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And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................


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I'm not sure when the next elections there are, but the socialist parties there will lose in a landslide.
Socialism did wonders down there... They really Feel the Bern
Its close to being a 'failed state'. I lived there for 2 years in the 90's. It was reasonably nice back them.

I went back there a year or so ago on a quick business trip. What a disaster. There's basically one hotel that functions (and it isn't the Tamanaco) in Caracas. You can't go anywhere. Its a nightmare. I told my client that I couldn't return, nor could I recommend that anyone else do so either. And I speak Spanish and feel very comfortable in places in Latin America that many Americans would not feel comfortable going to.

Usually, for insecure countries, the solution is that "we will set up a data room" in a hotel next to the international airport. Even that isn't a functioning solution in VZ as the airport has seen shocking levels of crime too. And then if someone gets sick, there's no medicine available either.

If I'm the VZ opposition, I'd announce that since the new congress has a 2/3rds majority, that any new debt or oil tomorrow for cash today deals will not be honored by any future VZ government unless ratified by a majority in the VZ Congress.

The lesson of Venezuela is not what many on here think it is.

Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence. A consequence of a country with vast wealth, but where 70 percent of the people never saw any of it. Venezuela under Carlos Andres Perez was an obvious mirage to me. If people don't have any stake in the system, they're not going to be concerned with keeping the system whole. Its true that now, they're worse off, but that's 15 years into it.

By the way, Obama is trying to play this 'hands off'. I think that's probably the best way to run this. Let Maduro run VZ off the rocks. Give Maduro little reason to blame anyone but himself for VZ's problems. But there might come a point where some measures might become necessary to prevent instablity in VZ to move to other countries. Or that the crisis there becomes a major humanitarian one. The US would be screwed regardless of how they try to intervene, so lets just not intervene.

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Trying to paint VZ as something even remotely similar to the USA under Obama or as it might be under Sanders shows a huge lack of understanding of what Obama, Sanders are and the huge gulf between their policies and that of Maduro.
(04-22-2016 12:33 PM)Niner National Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure when the next elections there are, but the socialist parties there will lose in a landslide.

There has been a pushback, but Chavez changed the entire country and economy so much they will have so many years trying to get back to where they were. It is a legit marxist totalitarian state.

Venezuela Finally Turns Communist
Maduro Follows Leninist Dogma to the Letter

When Hugo Chávez was running in his first successful presidential campaign, back in 1998, he was asked point blank in several television interviews whether or not he was a communist. His reply was identical to the one given by Fidel Castro to Princeton University students during his visit to the United States in 1959: “I am a humanist.” Years later, on consolidating total power in his own hands, Chávez again emulated Fidel and confessed to being “a convinced follower of Marxist-Leninist ideology.”

During his 14-year rule in Venezuela, Chávez followed a strategy of introducing socialism in stages. The first stage entailed obtaining total control of all institutions of the Venezuelan state. Thus, during the first four years, he concentrated his efforts in changing the Constitution, packing the Supreme Court, installing soviet-style political commissars in army units, and changing the national identity card and the electoral system to ensure his reelection through manipulation of voter-rolls. During this stage, Chávez was not interested in antagonizing the private sector or the business community. He had enough on his plate, and knew he could not tackle all enemies at once.

Just as Hitler’s final destruction of the Jewish middle class during Kristallnacht did not occur until five years after his ascension to power in Germany, in Venezuela, Chávez reassured the business community that he was not really interested in their demise. Throughout this period, “Chavismo” seemed very similar to Argentina’s “Peronismo.”

In September 2001, Chávez began his offensive for the “Second Stage of the Process for the Revolution,” as he called his march towards a totalitarian state. That month, he openly broke with the United States by calling the US bombing of Afghan targets “an act of terrorism equal to 9/11.” He then proceeded to pass 49 laws directed against the private sector. These laws eliminated private participation in the oil business, allowed for confiscation without payment of private lands, suspended constitutional guarantees for business owners, and established “military security zones” in major metropolitan areas — a de facto confiscation of prime real estate in Venezuela’s major cities. At the same time, he launched an all out attack against the country’s independent labor unions, persecuting and even imprisoning several prominent leaders.

