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Been working on something (for a lot longer than I originally planned) that hopefully everyone will enjoy, maybe spark some debate and allow all to reminisce about a select cast of characters (but unfortunately, not all). To put the finishing touches on the first phase, I'm asking for you to look over the stats on the two pages of this survey, http://goo.gl/forms/1FB1sfpS7n, and vote for a Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year.

My hope is to lift the curtain on the blog by the end of the week, it will depend on the response. Thank you to all who take the time to help.

I voted. I would have liked to seen more stats in deciding the defensive player of the year other than just blocks, rebounds, steals but interesting how the numbers compare to each other. Blocks and steals are fine but what about defensive rebounds instead of just rebounds, or defensive rebound percentage, or fg percentage against them etc. There is more to defense than just blocks and steals or even blocks and rebounds.

LOL, sorry, I would have had to hire a full time stat crew to get any advanced stats. Thanks for taking the time, hopefully the reveal will explain the stat limitations.

(04-13-2016 09:15 AM)DrachenFire Wrote: [ -> ]LOL, sorry, I would have had to hire a full time stat crew to get any advanced stats. Thanks for taking the time, hopefully the reveal will explain the stat limitations.

Oh I am quite sure there are some dated names through those lists, probably even before many even became stats, but I was just stating my opinion. It will be interesting to see who is who on those lists (without doing any research myself)

I voted. Not sure what era you're looking at but I have guesses for whom I voted.

This reminds me a little that I've wanted to update my top players list on my website for a while. Last time I did it, I came to the zone for votes, of which I only got a few, but it was helpful to be sure that my thoughts were confirmed.

Just curious and apologies for not recalling... when did each of you begin your Drexel fandom?

(04-14-2016 11:41 AM)bdragon Wrote: [ -> ]I voted. Not sure what era you're looking at but I have guesses for whom I voted.

This reminds me a little that I've wanted to update my top players list on my website for a while. Last time I did it, I came to the zone for votes, of which I only got a few, but it was helpful to be sure that my thoughts were confirmed.

Just curious and apologies for not recalling... when did each of you begin your Drexel fandom?

I like that you guys are guessing, but I can assure you that you'd never be able to find these stats and who/when they are attributable to. I was hoping to get to 20 votes and spill the beans tomorrow, but I've only gotten 4 so far.

As for fandom, I had never even heard of Drexel until I stumbled upon one of the NAC title games on the Deuce. I was kind of shocked to find out there was a sixth Philadelphia team. I only passively followed them (watching standings) after that. Think I only went to one game as a student, tough being a commuter and on co-op and generally shy, but listened to the CAA title game vs the Dub and watched the PNIT games. Went to a couple of games in 06-07, including the tourney, but didn't get completely sucked in and become a ticket holder until 09-10.

Athletic-wise not until I was a student from 2007-2012, just missed the first snub, and just in time for Frank's senior year. Others from the zone who posted or hadnt posted for quite some time go back much further into the Malik years. I am a recent fan, though I got to enjoy, seemingly, the best of the Bruiser years or at least some of the most talented players to ever step on the court at Drexel.

Fortunately during that time, the women won a championship and went dancing, so the pain from the men's team was not all bad. In both cases seeing players such as Frank Elegar, Gabriela Marginean, Jasmina Rosseel, Chris Fouch, Frantz Massenat, Samme Givens, Damion Lee all play was still a treat.

Thanks, I'll share my story also.

Attended from 89-94. Lived on Myers 3rd floor as a freshman, shared a hallway with the men's team. Lived right next to Arthur Clark and a team manager. Despite that, I really had no clue about DUMB. It didn't strike me until later that I basically said hi to Clarence Armstrong, Mike Thompson and Jon Raab, everyday. Three of the nicest guys around. My roommate hated them because they were so loud.

Got hooked in Herrion's first year when a great friend and pep band member convinced me to come out and watch a big game vs. Maine in February. Clarence won it with a buzzer beater and after that I didn't miss a game on campus until I graduated. Went to Landover for the NCAA Temple loss and Baltimore (yes, Royal Farms arena) for the OK State loss. Although my interest waned a little in the Seymour years, have been a follower ever since graduation.

It is somewhat funny that my last post in this thread was how I became a fan of the program and that I then spent a good portion of the past three months seriously considering whether I wanted to remain one. That now makes this reveal even more untimely then when I started this thread, but I've put a lot of time into this and don't really feel like letting it go to waste, so...

