schools did pretty well yesterday. Improving faster than anyone realistically expected.