While no one is going to take out the grid with a EMP... The solar flare is pretty nasty, especially since its happened before back in the 1850's.
Luckily, solar flares take about 24 or so hours to reach earth, and we can detect them as soon as they happen. But is 24 hours enough to shut the grid down in order to have the best chance of survival?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/2...ecade.html
Not saying you should build a bunker. But it may be wise to have food and water stored up just in case.
Anyone who doesn't have 3-5 days of food and water at minimum on hand is doing themselves a disservice. Not saying go all SHTF internet whacko but just look at it as having a spare tire in your trunk in case of a flat. And you know you will get a flat at some point.
Be it from natural or manmade emergency, its just not that bright to keep thinking that food keeps comes from the grocery store, heat comes from the furnace, and electric comes from an outlet.
As far as an big arse EMP, if a big one hits, the country will be thrown back into the 1600's as far as technology, transportation, and farming goes. If it has electronic components in it they are fried. At that point, 90% of us are toast anyways.
(06-27-2016 01:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone who doesn't have 3-5 days of food and water at minimum on hand is doing themselves a disservice. Not saying go all SHTF internet whacko but just look at it as having a spare tire in your trunk in case of a flat. And you know you will get a flat at some point.
Be it from natural or manmade emergency, its just not that bright to keep thinking that food keeps comes from the grocery store, heat comes from the furnace, and electric comes from an outlet.
As far as an big arse EMP, if a big one hits, the country will be thrown back into the 1600's as far as technology, transportation, and farming goes. If it has electronic components in it they are fried. At that point, 90% of us are toast anyways.
Yup. We keep a disaster kit handy largely because last time we had a hurricane 'scare' I had to go out and buy stuff like water and food and batteries and extra gas at same time everybody else was doing same. No more of that.
You mean no cellphones? YEA!
A week of supplies should be a minimum....
We have raw ingredients and I have a wood stove / half a cord of wood on my property at all times. The one thing I don't have, which I have considered recently, is some kind of fire arm in my house.
Not for "mad max" apocalypse shaq but for "New Orleans type governmental emergency fail"
If anyone has noticed, FEMA has been running public service ads and billboards more and more frequently over the past 2 years about families preparing for something bad. Its subtle and in the background but its there more than ever. They are not just doing that for hurricane season, either.
If the grid goes down on a large scale, urban centers would be a killing field just 3-4 days in. For those so inclined, and not just because of politics, its never a bad idea to store a little ammo up as well as a supply of food, water and meds to get through a couple of bad weeks if needed. Sounds ugly, but folks that actually set aside an emergency supply to get through a couple weeks if needed will very quickly become targets.
I'm a farm kid living on a couple hundred acres of waterfront. I'll be good.
(06-27-2016 01:22 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]A week of supplies should be a minimum....
We have raw ingredients and I have a wood stove / half a cord of wood on my property at all times. The one thing I don't have, which I have considered recently, is some kind of fire arm in my house.
Not for "mad max" apocalypse shaq but for "New Orleans type governmental emergency fail"
We also have a wood stove, way down here in the land of cotton. Wife will go through a good half cord of wood every winter. Keeps the electric bill from Ga. Power down.
If you're up in rural Minnesota would think you wouldn't have much to worry about from a governmental emergency fail along lines of NOLA.
Seeds and ammunition, ammunition and seeds, that's all you need.
(well, and I suppose a firearm as well but that didn't rhyme.)
(06-27-2016 01:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone has noticed, FEMA has been running public service ads and billboards more and more frequently over the past 2 years about families preparing for something bad. Its subtle and in the background but its there more than ever. They are not just doing that for hurricane season, either.
If the grid goes down on a large scale, urban centers would be a killing field just 3-4 days in. For those so inclined, and not just because of politics, its never a bad idea to store a little ammo up as well as a supply of food, water and meds to get through a couple of bad weeks if needed. Sounds ugly, but folks that actually set aside an emergency supply to get through a couple weeks if needed will very quickly become targets.
