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1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

ND gets over $9 million per year for ten years under the Under Armour contract.

http://www.athleticbusiness.com/more-new...story.html

(09-06-2016 07:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

Knowing the deal's detail is only half the battle, and I'll give Texas a sticker next time I see it.

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

They only have the deal values for 67 schools in their database (the 2015 database is here).

But they also have the brand name for 34 more with no dollar value. Most of the ones without dollar values listed are small schools (only 4 are P5 - Arizona State, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Mississippi State).

So all in all, this list isn't complete but it's pretty close.

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

I question this list because I believe Notre Dame has a much bigger deal with Under Armour than SC does and we are 5th.

(09-06-2016 08:04 PM)TerryD Wrote: [ -> ]ND gets over $9 million per year for ten years under the Under Armour contract.

http://www.athleticbusiness.com/more-new...story.html

Ahhh. Should've scrolled down. I'm guessing they aren't included because they are a private school.

Still, interesting to note how high UA schools are on this list.

Does IU still wear these?

It's an imperfect list for sure, but isn't far off. What it tells you is that overall brand recognition is not really skewed more heavily to football than to basketball. There are just as many basketball fans out there. That shouldn't surprise anyone, the NCAA tournament is a massive TV draw, bigger than the bowl games I believe. The reason it is discounted in CR is that the conferences can't sell the rights as the NCAA has monetized the tournament itself. But when looking at overall brand power, don't assume that someone like Boise State has more than UConn or Cincinnati, they definitely do not.

(09-07-2016 11:42 AM)HuskyHawk Wrote: [ -> ]It's an imperfect list for sure, but isn't far off. What it tells you is that overall brand recognition is not really skewed more heavily to football than to basketball. There are just as many basketball fans out there. That shouldn't surprise anyone, the NCAA tournament is a massive TV draw, bigger than the bowl games I believe. The reason it is discounted in CR is that the conferences can't sell the rights as the NCAA has monetized the tournament itself. But when looking at overall brand power, don't assume that someone like Boise State has more than UConn or Cincinnati, they definitely do not.

I think that merch sales are a better indicator, but there's obviously probably a very tight cooralation between these numbers and merch sales.

(09-06-2016 11:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 05:33 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]1. Texas, $12.85 Mil
2. Wisconsin, $11 Mil
3. Michigan, $10.4 Mil
4. UCLA, $8.9 Mil
5. South Carolina, $8.5 Mil
6. Louisville, $6.87 Mil
7. Texas A&M, $6.7 Mil
8. Kansas, $6.65 Mil
9. Ohio State, $6.21 Mil
10. Auburn, $6.2 Mil
11. Indiana, $5.63 Mil
12. Cincinnati, $4.7 Mil
13. Maryland, $4.55 Mil
14. UCONN, $4.48 Mil
15. LSU, $4.3 Mil
16. Florida State, $4.21 Mil
17. Nebraska, $4.19 Mil
18. Illinois, $4 Mil
19. UNC, $3.88 Mil
20. Georgia, $3.81 Mil

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/...j=75682292

Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

Knowing the deal's detail is only half the battle, and I'll give Texas a sticker next time I see it.

how is knowing the details of the deal "only half the battle" and if you wish when you look at the details there is generally a link to the full contract as well so you can read that

Who says basketball has no value?

Kansas, Indiana, Cincy in the top 20.

Actually its hard to make any sense of this list. Why is Illinois in the top 20?

(09-07-2016 04:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 11:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 06:29 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Did you notice that Alabama is not in the lineup? How about Penn State? Tennessee or Florida? USC? Notre Dame? I'm surprised Auburn made it in! There are many schools whose uniforms are so iconic they do not want to mess around with them. Auburn has changed companies and increased the width of the stripe on the pants, worn hideous orange shoes, etc. and that accounts for our 6 million. Changes sell merchandise as nobody wants to really go to the game in dated apparel.

Also, the other major component is, "When did you ink your last deal?"

Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

Knowing the deal's detail is only half the battle, and I'll give Texas a sticker next time I see it.

how is knowing the details of the deal "only half the battle" and if you wish when you look at the details there is generally a link to the full contract as well so you can read that

Valuations are extremely difficult.

(09-07-2016 07:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2016 04:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 11:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:27 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]Without clicking on the link, it looks like this is just public schools, and these deals are notorious for being hard to compare. For instance, the balance between cash and free apparel is different for every school.

Still, it's interesting.

you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

Knowing the deal's detail is only half the battle, and I'll give Texas a sticker next time I see it.

how is knowing the details of the deal "only half the battle" and if you wish when you look at the details there is generally a link to the full contract as well so you can read that

Valuations are extremely difficult.

what is difficult about understanding this if you have even been to a university for a week

University University of Texas
Conference Big 12
Equipment and apparel provider Nike
Total 2016-17 $12,850,000
Equipment and apparel 2016-17 $3,850,000
Cash 2016-17 $9,000,000
Other 2016-17

University's 15-year Nike extension includes $6.5 million in annual cash compensation, an average of $1 million per year from NBA star Kevin Durant or Nike and $1.5 million per year for undefined university initiatives.


