...now that our local boards have mostly evacuated to this bbs' option....
just wanted to say that game threads still belong on this one!!!!
it's much more funnerererererer when the 'gangs' all get together...
to all anticipating the verve going into this season!
Hit the hooch earlier than normal?
Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
This.
Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.
The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.
There's your answer, Mr. Stink.
I guess it's just not the same when you no longer get to hang with the cool kids.
It's going to be another solid season for Southern. I'm looking forward to tailgating the Savannah St. game.
For me CUSA lost a lot of its mojo when we lost the Liberty Bowl on a yearly basis and then for good. It wasn't the biggest or best bowl out there but it was the most prestigious G5 vs G5 bowl game at the time. Champ vs Champ from 2 of the best G5 conferences. Always got excited about the Liberty Bowl whether Southern Miss was in it or not. It was bragging rights.
(08-22-2016 06:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]There's your answer, Mr. Stink.
I guess it's just not the same when you no longer get to hang with the cool kids.
Your statements shows the gap between the old school CUSA and the new kids on the block.
CUSA was once respected. We were one of the best. Now we are one of the worse with half the teams ranking somewhere between 100 and 128.
Maybe this conference gets better, I hope it does. Until then, longing for the good or days is expected.
(08-22-2016 07:27 AM)GoBigGold Wrote: [ -> ] (08-22-2016 06:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: [ -> ]There's your answer, Mr. Stink.
I guess it's just not the same when you no longer get to hang with the cool kids.
Your statements shows the gap between the old school CUSA and the new kids on the block.
CUSA was once respected. We were one of the best. Now we are one of the worse with half the teams ranking somewhere between 100 and 128.
Maybe this conference gets better, I hope it does. Until then, longing for the good or days is expected.
I'm all for pride in past achievements. It is the foundation of tradition, and a big part of why schools invest in athletics in the first place.
But if longing for tradition gets to the point of displacing current fan interest (as, for example, stinkfist's concerns for the fall off in active USM posters on this board), then there may just be a reason you are stuck with the nose-picking youngsters.
I very much hope that ODU one day can earn even a fraction of the success of USM. Kind of like a younger brother hoping to live up the to standards of an older brother.
And, like you, I also hope that this conference can one day again rise to the top of the G-5 echelon. Getting there will be more likely with the full engagement of the USM, Marshall and other established fan bases.
(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
This.
Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.
The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.
Gosh!
You mean it doesn't excite you to be in a conference with a Team that beat you in a bowl game in your Back Yard, down in New Orleans? And, being in one that is going to beat you in the 2016 CUSA Championship this year? And, being in a conference with a school that is about to become the dominant Athletic Program in the Conference? Hell, even your President is a graduate of Middle Tennessee (both B.S. and M.S.)? Geez, our feelings are really hurt
that you are not excited about the current conference.
(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
I don't care who we play I'm excited. Though I do despise 1-AA games so adding ODU, UTSA, & new program Charlotte really took time for me to get her but I'm over it now. I personally hated USM moving to the West than anything. Screw those schools that left.
(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
This.
Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.
The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.
The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.
(08-22-2016 07:17 AM)GoBigGold Wrote: [ -> ]For me CUSA lost a lot of its mojo when we lost the Liberty Bowl on a yearly basis and then for good. It wasn't the biggest or best bowl out there but it was the most prestigious G5 vs G5 bowl game at the time. Champ vs Champ from 2 of the best G5 conferences. Always got excited about the Liberty Bowl whether Southern Miss was in it or not. It was bragging rights.
Loved it! When we were in the MAC I remember how jealous I was over your bowl situation with your champ as we were going to the Motor City Bowl every damn year.
Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....
not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"
Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...
Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.
If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.
Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....
if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".
CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.
So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"
Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...
you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.
The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.
(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.
This.
Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.
The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.
I get the negative of watching your rivals leaving for greener pastures. Heck, we watched the original Sun Belt schools leave us in the early Nineties. However, I do think there is a danger in looking in the rear view mirror. Nothing can change what's been done. I'm very thankful WKU has an administration who's looking at the big picture of this age of conference reshuffling. It's becoming more of a matter of self preservation with all G5 schools that you position yourself - should the call come
(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....
not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"
Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...
Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.
If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.
Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....
if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".
CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.
So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"
Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...
you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.
The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.
ECU had 7 winning seasons,do not know where you get your stats from.CUSA and Mwc were consistently considered the best non BCS conferences.
(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....
not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"
Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...
Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.
If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.
Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....
if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".
CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.
So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"
Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...
you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.
The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.
Hey I said all along the ONLY school that "deserved" a bump up to the Big East (not the Merica LOL) was Memphis based on their basketball program. When it wasn't cheating of course. ECU loved t act dominant but even in the years they won it was by slim margins and they essentiall needed teams to lose. Houston was never anything magical. Hell it took them a QB break in every NCAAA record to be relevant and even the USM spanked that ass in the championship. I think as you said people like to look back on how it was. Hell I still enjoy looking back on our MAC days but I was a student then so that plays into that nostalgia. I'm looking forward to years ahead and while I enjoy looking back I don't consider any of us "left behind" because we have the exact same access to the college playoff as any other conference that isn't a "power" LOL 5.
(08-22-2016 08:52 AM)baruna falls Wrote: [ -> ] (08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....
not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"
Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...
Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.
If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.
Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".
Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....
if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".
CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.
So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"
Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...
you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.
The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.
ECU had 7 winning seasons,do not know where you get your stats from.CUSA and Mwc were consistently considered the best non BCS conferences.
Not before UofL, Cincy and TCU left....
counting Independent
2015... 12 of 12
2014.... 8 of 12
2013.... 9 of 11
2012 ...11 of 12
2011....10 of 12
2010....10 of 12
2009....10 of 12
2008....9 of 12
2007....10 of 12
2006....9 of 12
2005....9 of 12
2004....9 of 12
2003....9 of 12
2002....9 of 12
I have posted less on this board recently because I have been posting on the new USM board on this site to help it get going. It has absolutely nothing to do with any nonsense about the teams that left. When the season starts I will be back here more. Been posting here since 2003 and have no plans to stop posting here.
(08-22-2016 08:45 AM)doughtyrowdy Wrote: [ -> ]I get the negative of watching your rivals leaving for greener pastures. Heck, we watched the original Sun Belt schools leave us in the early Nineties. However, I do think there is a danger in looking in the rear view mirror. Nothing can change what's been done. I'm very thankful WKU has an administration who's looking at the big picture of this age of conference reshuffling. It's becoming more of a matter of self preservation with all G5 schools that you position yourself - should the call come
That's something that USM fans are good at. "Living in the past." Especially "older" USM fans that have seen the memorable games/moments USM had.
You have to understand. USM went from being in a conference with Florida St. and Virginia Tech (Metro), to a conference with Cincy, Louisville, ECU, TCU, Tulane (who outside of 1998 hasn't had a good team), Houston, Memphis (original C-USA), to a conference with UCF, Tulsa, SMU (C-USA 2.0) to a conference with schools that weren't even playing football when USM was winning C-USA.
Not trying to disparage the new members, most of these schools have a lot to bring to the table, on multiple levels. It's just hard for SOME USM fans to move on, because in our case these teams didn't get to where they are now because of on-the-field success in football....If that were the case, USM would have been in a "P5" conference the first time around. Almost certain, outside of Tulsa? maybe, that USM has a winning record vs. every C-USA school that has moved on.
Why we haven't gotten to a "bigger" conference? Well, that's a story for another day, and it's not as simple as TV market.