Submitted for your approval, a seemingly ordinary eleven team college basketball league. In a matter of moments it will begin both its inaugural and final season of play. For some of the players, they will soon find themselves in the unsettling predicament of playing against opponents that are akin to playing against a mirror. A league in which they can be the ultimate champions and also the losers. Impossible you say? You’re outside of the arena and the games are ready to tip, open the scary door and enter…

The Bru Zone Man-to-Man (What, did you not pay attention the past 15 years!)

Ideally, this would have been done before a new coach was hired so as not to dwell in the past and instead look towards a brighter future. And that was the plan, to roll it out before the NCAA Tournament started and then follow along with it all ending some time around the National Championship. Between Drexel only taking a couple of weeks to come to their decision and this process taking a lot longer than I expected while remaining a part-time engineer and part-time dad, I missed that mark - by a whole lot. So, what is this all about? What and who were you voting for if you took the time to choose a Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year (thank you, by the way, to those of you who did)?

To answer those questions, I’m going to ask a few more. Who was the best player to don the Blue and Gold during Bruiser Flint’s tenure? Which of the two snub teams was better, 06-07 or 11-12? And why just leave it to those two, which team out of Bruiser’s 15 squads was the best? In the real world, there really isn’t any way to answer that definitively. Sure you can look at stats and compare KenPom numbers, but you can’t get each team collectively to compete against each other without time travel and paradoxes that would probably destroy the universe or without throwing Matthew McConaughey into the nearest convenient black hole. Here in the Bru M2M these questions no longer are left to BAFL us. We can pit these teams against one another and formulate stats and choose a POY and DPOY and crown an overall champion Bruiser squad.

So that’s what I did.

Welcome to the Basketball Alumni of Flint League (BAFL). Utilizing WhatIfSports.com’s college basketball SimMatchup tool, I created a league made up of Bruiser Flint coached Drexel teams (11 out of the 15 - website did not have the 01-02, 03-04, 04-05 or 15-16 squads as options when I did this) and worked them through a double round-robin regular season schedule for 20 total games. Each team’s players were given target minutes played based off of their real-life minutes played in each corresponding real-life season. Games were simmed, stats were logged, and cryptic votes were cast. Here then, are the Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year as chosen by you, my unknowing guinea pigs.

BAFL Player of the Year
Damion Lee 14-15
BAFL Defensive Player of the Year
Robert Battle 02-03

Everything is logged at a website I created for BAFL. There you can find the final regular season standings, team pages with stats and results with boxscores (I had originally linked each game to the WhatIfSports link for that game along with the play-by-play for each half, unfortunately the website only keeps links active for about 48 hrs so I’m only left with 68/110 boxscores of the regular season that I had saved before they were erased. Those links are still active.) and the playoff bracket. My plan moving forward is to complete one round of the playoffs and upload the stats to the website per week. Playoff series will be best-of-three with the higher seed on the road, at home and at neutral site when necessary. So follow along, comment, yell at me for getting something wrong, guess who’ll cut down the cobwebs in my head as champion and their #OneShiningBrument, but also take one last look back at 15 years worth of characters who all called the DAC their stage.

BAFL - The Website
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/

BAFL Opening Round - Game 1

2008-09: 59 @ 2014-15: 63
2011-12: 59 @ 2007-08: 65
2005-06: 39 @ 2012-13: 68

https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

No compiled stats, don't have the time.

(07-25-2016 12:42 PM)DrachenFire Wrote: [ -> ]BAFL Opening Round - Game 1

2008-09: 59 @ 2014-15: 63
2011-12: 59 @ 2007-08: 65
2005-06: 39 @ 2012-13: 68

https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

No compiled stats, don't have the time.

Quote from the 05-06 Bru in the post game:
"Whatcha want me to do? Dom and Bash shot 3 for 21. They were open shots. Our offense worked fine, guys just gotta step up and make shots. Whatcha want me to do?"

A slick move though by the 12-13 Flint in putting the injured Fouch in for garbage time which should ruin his eligibility to play for the 13-14 team that they play next.