These actions galvanized the opposition, as Chávez expected, and resulted in mass protests and two national General Strikes. He expected these reactions and was prepared for the challenge.

However, he miscalculated while he panicked during the mass protest and march of April 11, 2002. His order to members of his civilian armed militias to fire on unarmed demonstrators disgusted the officer corps that he had handpicked to run the Army. His own generals deposed him.

These same generals, though, quickly brought him back only three days later when the opposition’s chosen leader bungled in every imaginable way. As a result, the Second Stage of the Process succeeded. By the end of 2004, Chavez had embarked on an unstoppable march to acquire the “commanding heights” of the Venezuelan economy, destroyed the independent labor movement — its leaders were mostly imprisoned or had fled into exile — and gained control of most of the mass media outlets in the country.

Soon after, he faced significant problems with his image as a successor to Fidel Castro: large transnational corporations still had a major presence in key sectors of the Venezuelan economy, and the country’s revenues were completely dependent on oil sales to the United States. How could a budding 21st century Leninist achieve world fame if everyone knew that in his own country transnational corporations ran key sectors of the economy?

Thus, between 2008 and 2009, Chávez entered into the Third Stage of the Process. He nationalized the holdings of international corporations in all sectors considered essential by his Cuban advisers: telecommunications, mining, steel, construction materials, oil and oil services, energy generation, distribution and transmission, gas, agricultural services, and even glass companies. At the same time, Venezuela entered into a hugely expensive and disadvantageous agreement with China, with the sole purpose of diverting its oil exports from the United States to the Chinese market — thereby ending Venezuela’s dependence on the US market.

By the time of his death, Chávez had achieved most of what he had set out to do. A mediocre opposition, totally lacking a strategic vision, posed no problems. Moreover, as Chávez himself boasted several times, he had “infiltrated them to the core.” His aim was never to turn Venezuela into another Cuba. Chávez knew well that he needed the private sector to keep goods on the shelves and to avoid Venezuela becoming economically irrelevant in the way Cuba has become.

His relation to the Castro brothers was one of a comrade in arms and colleague. He needed the Cubans to provide security and repression expertise, and they needed him to keep the Cuban people fed. Chávez’s aim was to supplant Fidel as the new leader of the International Left, and he knew he needed a strong Venezuela to do that.

Since Chávez’s death, the situation has changed in Venezuela. Nicolás Maduro lacks Chavez’s brain-power and charisma and has become completely dependent on Cuban advice. The relationship with Cuba has also changed: Havana is an imperial capital, and Caracas is merely the viceroy’s seat of power. Maduro and his vice-president, Chávez’s son-in-law — a true Marxist fanatic with a degree from Cambridge University — know that merely tweaking electoral rolls and voting machines will not win them elections a-la Chávez. They need to enter the Fourth Stage and achieve the revolution now. The latest news out of Caracas is simply the attempt by Maduro’s and Chávez’s family members to keep hold of power despite their evident lack of popularity.

Thus, during the last few weeks, Maduro has decided to have his Kristallnacht. This time it is not the Jews that are persecuted, as in Hitler’s Germany (although Chavismo has always been openly anti-Semitic), but the entire business class of Venezuela — from small shop owners to executives from large companies. In the initial opening of Maduro’s declared “Economic War” against the business community, he accused all merchants of price gouging, and he forced shops to lower their prices by 70 to 30 percent.

Many citizens think it is immoral for a merchant to price his goods according to his rational expectations of what the exchange rate will be in the next few months, and not at the exchange rate artificially set by the government today. Only last January, the currency was devalued 48 percent, and yet the average consumer does not understand the concept of pricing to replacement cost. Thus, Maduro has achieved a great initial success. People are happy with his decision, only two weeks before Municipal elections take place. No one is thinking of what will happen in January when most of the shops do not reopen as they have been forced to liquidate their inventories below replacement values. No one, except Maduro and his vice-president, that is.

