Anytime it gets a little heated on these boards, or JMU fandom becomes overly frustrated or negative about the speed at which JMU's varsity athletic programs are advancing, I just visit GoHens.net for a good laugh. It helps clear the air and put everything into perspective. The most recent highlight on GoHens is JMU's signing of an SEC transfer QB, and how it has sparked a round of tail-chasing by blue chicken fans about their miserable prospects. My how the mighty have fallen.
LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
(06-29-2016 05:12 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
There are many similarities, but with a crumbling FB stadium and a HC who is on the hot seat, a MBB team that's been decimated by transfers and recruiting failures, I'd hate to be a blue chicken fan heading into the Fall season right now.
(06-29-2016 09:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 05:12 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
There are many similarities, but with a crumbling FB stadium and a HC who is on the hot seat, a MBB team that's been decimated by transfers and recruiting failures, I'd hate to be a blue chicken fan heading into the Fall season right now.
JMU--great stadium and promising football coach
But UD and JMU are still passengers on the short bus--FCS
UD is a lot like us, stuck in the FCS wasteland. The only thing they have going for them is a new AD and a President. Hopefully they keep Brock around for a while, he's running that football program into the ground haha.
As Peter Tosh sang, "If you live in a glass house don't trow stones"
(06-30-2016 07:04 AM)JMU83 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 09:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 05:12 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
There are many similarities, but with a crumbling FB stadium and a HC who is on the hot seat, a MBB team that's been decimated by transfers and recruiting failures, I'd hate to be a blue chicken fan heading into the Fall season right now.
JMU--great stadium and promising football coach
But UD and JMU are still passengers on the short bus--FCS
Maybe Delaware can continue being our friend and become a member of JMU's imaginary athletic conference.
I actually go to both your board and theirs for a laugh. At least your board tends to have better info.......GoHens is just so sad.
(07-03-2016 10:17 AM)mainejeff Wrote: [ -> ]I actually go to both your board and theirs for a laugh. At least your board tends to have better info.......GoHens is just so sad.
You have to go somewhere since you seem to be the full extent of the Maine black bear online presence.
(06-29-2016 09:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 05:12 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
There are many similarities, but with a crumbling FB stadium and a HC who is on the hot seat, a MBB team that's been decimated by transfers and recruiting failures, I'd hate to be a blue chicken fan heading into the Fall season right now.
UD Stadium is crumbling now? Didn't seem like it to me last season. It's still the best stadium in the CAA as far as sight lines go and such. Just a good viewing experience. All the seats are very close to the field. Bridgeforth is obviously better on one side but there's really not a bad seat in their stadium. We still have a side where we covered over a track and the stands are forever from the field.
(07-03-2016 11:03 AM)Dukes2Space Wrote: [ -> ][quote='Longhorn' pid='13360663' dateline='1467254082']
UD Stadium is crumbling now? Didn't seem like it to me last season. It's still the best stadium in the CAA as far as sight lines go and such.
To be honest, that isn't saying much when you have stadiums like Villanova, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, etc to compare to. I've been there many times and that place is in desperate need for an upgrade. Yes, sight lines are good, but there are much bigger issues they need to address.
I used to say that they need more seating, but they are doing a good job taking care of that on their own.
(07-03-2016 11:03 AM)Dukes2Space Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 09:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (06-29-2016 05:12 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]LH - I did take a look at GoHens.net
Below is the first post under UD Athletic Dept.
Survey - check
Frustrated - check
Lack of Plan - check
Lack of Strategy - check
Hesitant to donate - check
Lack of vision - check
I thought I was back on this board. UD and JMU really are two peas in a pod!
"I received a call today from a very nice woman from the UD Athletic Department. She was asking for my feedback in follow-up to the survey I completed (as others did on this site) a few months ago. It was a nice touch to proactively reach out. I explained that I thought the fan base was generally frustrated by the University’s lack of plan and strategy for UD athletics. And that most fans/alum are hesitant to donate more/anything to athletics given the general lack of vision."
There are many similarities, but with a crumbling FB stadium and a HC who is on the hot seat, a MBB team that's been decimated by transfers and recruiting failures, I'd hate to be a blue chicken fan heading into the Fall season right now.
UD Stadium is crumbling now? Didn't seem like it to me last season. It's still the best stadium in the CAA as far as sight lines go and such. Just a good viewing experience. All the seats are very close to the field. Bridgeforth is obviously better on one side but there's really not a bad seat in their stadium. We still have a side where we covered over a track and the stands are forever from the field.
You're entitled to your opinion, as we all are, but from my point of view their stadium is an antique High School "grand stand" and pile of junk, unsafe and crowded with poor fan amenities, locker rooms and pressbox. The sight lines you ballyhoo are nothing to write home about. In essence, there is not a single redeeming feature about that stadium. I'd almost feel sorry for UD FB fans, old and dying off by the droves that they are, particularly because there's no reasonable hope on the horizon that they'll ever build or redress their FB facilities in the foreseeable future.
