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(04-14-2016 03:35 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.utrockets.com/news/2016/4/14/...miami.aspx

This is yet another example of kids going to a bigger school and not getting playing time. Unfortunately the BCS schools continue to overpromise when these kids can go to UT and play. All well having a better experience overall because UT cares about the kids.

Did UT recruit them out of High School? If not, I wonder how they connected with the Rocket coaching staff this time around.

(04-14-2016 04:41 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 03:35 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.utrockets.com/news/2016/4/14/...miami.aspx

This is yet another example of kids going to a bigger school and not getting playing time. Unfortunately the BCS schools continue to overpromise when these kids can go to UT and play. All well having a better experience overall because UT cares about the kids.

Would we really want recruits without the competitive urge? I think players like this are being unfairly characterized.


If Alabama, Florida or a program like that lets a player in, that's likely someone a very qualifies coach felt a quality athlete. Just because that kid didn't win the competition doesn't mean they should have gone to a less competitive program in the first place.

Would we really want recruits who only came here because they felt guaranteed playing time because the competition was easier?

Watching a load of seniors leave and open up a position is certainly a recruiting opportunity but generally, I would think we want recruits who desire to compete for that playing time against the best opportunity they're able to achieve, who feel the University is their best fit academically and who respect what the University can help them achieve.

(04-14-2016 06:13 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 04:41 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 03:35 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.utrockets.com/news/2016/4/14/...miami.aspx

This is yet another example of kids going to a bigger school and not getting playing time. Unfortunately the BCS schools continue to overpromise when these kids can go to UT and play. All well having a better experience overall because UT cares about the kids.

Would we really want recruits without the competitive urge? I think players like this are being unfairly characterized.


If Alabama, Florida or a program like that lets a player in, that's likely someone a very qualifies coach felt a quality athlete. Just because that kid didn't win the competition doesn't mean they should have gone to a less competitive program in the first place.

Would we really want recruits who only came here because they felt guaranteed playing time because the competition was easier?

Watching a load of seniors leave and open up a position is certainly a recruiting opportunity but generally, I would think we want recruits who desire to compete for that playing time against the best opportunity they're able to achieve, who feel the University is their best fit academically and who respect what the University can help them achieve.

It also helps that our boys were in the Top 25 for most of the year and they regularly beat P5 teams........ The transfers want to go to where they can win also.

(04-14-2016 06:44 PM)Terry Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 06:13 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 04:41 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 03:35 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.utrockets.com/news/2016/4/14/...miami.aspx

This is yet another example of kids going to a bigger school and not getting playing time. Unfortunately the BCS schools continue to overpromise when these kids can go to UT and play. All well having a better experience overall because UT cares about the kids.

Would we really want recruits without the competitive urge? I think players like this are being unfairly characterized.


If Alabama, Florida or a program like that lets a player in, that's likely someone a very qualifies coach felt a quality athlete. Just because that kid didn't win the competition doesn't mean they should have gone to a less competitive program in the first place.

Would we really want recruits who only came here because they felt guaranteed playing time because the competition was easier?

Watching a load of seniors leave and open up a position is certainly a recruiting opportunity but generally, I would think we want recruits who desire to compete for that playing time against the best opportunity they're able to achieve, who feel the University is their best fit academically and who respect what the University can help them achieve.

It also helps that our boys were in the Top 25 for most of the year and they regularly beat P5 teams........ The transfers want to go to where they can win also.

But I would find interesting an answer to why choose transfers over Freshman recruits. Is their concern that well is a little dryer? Are these filling an immediate need? And as asked before, how did they come to be connected to UT? Is there a broker out there making connections? Coaching connection?....

I like it...I like it a lot !!

Guys who aren't getting playing time at P5 schools aren't necessarily going to be stars at UT.

Both kids are from the Tampa area...wonder if they know each other, or if they have connections to some of the other guys from Tampa...Covington, Johnson?

It's great that they want to come up here and play out their eligibility. I'm sure they will help out. And if they could bring some DB's with them that would be great.

(04-14-2016 08:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]But I would find interesting an answer to why choose transfers over Freshman recruits. Is their concern that well is a little dryer? Are these filling an immediate need? And as asked before, how did they come to be connected to UT? Is there a broker out there making connections? Coaching connection?....

I think that they are expected to fill an immediate need for experience if not talent. Last year they brought in Carter on the OL having graduated 5 OL the year before. Last year the D had a heavy loss of experience with a lot of the starters graduating, so this year they are bringing grads that play D.