Last Friday, Maduro approved two laws that finally ended free markets in Venezuela. The first law, with the Orwellian name of “Law for the Protection of the Venezuelan Family and Control of Costs and Prices,” requires all businesses in Venezuela, large and small, to submit their price mark-ups for approval with the head of Venezuela’s newly created Economic Council (whose leader happens to be an army general). The second law creates a National Foreign Trade Center that will eventually become a monopoly that will handle all Venezuelan imports. Private companies will be allowed to operate only as local distributors and retailers of the National Foreign Trade Center.

In January, when Venezuelans discover that their cheap purchases of government-mandated, reduced-price goods produced the collapse of the private sector, the government will be ready with a Soviet-style rationing system. Already, black market operators are setting up shop in what promises to be a thriving business in Socialism for the 21st Century.

Venezuela has now become the continent’s second communist totalitarian state.
https://panampost.com/enrique-standish/2...t-finally/
(04-22-2016 12:33 PM)Niner National Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure when the next elections there are, but the socialist parties there will lose in a landslide.

That's a good question. The non-Chavez parties (most of whom are very far to the left of the Democrats in the USA, just not crazy) did win in a landslide in December's legislative elections. In theory, there's a mechanism to recall a President at midterm, but the VZ courts appear to be trying to invalidate that.

I think that its 2018 or 2020 before there's a mandated election.
(04-22-2016 12:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Its close to being a 'failed state'. I lived there for 2 years in the 90's. It was reasonably nice back them.

I went back there a year or so ago on a quick business trip. What a disaster. There's basically one hotel that functions (and it isn't the Tamanaco) in Caracas. You can't go anywhere. Its a nightmare. I told my client that I couldn't return, nor could I recommend that anyone else do so either. And I speak Spanish and feel very comfortable in places in Latin America that many Americans would not feel comfortable going to.

Usually, for insecure countries, the solution is that "we will set up a data room" in a hotel next to the international airport. Even that isn't a functioning solution in VZ as the airport has seen shocking levels of crime too. And then if someone gets sick, there's no medicine available either.

If I'm the VZ opposition, I'd announce that since the new congress has a 2/3rds majority, that any new debt or oil tomorrow for cash today deals will not be honored by any future VZ government unless ratified by a majority in the VZ Congress.

The lesson of Venezuela is not what many on here think it is.

Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence. A consequence of a country with vast wealth, but where 70 percent of the people never saw any of it. Venezuela under Carlos Andres Perez was an obvious mirage to me. If people don't have any stake in the system, they're not going to be concerned with keeping the system whole. Its true that now, they're worse off, but that's 15 years into it.

By the way, Obama is trying to play this 'hands off'. I think that's probably the best way to run this. Let Maduro run VZ off the rocks. Give Maduro little reason to blame anyone but himself for VZ's problems. But there might come a point where some measures might become necessary to prevent instablity in VZ to move to other countries. Or that the crisis there becomes a major humanitarian one. The US would be screwed regardless of how they try to intervene, so lets just not intervene.

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Trying to paint VZ as something even remotely similar to the USA under Obama or as it might be under Sanders shows a huge lack of understanding of what Obama, Sanders are and the huge gulf between their policies and that of Maduro.

one important omission is the value of the usd relative to the bolivar in overall scope....

the systemic changes are the same....and the usd will crumble at some point too....
(04-22-2016 12:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Its close to being a 'failed state'. I lived there for 2 years in the 90's. It was reasonably nice back them.

I went back there a year or so ago on a quick business trip. What a disaster. There's basically one hotel that functions (and it isn't the Tamanaco) in Caracas. You can't go anywhere. Its a nightmare. I told my client that I couldn't return, nor could I recommend that anyone else do so either. And I speak Spanish and feel very comfortable in places in Latin America that many Americans would not feel comfortable going to.

Usually, for insecure countries, the solution is that "we will set up a data room" in a hotel next to the international airport. Even that isn't a functioning solution in VZ as the airport has seen shocking levels of crime too. And then if someone gets sick, there's no medicine available either.

