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It's crazy how many links regarding rape allegations and investigations are linked to Baylor University, then again I'm not surprised after having heard a couple of years ago where a playerhad killed his own teammate at a party I believe.

Sad though, to those who know of Art Briles history.

What do you guys think might happen in the long run?

Death penalty with Briles and Starr being dismissed from the school as a start??

If PSU can get away with pedophilia for 40 years without the Death Penalty, then Baylor has no shot. If I were W. Texas State, though, I might be very worried about NCAA sanctions coming out of this report.

While they are a P5 and thus are of a protected class, they are both new to that family and are not a big state school. I could see them being a sacrificial lamb to those still disturbed by the PedStateU fiasco et al. The continued allegations are more and more disturbing as they combine to form a display of a school and city beholden to the football team. Should be interesting to see how NCAA views this in comparison to Louisville and their stripper/hooker payments.


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(05-21-2016 12:21 AM)Puckhead48E Wrote: [ -> ]While they are a P5 and thus are of a protected class, they are both new to that family and are not a big state school. I could see them being a sacrificial lamb to those still disturbed by the PedStateU fiasco et al. The continued allegations are more and more disturbing as they combine to form a display of a school and city beholden to the football team. Should be interesting to see how NCAA views this in comparison to Louisville and their stripper/hooker payments.


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If Briles gets fired because of this, and Baylor gets huge sanctions aint no coach touching that job.

(05-21-2016 12:25 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-21-2016 12:21 AM)Puckhead48E Wrote: [ -> ]While they are a P5 and thus are of a protected class, they are both new to that family and are not a big state school. I could see them being a sacrificial lamb to those still disturbed by the PedStateU fiasco et al. The continued allegations are more and more disturbing as they combine to form a display of a school and city beholden to the football team. Should be interesting to see how NCAA views this in comparison to Louisville and their stripper/hooker payments.


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If Briles gets fired because of this, aint no coach touching that job.

Agreed. I think this is just the beginning for them.

No other Texas program is going to pay for baylor's screw-ups.

Now, had it been UT under investigation for these types of crew-ups, baylor would be paying for it.

No one is going to get the Death Penalty again.

(05-21-2016 12:13 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: [ -> ]It's crazy how many links regarding rape allegations and investigations are linked to Baylor University, then again I'm not surprised after having heard a couple of years ago where a playerhad killed his own teammate at a party I believe.

Sad though, to those who know of Art Briles history.

What do you guys think might happen in the long run?

Death penalty with Briles and Starr being dismissed from the school as a start??

Baylor didn't get a full death penalty from their basketball murder scandal from 2003, where:

1) One teammate (Dotson) killed (shots to the head) a fellow teammate (Dennehy)

2) During an investigation, it was proven that then Head Coach Bliss was paying tuition and other payments for Dennehy AND others so Bliss could have extra scholarships to use.

3) After Dennehy was found murdered (after a month search), Bliss and then the AD told others in the program to tell investigators that Dennehy was a drug dealer which is how he supposedly paid for his tuition.

4) HC Bliss flew to NY to tell the family of another player who he had made tuition/payments for (totaling almost $19,000) to lie....as the family thought their son was on scholarship...and then Bliss pretended to be that player's father during a meeting with the NCAA.

The above didn't earn a death penalty from the NCAA (NCAA punished Baylor by having them play reduced games for 1 year), and Bliss ended up being a Head Coach at a college prep school in TX...where he illegally recruited (and made payments) for out-of-town recruits that were border students...and was banned for 2 years...but somehow, ended up as a College Head Coach last year at NAIA Southwestern Christian Univ in Oklahoma.

(05-21-2016 06:32 AM)KnightLight Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-21-2016 12:13 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: [ -> ]It's crazy how many links regarding rape allegations and investigations are linked to Baylor University, then again I'm not surprised after having heard a couple of years ago where a playerhad killed his own teammate at a party I believe.

Sad though, to those who know of Art Briles history.

What do you guys think might happen in the long run?

Death penalty with Briles and Starr being dismissed from the school as a start??

Baylor didn't get a full death penalty from their basketball murder scandal from 2003, where:

1) One teammate (Dotson) killed (shots to the head) a fellow teammate (Dennehy)

2) During an investigation, it was proven that then Head Coach Bliss was paying tuition and other payments for Dennehy AND others so Bliss could have extra scholarships to use.

3) After Dennehy was found murdered (after a month search), Bliss and then the AD told others in the program to tell investigators that Dennehy was a drug dealer which is how he supposedly paid for his tuition.

