(05-18-2016 08:56 PM)Hallcity Wrote: [ -> ] (05-18-2016 06:11 PM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ] (05-18-2016 05:51 PM)Hallcity Wrote: [ -> ]And what if pigs had wings?
You think that KU and OU going to the B1G at the end of the Big XII contract is that outlandish?
Yes.
The B12 contract has about ten years to go. What's the point in speculating about something so far off?
It's politically unlikely that KU could leave the B12 without KSU or that OU could leave without OSU or that the B1G would be interested in KSU or OSU.
It's unlikely that OU would be interested in the B1G or that the B1G would be interested in OU for geographic reasons. Try the SEC for something that would be less implausible. Even then you have to wonder whether OU would ever move away from the conference that contains Texas. OU certainly acted worried when there was a threat of Texas moving to the Pac.
If the B1G had some interest in adding KU, why didn't they add them before the B12 grant of rights?
Do you realize just how small a TV market Kansas is or how weak their football is? West Virginia would make more sense for the B1G, not that I think there's any chance of that happening.
Just accept that however boring it may seem to you there's little chance of anybody going anywhere for the next ten years, other than that there's some chance, probably small, of the B12 taking in a couple of schools like BYU or Cincy or Central Florida that no one else really wants. Even ten years from now when a bunch of grants of rights expire there still will probably be little if any movement.
1. I think potential movement is closer to 6 years off.
Their rights agreement ends in 8 years.
2. The political likelihood entirely hinges on how viable the Big XII is without them, which is why that was also covered in my question.
3. "It's unlikely that OU would be interested in the B1G or that the B1G would be interested in OU for geographic reasons."
I disagree. Look at a map. The B1G west would look no different than the ACC Coastal/Atlantic, the Big XII-2, the Pac 10, or the BIG EAST from back in the day. But more importantly, look at the conference composition. There's already
a major rivalry, and Oklahoma has a history of playing with Great Plains schools (
see Big 8).
4. I can answer the
OU and
UTexas being in the same conference question.
5. A) Yuppers. Kansas has a small TV market, but markets don't matter. That's why their tier 3 revenue is #3 in the Big XII, behind Texas (#1), and OU (#2). OU, by the way, also has a tiny market.
5. B) Yuppers. KU is terrible in football, but so is Rutgers. However, unlike Rutgers, KU is very, very good at basketball and has a big following. Somebody has to lose and Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Nebraska are a very good top three teams, and Minn and Iowa are a very solid next 2 down. I don't think that you could add another big program to that list without cannibalizing some of the top tier teams. There needs to be a punching bag, and KU is perfect for that. They can lose in football and keep a fan base because of their basketball team. Imagine KU - Indiana as a conference game in basketball. Or KU-MSU, KU-OSU, KU-UMD, or KU-Michigan. All of those would be great.
6. WVU will never be in the B1G. I know that you didn't say that they would be, but saying that they're more likely than KU or OU is crazy.
7. "Just accept that however boring it may seem to you there's little chance of anybody going anywhere for the next ten years."
I think that you misread my post. I asked if "[y]ou [thought] that KU and OU going to the B1G
at the end of the Big XII contract is
that outlandish."
8. There might not be movement, but I would put a lot of money on Nebraska desperately wanting OU in the B1G and a fair number of B1G west schools being very sympathetic. Kansas is probably also an easy sell to a number of schools. The gains are obvious for schools like Iowa, Nebraska, and Indiana. But I would imagine OSU, MSU, UMD, and Michigan would also be keen. They won't have to play KU with any regularity in football because KU would be in the west and they'd be in the east. So there isn't a huge loss there. However, they would get to play them in basketball every year. That represents a real gain.
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