If I'm the VZ opposition, I'd announce that since the new congress has a 2/3rds majority, that any new debt or oil tomorrow for cash today deals will not be honored by any future VZ government unless ratified by a majority in the VZ Congress.

The lesson of Venezuela is not what many on here think it is.

Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence. A consequence of a country with vast wealth, but where 70 percent of the people never saw any of it. Venezuela under Carlos Andres Perez was an obvious mirage to me. If people don't have any stake in the system, they're not going to be concerned with keeping the system whole. Its true that now, they're worse off, but that's 15 years into it.

By the way, Obama is trying to play this 'hands off'. I think that's probably the best way to run this. Let Maduro run VZ off the rocks. Give Maduro little reason to blame anyone but himself for VZ's problems. But there might come a point where some measures might become necessary to prevent instablity in VZ to move to other countries. Or that the crisis there becomes a major humanitarian one. The US would be screwed regardless of how they try to intervene, so lets just not intervene.

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Trying to paint VZ as something even remotely similar to the USA under Obama or as it might be under Sanders shows a huge lack of understanding of what Obama, Sanders are and the huge gulf between their policies and that of Maduro.

one important omission is the value of the usd relative to the bolivar in overall scope....

the systemic changes are the same....and the usd will crumble at some point too....

Meh, I'm sticking with Dollars right now. Feel free to go gold or bitcoin.
(04-22-2016 12:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence. A consequence of a country with vast wealth, but where 70 percent of the people never saw any of it.

You said yourself, they were reasonably nice and functional with that model. Might not have been ideal but it was working better for people who needed things like toilet paper and electricity.

Now the politics of envy struck "why do the 1% have so much" and fracked it up for everyone.

Quote:Venezuela under Carlos Andres Perez was an obvious mirage to me. If people don't have any stake in the system, they're not going to be concerned with keeping the system whole. Its true that now, they're worse off, but that's 15 years into it.

Obviously they *DID* have a stake in the system. Because their lives were better under that than they are now. The problem is some snake oil leftists told them they had no stake and that the real enemy were the people who were moving money around in the economy.

Quote:By the way, Obama is trying to play this 'hands off'. I think that's probably the best way to run this.

I agree. That nation is now FUBAR and any action by the united states will lead to us eating more of the blame.

Quote:Or that the crisis there becomes a major humanitarian one. The US would be screwed regardless of how they try to intervene, so lets just not intervene.

Short of sending supplies *if* that occurs I agree. If they are starving send grain.

Quote:Trying to paint VZ as something even remotely similar to the USA under Obama or as it might be under Sanders shows a huge lack of understanding of what Obama, Sanders are and the huge gulf between their policies and that of Maduro.

I don't think Obama or Sanders would take us tat far. I do think they are unknowingly planting the seeds...

As a wise woman once said: 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers
(04-22-2016 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Its close to being a 'failed state'. I lived there for 2 years in the 90's. It was reasonably nice back them.

I went back there a year or so ago on a quick business trip. What a disaster. There's basically one hotel that functions (and it isn't the Tamanaco) in Caracas. You can't go anywhere. Its a nightmare. I told my client that I couldn't return, nor could I recommend that anyone else do so either. And I speak Spanish and feel very comfortable in places in Latin America that many Americans would not feel comfortable going to.

Usually, for insecure countries, the solution is that "we will set up a data room" in a hotel next to the international airport. Even that isn't a functioning solution in VZ as the airport has seen shocking levels of crime too. And then if someone gets sick, there's no medicine available either.

If I'm the VZ opposition, I'd announce that since the new congress has a 2/3rds majority, that any new debt or oil tomorrow for cash today deals will not be honored by any future VZ government unless ratified by a majority in the VZ Congress.

The lesson of Venezuela is not what many on here think it is.

Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence. A consequence of a country with vast wealth, but where 70 percent of the people never saw any of it. Venezuela under Carlos Andres Perez was an obvious mirage to me. If people don't have any stake in the system, they're not going to be concerned with keeping the system whole. Its true that now, they're worse off, but that's 15 years into it.