I'm not sure if you've ever been there but the sightlines in their stands couldn't possibly be better. The stands are as close to the field as can be and steep. It's not really rocket science. I'm not sure how you can do any better than that. What's unsafe? People are getting a little carried away about the fact that we've upgraded our stadium and UD hasn't. The stadium is fine and in the top of FCS. There's really nothing wrong with it from what I can see. I know they released some ridiculous cartoon-like renderings of upgrades a few years ago but if they're not going anywhere those are a joke and if they are, they'll tear those up and go with something more realistic.
(07-03-2016 01:34 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure if you've ever been there but the sightlines in their stands couldn't possibly be better. The stands are as close to the field as can be and steep. It's not really rocket science. I'm not sure how you can do any better than that. What's unsafe? People are getting a little carried away about the fact that we've upgraded our stadium and UD hasn't. The stadium is fine and in the top of FCS. There's really nothing wrong with it from what I can see. I know they released some ridiculous cartoon-like renderings of upgrades a few years ago but if they're not going anywhere those are a joke and if they are, they'll tear those up and go with something more realistic.
UD needs to tear their FB "stands" (I refuse to even call it a stadium) down and start completely over. For starters, UD's FB stadium would never pass even a cursory ADA check, and your standards for what makes for a top FCS stadium needs an update for currency. UD has been left in the dust by a host of other schools, so its not just getting "carried away" with JMU's upgrades that make it so. "Big" old, steep and close to the field doesn't cut it these days.
If UD has no real plans for a conference membership change, why put money into a stadium? Whatever they have is good enough for FCS/CAA. That is not a shot at the FCS or the CAA, it just observing the truth.
Proof is in the pudding, is the CAA coercing Delaware to make stadium renovations? Not even close, DE facilities are probably top half of the conference while falling apart? and with a piss wall for a latrine.
Not every school, only one school is going to spend $250M on athletic facilities to remain in a weakened conference.
We need to be careful about how we judge DE, not long ago, we had posters claiming out fate was the same as DE's.
(07-03-2016 02:11 PM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ] (07-03-2016 01:34 PM)Dukes2Space Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure if you've ever been there but the sightlines in their stands couldn't possibly be better. The stands are as close to the field as can be and steep. It's not really rocket science. I'm not sure how you can do any better than that. What's unsafe? People are getting a little carried away about the fact that we've upgraded our stadium and UD hasn't. The stadium is fine and in the top of FCS. There's really nothing wrong with it from what I can see. I know they released some ridiculous cartoon-like renderings of upgrades a few years ago but if they're not going anywhere those are a joke and if they are, they'll tear those up and go with something more realistic.
UD needs to tear their FB "stands" (I refuse to even call it a stadium) down and start completely over. For starters, UD's FB stadium would never pass even a cursory ADA check, and your standards for what makes for a top FCS stadium needs an update for currency. UD has been left in the dust by a host of other schools, so its not just getting "carried away" with JMU's upgrades that make it so. "Big" old, steep and close to the field doesn't cut it these days.
Actually, it does. And, if you're referring to suites (which we can't sell with our schedule) they have them. They're at the top of the Bob Carpenter Center in the end zone. The view isn't the greatest but all of the amenities are there and more for FCS. They have plenty of ADA seating at great vantage points. You really need to get in your car and drive out of Harrisonburg once in a lifetime.
I don't claim to know for what Delaware is preparing, if anything. Based on the Delaware fans posting on GoHens, Delaware is not transparent with athletic strategy IF Delaware has an athletic strategy.
I have seen posts about DE football attendance on the decline which, when paired with a lack of transparency while the CAA has declined is believable.
Boune and DE's new AD are probably on a strategy phone call together as I we speculate!!!!
(07-03-2016 04:00 PM)Purplehazed Wrote: [ -> ]If UD has no real plans for a conference membership change, why put money into a stadium? Whatever they have is good enough for FCS/CAA. That is not a shot at the FCS or the CAA, it just observing the truth.
Proof is in the pudding, is the CAA coercing Delaware to make stadium renovations? Not even close, DE facilities are probably top half of the conference while falling apart? and with a piss wall for a latrine.
Not every school, only one school is going to spend $250M on athletic facilities to remain in a weakened conference.
We need to be careful about how we judge DE, not long ago, we had posters claiming out fate was the same as DE's.
Sorry, no mercy when it comes to UD. They've made their bed, and JMU is not linked any way with their fate, whatever that may be. Even FCS schools like Prairie View A&M (a school that is a perennial loser) is investing in decent facilities.
The UD FB situation is particularly frustrating because once-upon-a-time they had all the advantages, and have a billion dollar endowment at their disposal, but their administration decided to coast when it came to their athletic future. For all the complaints on here by about JMU's decision making process the investment in facilities has positioned JMU well for the future, oh, and UD has yet to announce anything regarding COA.
"their administration decided to coast"
We may have nice facilities but the jury is still out on whether or not JMU has a $250M house in a $20M neighborhood.
All I am sayin', Karma, ying & yang, what comes around goes around, whatever you call it can be a *****.
When JMU did the Bridgeforth expansion, I thought they were going with the Field of Dreams mentality of "If you build it, they will come". 'They' meaning FBS conference invites. They didn't. Probably an informal one from the Sun Belt and JMU repeatedly quickly looked the other way on that. To this day I don't know if they're still thinking they're gonna go home with the hottest girl at the party or what.