(09-10-2016 12:41 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 02:04 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:46 AM)Cowboy95 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:15 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:03 AM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]The arrow is still pointing upward so I'm okay with the team's progress so far. I expect us to finally finish above .500 in the MAC this year. And win all the games against the bad teams in OOC, hopefully beating somebody decent also.
The positive thing right now is that NIU can have a bad OOC schedule and still finish in the top half of Div 1 in terms of SOS. Last year was really astonishing:
NIU OOC SOS Rank: 343
NIU Overall SOS Rank: 162
By just playing in the MAC, NIU improved its SOS by about 180.
And yes I know what the response to this post will be:
" SOS doesn't matter for NIU, its a 1 bid league, yada yada yada"
That stat says one thing. NIU beat up on the Little Sisters of the Poor in OOC and then had to play actual D1 College Teams - not elite or even good teams, just teams that were not made up of mostly intramural quality players. 162 is nothing to be proud of. 343 is downright embarrassing - the right thing to do to build confidence in a young team but embarrassing to the fan base none the less.
All that stat shows is how good the MAC was. It more than partially offset the weak non-conf schedule. What are there, something like 360 Div 1 teams? So 162 overall put them in the top half of Division 1 for SOS. That's not awful. So the way it ended up NIU was in the top half of SOS and still had a 20+ win season.
The MAC was okay but that was a really weak OOC schedule.
It was really weak, but it turned out to not be as big of a deal just because of how strong the MAC was.
(09-10-2016 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:41 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 02:04 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:46 AM)Cowboy95 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:15 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]The positive thing right now is that NIU can have a bad OOC schedule and still finish in the top half of Div 1 in terms of SOS. Last year was really astonishing:
NIU OOC SOS Rank: 343
NIU Overall SOS Rank: 162
By just playing in the MAC, NIU improved its SOS by about 180.
And yes I know what the response to this post will be:
" SOS doesn't matter for NIU, its a 1 bid league, yada yada yada"
That stat says one thing. NIU beat up on the Little Sisters of the Poor in OOC and then had to play actual D1 College Teams - not elite or even good teams, just teams that were not made up of mostly intramural quality players. 162 is nothing to be proud of. 343 is downright embarrassing - the right thing to do to build confidence in a young team but embarrassing to the fan base none the less.
All that stat shows is how good the MAC was. It more than partially offset the weak non-conf schedule. What are there, something like 360 Div 1 teams? So 162 overall put them in the top half of Division 1 for SOS. That's not awful. So the way it ended up NIU was in the top half of SOS and still had a 20+ win season.
The MAC was okay but that was a really weak OOC schedule.
It was really weak, but it turned out to not be as big of a deal just because of how strong the MAC was.
One bid league. The MAC sucks dude
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(09-10-2016 12:47 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:41 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 02:04 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 01:46 AM)Cowboy95 Wrote: [ -> ]That stat says one thing. NIU beat up on the Little Sisters of the Poor in OOC and then had to play actual D1 College Teams - not elite or even good teams, just teams that were not made up of mostly intramural quality players. 162 is nothing to be proud of. 343 is downright embarrassing - the right thing to do to build confidence in a young team but embarrassing to the fan base none the less.
All that stat shows is how good the MAC was. It more than partially offset the weak non-conf schedule. What are there, something like 360 Div 1 teams? So 162 overall put them in the top half of Division 1 for SOS. That's not awful. So the way it ended up NIU was in the top half of SOS and still had a 20+ win season.
The MAC was okay but that was a really weak OOC schedule.
It was really weak, but it turned out to not be as big of a deal just because of how strong the MAC was.
One bid league. The MAC sucks dude
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You can say that all you want but facts are facts
(09-10-2016 12:48 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:47 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:41 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 02:04 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]All that stat shows is how good the MAC was. It more than partially offset the weak non-conf schedule. What are there, something like 360 Div 1 teams? So 162 overall put them in the top half of Division 1 for SOS. That's not awful. So the way it ended up NIU was in the top half of SOS and still had a 20+ win season.
The MAC was okay but that was a really weak OOC schedule.
It was really weak, but it turned out to not be as big of a deal just because of how strong the MAC was.
One bid league. The MAC sucks dude
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You can say that all you want but facts are facts
You're right.Fact is the MAC sucks and gets no national respect
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(09-10-2016 12:49 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:48 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:47 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-10-2016 12:41 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]The MAC was okay but that was a really weak OOC schedule.
It was really weak, but it turned out to not be as big of a deal just because of how strong the MAC was.
One bid league. The MAC sucks dude
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You can say that all you want but facts are facts
You're right.Fact is the MAC sucks and gets no national respect
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But really who cares about that. NIU was 10-2 in 2003 and didn't get to a bowl but we knew NIU was better than most of the teams that played in a bowl. The bias and human factor is out of ones control. All you can control is performance
In all seriousness, will NIU release a basketball schedule this year?
(09-11-2016 02:47 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]In all seriousness, will NIU release a basketball schedule this year?
Maybe they're waiting for all the joy and excitement over the USF game to die down before releasing the schedule.