When a player transfers in as a grad student with only one year of eligibility left, I suspect that they are all going to be expected to fill an immediate need or at least represent an upgrade at their position, otherwise it is a waste of scholarship from a coach's perspective.

You do what needs to be done, fill an immediate need. Freshman in most cases can't do that unless they are good enough to get a lot of playing time on the 2nd team.

Great news. While another MAC school to the south loses its best players to bigger schools and NFL dreams. We keep ours and get grown men from the elite programs in the nation. Carter from FSU was great. These guys were on the field. Powell isn't a big lb but he will be a great addition to lb rotation. He started 2 games for one the best defenses in the nation. Moore started 2 games as a frosh at Miami but never found a permanent home. He played de and DT against some great offenses so he will depth to the dline rotation. Gives Hester a veteran 300 pounder to play NXT to. Very efficient use of scholarships at this point in the yr.

(04-15-2016 03:48 AM)pono Wrote: [ -> ]Great news. While another MAC school to the south loses its best players to bigger schools and NFL dreams. We keep ours and get grown men from the elite programs in the nation. Carter from FSU was great. These guys were on the field. Powell isn't a big lb but he will be a great addition to lb rotation. He started 2 games for one the best defenses in the nation. Moore started 2 games as a frosh at Miami but never found a permanent home. He played de and DT against some great offenses so he will depth to the dline rotation. Gives Hester a veteran 300 pounder to play NXT to. Very efficient use of scholarships at this point in the yr.

Both could end up to be non-entities but based on what I see so far they are great additions to potentially weak areas. And people say Kowalczyk doesn't care about defense. Oh, wait.....wrong thread. Anyway, I suspect both will see a lot of PT an really help our depth. Moreover, after Carter, Ely, and these two Toledo may be gaining a rep as a go-to place for disaffected big school talent.

These two player additions make total sense. Two scholarships were available. We are using them on two guys who were highly rated but have not played a whole lot for top programs. We will have their scholarships available for 2017 recruits. There is no negatives at all by doing this. My guess is that both will get serious playing time and help with our depth. We can never be too deep.

(04-14-2016 10:15 PM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 08:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]But I would find interesting an answer to why choose transfers over Freshman recruits. Is their concern that well is a little dryer? Are these filling an immediate need? And as asked before, how did they come to be connected to UT? Is there a broker out there making connections? Coaching connection?....

I think that they are expected to fill an immediate need for experience if not talent. Last year they brought in Carter on the OL having graduated 5 OL the year before. Last year the D had a heavy loss of experience with a lot of the starters graduating, so this year they are bringing grads that play D.

When a player transfers in as a grad student with only one year of eligibility left, I suspect that they are all going to be expected to fill an immediate need or at least represent an upgrade at their position, otherwise it is a waste of scholarship from a coach's perspective.

DB Milligan was also a 1 year transfer (but for another reason) that provided depth and playing time on the defense. That Pick Six he had last fall was one of the plays of the year to me.

(04-15-2016 08:02 AM)Terry Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 10:15 PM)T-Town Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2016 08:03 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]But I would find interesting an answer to why choose transfers over Freshman recruits. Is their concern that well is a little dryer? Are these filling an immediate need? And as asked before, how did they come to be connected to UT? Is there a broker out there making connections? Coaching connection?....

I think that they are expected to fill an immediate need for experience if not talent. Last year they brought in Carter on the OL having graduated 5 OL the year before. Last year the D had a heavy loss of experience with a lot of the starters graduating, so this year they are bringing grads that play D.

When a player transfers in as a grad student with only one year of eligibility left, I suspect that they are all going to be expected to fill an immediate need or at least represent an upgrade at their position, otherwise it is a waste of scholarship from a coach's perspective.

DB Milligan was also a 1 year transfer (but for another reason) that provided depth and playing time on the defense. That Pick Six he had last fall was one of the plays of the year to me.

Milligan was a great DB. Tremendous hitter and playmaker. What a great addition for the Rockets.

I can not see a downside here. With injuries and graduation we needed a little boost and we just got it. I am feeling really good about the season... I'm a realist and have not predicted anything but 8 and 4 records in the past years but this year squad has me excited... 10 and 2 rocket nation. If Def backfield gels we have no limits... oh and starting Qb performs average.

Great news!

(04-15-2016 12:13 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Great news!

I concur.