4) HC Bliss flew to NY to tell the family of another player who he had made tuition/payments for (totaling almost $19,000) to lie....as the family thought their son was on scholarship...and then Bliss pretended to be that player's father during a meeting with the NCAA.

The above didn't earn a death penalty from the NCAA (NCAA punished Baylor by having them play reduced games for 1 year), and Bliss ended up being a Head Coach at a college prep school in TX...where he illegally recruited (and made payments) for out-of-town recruits that were border students...and was banned for 2 years...but somehow, ended up as a College Head Coach last year at NAIA Southwestern Christian Univ in Oklahoma.

The fact that Baylor has another scandal of this magnitude within a decade of that definitely screams lack of institutional control.

(05-21-2016 07:51 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-21-2016 06:32 AM)KnightLight Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-21-2016 12:13 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: [ -> ]It's crazy how many links regarding rape allegations and investigations are linked to Baylor University, then again I'm not surprised after having heard a couple of years ago where a playerhad killed his own teammate at a party I believe.

Sad though, to those who know of Art Briles history.

What do you guys think might happen in the long run?

Death penalty with Briles and Starr being dismissed from the school as a start??

Baylor didn't get a full death penalty from their basketball murder scandal from 2003, where:

1) One teammate (Dotson) killed (shots to the head) a fellow teammate (Dennehy)

2) During an investigation, it was proven that then Head Coach Bliss was paying tuition and other payments for Dennehy AND others so Bliss could have extra scholarships to use.

3) After Dennehy was found murdered (after a month search), Bliss and then the AD told others in the program to tell investigators that Dennehy was a drug dealer which is how he supposedly paid for his tuition.

4) HC Bliss flew to NY to tell the family of another player who he had made tuition/payments for (totaling almost $19,000) to lie....as the family thought their son was on scholarship...and then Bliss pretended to be that player's father during a meeting with the NCAA.

The above didn't earn a death penalty from the NCAA (NCAA punished Baylor by having them play reduced games for 1 year), and Bliss ended up being a Head Coach at a college prep school in TX...where he illegally recruited (and made payments) for out-of-town recruits that were border students...and was banned for 2 years...but somehow, ended up as a College Head Coach last year at NAIA Southwestern Christian Univ in Oklahoma.

The fact that Baylor has another scandal of this magnitude within a decade of that definitely screams lack of institutional control.

While true...the power of P5 will protect them...as odds are they will just get a slap on the wrist and maybe lose a few scholarships.

The ncaa will hit Rice very hard.

Not a chance.

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(05-21-2016 12:13 AM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote: [ -> ]It's crazy how many links regarding rape allegations and investigations are linked to Baylor University, then again I'm not surprised after having heard a couple of years ago where a playerhad killed his own teammate at a party I believe.

Sad though, to those who know of Art Briles history.

What do you guys think might happen in the long run?

Death penalty with Briles and Starr being dismissed from the school as a start??

No, the SEC will extend an offer of membership immediately.

Austin press having a field day with this

No way they get the death penalty and I doubt they get punished very hard, if at all.

(05-21-2016 12:39 PM)CPR Wrote: [ -> ]No way they get the death penalty and I doubt they get punished very hard, if at all.

Was listening to a radio program this morning and a lawyer was saying they are being so silent right now because they are preparing for mass lawsuits coming their way

if i was Baylor i would be more worried about losing/repaying funding from the federal government or federal fines than anything the ncaa will do (which would be close to nothing)

I remember laughing at what the camera was showing as Fox was showing off Baylors stadium during their opening game there a couple of years ago. they described this as a "fully equipped players lounge". I thought it was just funny then, not so much now

(05-21-2016 12:49 PM)tigerjeb Wrote: [ -> ]if i was Baylor i would be more worried about losing/repaying funding from the federal government or federal fines than anything the ncaa will do (which would be close to nothing)

I remember laughing at what the camera was showing as Fox was showing off Baylors stadium during their opening game there a couple of years ago. they described this as a "fully equipped players lounge". I thought it was just funny then, not so much now

It definitely looks fully equipped. Maybe the fox guys were in on it? Give fox the death penalty!

If they didnt give the death penalty to a school with a coach raping boys on campus for decads then i cant see them ever giving it again

(05-21-2016 12:20 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote: [ -> ]If PSU can get away with pedophilia for 40 years without the Death Penalty, then Baylor has no shot. If I were W. Texas State, though, I might be very worried about NCAA sanctions coming out of this report.

This.