Good lord.
I've covered hurricane season for years and every year GEMA pitches the same message. Be responsible, have a kit and if someone calls for an evacuation, evacuate. Don't stick around and make someone in public safety have to risk their life to cover your ass.
But I agree if things went sideways during a hurricane around Savannah, it could get ugly fast. There's a lot of poverty around here.
The only upside to a hurricane here is maybe it would blow some damn yankees back up north.
(06-27-2016 01:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone has noticed, FEMA has been running public service ads and billboards more and more frequently over the past 2 years about families preparing for something bad. Its subtle and in the background but its there more than ever. They are not just doing that for hurricane season, either.
If the grid goes down on a large scale, urban centers would be a killing field just 3-4 days in. For those so inclined, and not just because of politics, its never a bad idea to store a little ammo up as well as a supply of food, water and meds to get through a couple of bad weeks if needed. Sounds ugly, but folks that actually set aside an emergency supply to get through a few weeks if needed will very quickly become targets.
This would be my biggest worry about the whole thing. I live about 30mins outside of Memphis on some acreage. I would be fine for at least a few weeks (maybe longer if my garden is ready to be picked). But eventually folks in the city will start to wander out of the city looking for food/water.
(06-27-2016 01:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]If anyone has noticed, FEMA has been running public service ads and billboards more and more frequently over the past 2 years about families preparing for something bad. Its subtle and in the background but its there more than ever. They are not just doing that for hurricane season, either.
If the grid goes down on a large scale, urban centers would be a killing field just 3-4 days in. For those so inclined, and not just because of politics, its never a bad idea to store a little ammo up as well as a supply of food, water and meds to get through a couple of bad weeks if needed. Sounds ugly, but folks that actually set aside an emergency supply to get through a couple weeks if needed will very quickly become targets.
Those hurricane ones are stupid. How the **** do you not know that 'the day before is the day before' when there is 24/7 new coverage and the damn thing moves as slow as it does?
Gays will start eating each other. Oh, that's happening already?
(06-27-2016 01:42 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]I've got my guns.
Yeah, they go good with a little catsup.
(06-27-2016 01:27 PM)gsu95 Wrote: [ -> ]If you're up in rural Minnesota would think you wouldn't have much to worry about from a governmental emergency fail along lines of NOLA.
It only takes the one time it happens. We could, in theory, get snowed/frozen in for a few days here. Especially in the outer burbs where services are a slight bit slower.
What's funny is my wife just did some reading on a rabbit co-op up here. Folks raise rabbits for food and supposedly it's far easier than most forms of self-sustainability.
I mean we are nowhere near a place to try it but I find it interesting that with about an eighth of an acre you can *basically* feed yourself.
The "co-op" part is with people providing farmers the 'leavings' which make for good fertilizer and also selling the pelts. A Rabit, they say, will provide a family of four with two meals worth of meat.
(06-27-2016 01:45 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ] (06-27-2016 01:42 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]I've got my guns.
Yeah, they go good with a little catsup.
My Cat kills at least two wild rabbits a week and I live next to a large regional park where they deer hunt in the fall. Push came to shove a gun might help with a meal or two.
(06-27-2016 01:27 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]Seeds and ammunition, ammunition and seeds, that's all you need.
(well, and I suppose a firearm as well but that didn't rhyme.)
and with this (how do you write the sound of a gun?) i shall feed. oh and weed. need lots of weed
(06-27-2016 01:27 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: [ -> ]I'm a farm kid living on a couple hundred acres of waterfront. I'll be good.
Me too.
Let the city folk panic. It will provide amusement.
Clean water is the pinch point for most people. We can get by for pretty long time on not many calories if need be.
A gallon per day for each person in the household for drinking, cooking and hygiene is the bare minimum. More if you need to flush toilets, etc. If you have a water source nearby, better have filtration and treatment chemicals or the no-see-ums (bacteria, parasites, viruses and algae) may not kill you but may make you wish they had.