By the way, Obama is trying to play this 'hands off'. I think that's probably the best way to run this. Let Maduro run VZ off the rocks. Give Maduro little reason to blame anyone but himself for VZ's problems. But there might come a point where some measures might become necessary to prevent instablity in VZ to move to other countries. Or that the crisis there becomes a major humanitarian one. The US would be screwed regardless of how they try to intervene, so lets just not intervene.

---

Trying to paint VZ as something even remotely similar to the USA under Obama or as it might be under Sanders shows a huge lack of understanding of what Obama, Sanders are and the huge gulf between their policies and that of Maduro.

one important omission is the value of the usd relative to the bolivar in overall scope....

the systemic changes are the same....and the usd will crumble at some point too....

Meh, I'm sticking with Dollars right now. Feel free to go gold or bitcoin.

that isn't the point.....however, it's always about you, eh? that point is easy to determine....
(04-22-2016 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers

Well I'll have to agree since I married one. I think Venezuela has produced the most Ms Universe winners.
(04-22-2016 01:15 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers

Well I'll have to agree since I married one. I think Venezuela has produced the most Ms Universe winners.

I do love the latinos....and the rest of 'em too...

now I'm too old to care anymore....dial a ho' is where it's at....
(04-22-2016 01:18 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:15 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers

Well I'll have to agree since I married one. I think Venezuela has produced the most Ms Universe winners.

I do love the latinos....and the rest of 'em too...

now I'm too old to care anymore....dial a ho' is where it's at....

Would not surprise me, they have stunners all over the place in S. America, Caribbean also. Dated this Rican girl here in Cincy years ago, but she phuking crazy and jealous.
I still think Buenos Aires has more beautiful women, per capita, than any other place that I have ever been.

Beautiful women, great food, great wine--and the Argentines can still figure out how to f-up the whole thing.
(04-22-2016 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers



And she probably loves you so much that she'll give you a going away present. 03-wink

Beware of shack ups. They have nothing to lose or gain.
(04-22-2016 01:25 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:09 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!

I am a big fan of Latin women. Spent a weekend with a Colombian girl in North Carolina recently, and when I go to DR I have this girl down there shacks up with me. 04-cheers



And she probably loves you so much that she'll give you a going away present. 03-wink

Beware of shack ups. They have nothing to lose or gain.

Condoms and lube my friend, lots of them. Ironically she is the only girl whoever required a Clinic Report that showed I had no STDs. Had sex with lots and lots of women and she is the only one that said you better bring the report with you.

She is a reliable super hot girl that does not beg for money. Nice family also, met her Mom and Dad, good people.
(04-22-2016 12:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]Its close to being a 'failed state'. I lived there for 2 years in the 90's. It was reasonably nice back them.

Chavez/Maduro aren't a solution, but they were a consequence.

This makes no sense, Tom.. You said it was nice in Venezuela in the 90's.

90's: Perez, Lepage, Velasquez, Caldera
00's: Chavez/Maduro

So how do you say that Chavez/Maduro are a "consequence" of what was apparently a good situation in Venezuela?

There's a BIG gap in the logic here or you're simply unwilling to admit that Chavez and Maduro F***'ed up their country.


But I do agree that we should be hands off as much as possible as regards to our Government involvement, outside of humanitarian assistance.
(04-22-2016 01:06 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2016 12:14 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]And Caracas is the murder capital of the planet!

Venezuela cuts power for four hours a day to save energy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36108295

Venezuela is introducing power cuts of four hours a day from next week to deal with a worsening energy crisis.
The cuts will last for 40 days as the country struggles under a severe drought limiting hydroelectric output.
It is the latest setback to Venezuela's economy which has been hit by a sharp fall in the price of its main export, oil.
The country's main brewer, Polar, also says it will stop production because it has no dollars to buy grain abroad.
The company, which produces 80% of the country's beer, says 10,000 workers will be affected by the stoppage..............................................................................

but they do produce some beautiful women!!!!
With the economy in shambles, maybe they'll start exporting more to us.
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