University University of Kansas
Conference Big 12
Equipment and apparel provider Adidas
Total 2016-17 $6,650,000
Equipment and apparel 2016-17 $4,800,000
Cash 2016-17 $1,750,000
Other 2016-17 $100,000

Other compensation reflects marketing support given to the university. It includes a mix of merchandise and cash

and if that is not enough you can read the actual contracts

You have to question the database when they have incorrect information.

Since the end of the 2014-15 school year Nike has been the exclusive uniform provider for Clemson. The database still shows Russell Athletic as a uniform supplier when they only supplied baseball uniforms thru the end of the 2014 season.

Clemson is also always going to be behind because we refuse to wear the clown suits that some teams put themselves in just for the almighty dollar. Our uniforms, especially starting this year with the Tiger Paw returning to it's proper location on the shoulders, are essentially the same as they were in the 1970's.

1977


2015


Since the end of the Bowden era Clemson has refused numerous attempts from Nike to put us in "one off" alternate uniforms. The big one was back in 2009 with the Pro Combat deal Nike was running with multiple teams during rivalry week. The initial concept they brought to us was so outlandish and included a change in our helmet so we outright refused. As a result they pulled us from advertising. It was only after they brought forward a much tamer uniform version that did not change our iconic helmet design that we agreed.



Despite the relatively tame design we have never worn those uniforms again. We prefer people when they tune in to know we are playing without having to look at the scoreboard graphic. If it costs us a few jersey sales then so be it.

(09-08-2016 12:31 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2016 07:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2016 04:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 11:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016 07:34 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: [ -> ]you can click on the search and get each school and then click on the school and compare the actual deals

and for the prior comment Texas has not and is not changing their uniform they made that clear for this deal and past deals

Knowing the deal's detail is only half the battle, and I'll give Texas a sticker next time I see it.

how is knowing the details of the deal "only half the battle" and if you wish when you look at the details there is generally a link to the full contract as well so you can read that

Valuations are extremely difficult.

what is difficult about understanding this if you have even been to a university for a week

University University of Texas
Conference Big 12
Equipment and apparel provider Nike
Total 2016-17 $12,850,000
Equipment and apparel 2016-17 $3,850,000
Cash 2016-17 $9,000,000
Other 2016-17

University's 15-year Nike extension includes $6.5 million in annual cash compensation, an average of $1 million per year from NBA star Kevin Durant or Nike and $1.5 million per year for undefined university initiatives.


University University of Kansas
Conference Big 12
Equipment and apparel provider Adidas
Total 2016-17 $6,650,000
Equipment and apparel 2016-17 $4,800,000
Cash 2016-17 $1,750,000
Other 2016-17 $100,000

Other compensation reflects marketing support given to the university. It includes a mix of merchandise and cash

and if that is not enough you can read the actual contracts

"what is difficult about understanding this if you have even been to a university for a week"
Well, for those of us who have spent more than a week at a university, the answer is "the value." They must teach this concept after syllabus week, but valuations are very, very difficult.

What's worth more, $9,000,000 cash or $4,500,000 of cash and $4,500,000 of merch?

The answer is the cash even though they both add up to $9,000,000, because the cash is more liquid, and liquidity has value (see banks/finance industry). The next question is how much more is the cash worth? The answer to that is virtually impossible to answer for sure - at least without hindsight.

Therefore, you can know absolutely every detail about two contracts, but still not know which one is better. Is $9,000,000 cash better than $4,500,000 cash and $5,000,000 merch? Maybe, but maybe not.

(09-07-2016 04:30 PM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]Who says basketball has no value?

Kansas, Indiana, Cincy in the top 20.

Actually its hard to make any sense of this list. Why is Illinois in the top 20?

UCLA, UNC, UConn & Louisville also in the top 20. If anything, this list implies that basketball is more important to branding that football.

Illinois is a traditional basketball power. 5 Final Fours, and they won 4 Big 10 regular season titles from 2001-2005. They've been down in the past decade, but they're still top 20 in attendance even in NIT years. Also they're the biggest draw in a huge basketball-first market (Chicago).

(09-08-2016 12:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]You have to question the database when they have incorrect information.

Since the end of the 2014-15 school year Nike has been the exclusive uniform provider for Clemson. The database still shows Russell Athletic as a uniform supplier when they only supplied baseball uniforms thru the end of the 2014 season.

Clemson is also always going to be behind because we refuse to wear the clown suits that some teams put themselves in just for the almighty dollar. Our uniforms, especially starting this year with the Tiger Paw returning to it's proper location on the shoulders, are essentially the same as they were in the 1970's.

1977


2015


Since the end of the Bowden era Clemson has refused numerous attempts from Nike to put us in "one off" alternate uniforms. The big one was back in 2009 with the Pro Combat deal Nike was running with multiple teams during rivalry week. The initial concept they brought to us was so outlandish and included a change in our helmet so we outright refused. As a result they pulled us from advertising. It was only after they brought forward a much tamer uniform version that did not change our iconic helmet design that we agreed.



Despite the relatively tame design we have never worn those uniforms again. We prefer people when they tune in to know we are playing without having to look at the scoreboard graphic. If it costs us a few jersey sales then so be it.

the new database has the new deal for Clemson

University Clemson University
Conference ACC
Equipment and apparel provider Nike
Total 2016-17 $2,701,500
Equipment and apparel 2016-17 $2,586,500
Cash 2016-17 $115,000
Other 2016-17