BAFL Opening Round - Game 2
2014-15: 71 @ 2008-09: 65 -> 2014-15 Wins Series 2-0
2007-08: 73 @ 2011-12: 58 -> 2007-08 Wins Series 2-0
2012-13: 61 @ 2005-06: 49 -> 2012-13 Wins Series 2-0
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

For anyone who was expecting the 2011-12 team to turn it on once the playoffs started, they shockingly are swept right out of them by the 2007-08 squad.

Coach 2012-13 Flint wisely keeps Fouch off the court as his squad complete the sweep of the 2005-06 Dragons.

BAFL Quarterfinals
#1) 2006-07 Vs #9) 2014-15
#4) 2010-11 Vs #5) 2002-03
#3) 2009-10 Vs #11) 2007-08
#2) 2013-14 Vs #10) 2012-13

(07-27-2016 03:28 PM)Water Boy Wrote: [ -> ]A slick move though by the 12-13 Flint in putting the injured Fouch in for garbage time which should ruin his eligibility to play for the 13-14 team that they play next.

Tried to avoid that by replaying games where players that didn't play due to injury snuck in. Missed this one and it may not be the last time it happens in the playoffs.

ETA: Also, thanks for taking a look at the site. I've tried to have some fun with this.

BAFL Quarterfinals - Game 1
(1)2006-07: 50 @ (9)2014-15: 55 2014-15 leads 1-0
(4)2010-11: 69 @ (5)2002-03: 52 2010-11 leads 1-0
(3)2009-10: 56 @ (11)2007-08: 61 2007-08 leads 1-0
(2)2013-14: 68 @ (10)2012-13: 58 2013-14 leads 1-0

https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

I just have a hard time believing the validity that that '07-'08 team would ever beat the '11-'12 team, yet alone twice in 2 games. That 07-08 team had zero heart whatsoever. This certainly has been mostly upsets by seed to this point.

I was surprised in general that the sim didn't seem all that impressed with the 11-12 team as they only managed to go .500 in the regular season. Obviously the sim doesn't take fatigue from a season's worth of games into account or "heart". Frank and Tramayne blew up in the two playoff games, and that seemed to be that.

BAFL Quarterfinals - Game 2
(9)2014-15: 62 @ (1)2006-07: 67 -> Series tied 1-1
(5)2002-03: 58 @ (4)2010-11: 63 -> 2010-11 Wins Series 2-0
(11)2007-08: 70 @ (3)2009-10: 78 -> Series tied 1-1
(10)2012-13: 54 @ (2)2013-14: 58 -> 2013-14 Wins Series 2-0
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

OT deciding game thriller as the #1 2006-07 team dispatches the 2014-15 Fighting Damions. In the other deciding Game 3, the #3 2009-10 squad fended off pesky, upset minded 2007-08.

BAFL Quarterfinals - Game 3
(9) 2014-15: 68 N (1) 2006-07: 76 - OT
(11) 2007-08: 50 N (3) 2009-10: 56
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

Chalk semis up ahead.

BAFL Semifinals
#1) 2006-07 Vs #4) 2010-11
#2) 2013-14 Vs #3) 2009-10

It's not dead, it's feeling better.

Both lower seeds hold home court to take the opening games of the semis:

BAFL Semifinals - Game 1
(1) 2006-07: 73 @ (4) 2010-11: 75 -> 2010-11 leads 1-0
(2) 2013-14: 58 @ (3) 2009-10: 72 -> 2009-10 leads 1-0
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

Both higher seeds even each series at home, setting up two winner-take-all matchups to advance to the finals.

BAFL Semifinals - Game 2
(4) 2010-11: 59 @ (1) 2006-07: 66
(3) 2009-10: 54 @ (2) 2013-14: 57
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

The finals are set. The top seeded 2006-07 squad is upset in its neutral site tilt against 4 seed 2010-11. In the other deciding game, the 2 seed 2013-14 squad does away with the 3 seed 2009-10 team.

BAFL Semifinals - Game 3
(4) 2010-11: 68 N (1) 2006-07: 58
(3) 2009-10: 66 N (2) 2013-14: 75
https://sites.google.com/site/2016bafl/playoffs

"For some of the players, they will soon find themselves in the unsettling predicament of playing against opponents that are akin to playing against a mirror. A league in which they can be the ultimate champions and also the losers."
Who will cut down the nets? Will Frosh Frantz be able to lead his team past his future senior self to its #OneShiningBrument? The BAFL Finals start next week!