(03-20-2016 10:48 AM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 10:36 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]But no conference had two #1 seeds, who have the easiest roads. The upsets have clearly benefited the ACC so far.
ACC fans need to keep it in perspective when beating their chests. They have performed as expected except for Cuse beating Dayton...that was clearly a good win for the conference as a whole.
Beating our chests?
I'd say that is an overstatement...I've been through enough of these tourneys to realize luck (draw, injury, site location) is as important as the strength of the team.
BTW, Louisville isn't even playing...yet most of the ACC teams suffered losses by them to hurt our seeding. Cuse is a shell of itself right now.
It wasn't an ACC fan of who started this thread.
Luck is all apart of March Madness. 10-1 is the best record so far but everything gets harder from the Sweet 16 on. Just survive & advance. The ACC, B1G & the Big 12 are doing that the best so far.
Was not referring to this thread or the posters on it...was more referring to the national perspective...all the major sites championing the record, etc...the fly by media don't add context, just love headlines.
What the acc is doing is impressively 10-1 is no joke. I'm also happy with how big ten is doing in what was a down year for the conference.
(03-20-2016 09:10 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 12:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]AAC is 1-4 but all of the losses were either very hard fought or to a team that simply outclassed them (and the team that lost in that circumstance had the only win).
our best team in SMU was banned, so I'll take 4 in with 5 NCAA credits...
The issue for the AAC is they are losing 16 credits this year. They only picked up 5 credits from this tournament for a net loss of 11. I think they will be the lowest credit multi bid conference this year. As a mid major, that will be a huge finacial hit. They can only live off the old Big East money for so long. Odds are they will not get an early bid from ESPN on the football TV contract due to the current cable environment, Talk about a conference that can't catch a break.
(03-20-2016 12:10 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 09:10 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 12:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]AAC is 1-4 but all of the losses were either very hard fought or to a team that simply outclassed them (and the team that lost in that circumstance had the only win).
our best team in SMU was banned, so I'll take 4 in with 5 NCAA credits...
The issue for the AAC is they are losing 16 credits this year. They only picked up 5 credits from this tournament for a net loss of 11. I think they will be the lowest credit multi bid conference this year. As a mid major, that will be a huge finacial hit. They can only live off the old Big East money for so long. Odds are they will not get an early bid from ESPN on the football TV contract due to the current cable environment, Talk about a conference that can't catch a break.
The SEC currently stands with 5 credits this year. Texas A&M has to win today and is the only SEC team left.
How many credits is the SEC losing from 6 years ago?
The AAC isn't losing 16 credits this year. Remember the units earned by the C7 and ND were negotiated back to the Big East and Notre Dame respectively. So they are only losing 11 units and picking up 5- so net -6.
Why the hell would they negotiate the credits back to the C7 and UND? Wasn't giving up the conference name enough?
(03-20-2016 12:48 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Why the hell would they negotiate the credits back to the C7 and UND? Wasn't giving up the conference name enough?
It was in the pre-nup.
(03-20-2016 12:48 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Why the hell would they negotiate the credits back to the C7 and UND? Wasn't giving up the conference name enough?
The Big East schools kept their credits and paid for the name as part of the split.
What really helped the American was the Syracuse and L-ville credits earned...they kept those credits and the exit fee's as well.
(03-20-2016 01:15 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 12:48 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]Why the hell would they negotiate the credits back to the C7 and UND? Wasn't giving up the conference name enough?
The Big East schools kept their credits and paid for the name as part of the split.
What really helped the American was the Syracuse and L-ville credits earned...they kept those credits and the exit fee's as well.
and even with the year that is coming off the book- 2010- WVU.
(03-19-2016 01:34 PM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]Although the Big12 and BigTen had some disapointing losses, did any conference do worst than the Pac-12 in thursday and Friday's round of 64 games?
Did the MVC do the best job of performing above expections?
So sorry that Super Nova exploded on you guys Goofus.
I don't think it can be argued that CUSA hasn't exceeded expectations.
Or at least that their conference tournament winner is still hot. I'll toss you a bone and say it's at least as good as what the AAC has done.
If basketball meant anything more thsn a popcorn fart the SEC would own it too.
(03-20-2016 01:26 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2016 01:34 PM)goofus Wrote: [ -> ]Although the Big12 and BigTen had some disapointing losses, did any conference do worst than the Pac-12 in thursday and Friday's round of 64 games?
Did the MVC do the best job of performing above expections?
So sorry that Super Nova exploded on you guys Goofus.
Fortunately for me, I did not have a chance to see the game. Sounds like Nova had an awesome first half. Good for the Big East. In fact, the east side of the country in general seems to be doing well. The farther west you get, the worse the conference's get.
yeah you look at the sweet 16 so far...
Duke, Miami, Nova, Kansas, Indiana, UNC, Iowa St, UVA, Notre Dame, and Gonzaga. And could add Xavier, Syracuse, Maryland tonight. The only 2 western schools could be Oregon and Gonzaga.
The West likes to complain about East Coast bias, but in all reality, the last team to win a National Championship west of Kansas was Arizona in 1997. Reality is reality.
Props to Gonzaga though for their consistency. Also, it's amazing how much better they perform in the tourney as an underdog.
(03-20-2016 06:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]yeah you look at the sweet 16 so far...
Duke, Miami, Nova, Kansas, Indiana, UNC, Iowa St, UVA, Notre Dame, and Gonzaga. And could add Xavier, Syracuse, Maryland tonight. The only 2 western schools could be Oregon and Gonzaga.
That's basically the way it always is. The West has 2/3 of the country's land but the east has 2/3 the population and will naturally have more teams.
There's hope for a North Pacific/Oceania team however.
(03-20-2016 06:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote: [ -> ]The West likes to complain about East Coast bias, but in all reality, the last team to win a National Championship west of Kansas was Arizona in 1997. Reality is reality.
Props to Gonzaga though for their consistency. Also, it's amazing how much better they perform in the tourney as an underdog.
Hardly, this is their first Sweet 16 as a double digit seed in 15 years. They were bowing out in the first weekend as a 1-seed or a 11-seed. They underachieved so much that it's actually mildly surprising they are actually taking care of business. The 2005 and '06 team(s) with that choke to UCLA were the worst offenders as well as the 2013 team and their 1-seed (granted, they just ran into a team that was as lucky than good). The 2009 team ran into a buzzsaw.
It's been a long time since the Zags were a legit factor in March year to year.
(03-20-2016 09:02 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 08:04 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ] (03-20-2016 12:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]AAC is 1-4 but all of the losses were either very hard fought or to a team that simply outclassed them (and the team that lost in that circumstance had the only win).
That's a total of two wins in two years for the AAC. Considering how many schools in that league consider themselves strong basketball programs, that's pretty weak sauce. Whether that hurts the chances of members for a P5 callup remains to be seen.
I can't argue the fact it has been a disappointment the past two years with only two wins. However, you are not including the first year of the conference in 2013/2014 when UConn won it all. Granted, Louisville was still in the AAC at that point but the league took 9 wins and 3 losses in the tourney that year. Take the red birds record out and the league went 7-2.
Well, UConn went 6-0. The rest of the league went 1-2.
Two wins in the first two full years of the AAC is bad.