I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
(03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
(03-08-2016 04:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
No it wouldn't . You have 2 autobids to work with. All you have to do is a little shuffling while maintaining the "7 schools together for X years" rule.
(03-08-2016 04:03 PM)Erictelevision Wrote: [ -> ]Show us your alignments
Eliminate the 4 weakest. CUSA is incentivized as it gets them down from 14 to a smaller number.
(03-08-2016 04:02 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
No it wouldn't . You have 2 autobids to work with. All you have to do is a little shuffling while maintaining the "7 schools together for X years" rule.
The big problem is all 4 teams you would want to get rid of are Sun Belt teams.
Bottom line it's not happening.
(03-08-2016 04:09 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:02 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
No it wouldn't . You have 2 autobids to work with. All you have to do is a little shuffling while maintaining the "7 schools together for X years" rule.
The big problem is all 4 teams you would want to get rid of are Sun Belt teams.
Bottom line it's not happening.
It would probably have to be 3 SBC and 1 CUSA. I think ark little rock and it Arlington have votes so they would need an Olympic membership to secure a their votes for the ideal football setup.
Plus if the idea surfaces you have to support it as you don't want to be the one getting screwed.
(03-08-2016 04:06 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:03 PM)Erictelevision Wrote: [ -> ]Show us your alignments
Eliminate the 4 weakest. CUSA is incentivized as it gets them down from 14 to a smaller number.
We don't need the Sun Belt to kick out two teams but that's not going to happen either.
(03-08-2016 04:02 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
No it wouldn't . You have 2 autobids to work with. All you have to do is a little shuffling while maintaining the "7 schools together for X years" rule.
Nope.. NCAA already said "NO" to the MWC-CUSA alliance when it was picking up steam, they even said.. "you two will lose an autobid" if you go thorugh with this.
Between the SBC and CUSA, its CUSA East which has the Florida schools which are probably the biggest prize recruiting prize available.
CUSA East + Georgia schools would be a decent 9 team conference. In case the AAC collapsed it would be a good landing spot for ECU or Temple or whatever else school was left behind.
CUSA West then can go to 10 with ULL, AState and TxState.
SBC would be left with only 5 schools in FB and may not be attractive enough to rebuild as a G5 conference.
I know it's March, but the Madness has got to stop!! Some of you guys need to move out of your mom and dad's basement and get a job. These crazy threads are just that...CRAZY!!
New SBC
UTEP
UNT
RICE
TX-SA
ARK-LR
ULM
ULL
LA TECH
TX-ARL
TEXAS ST.
ARK ST.
NEW CUSA
UAB
MTSU
ODU
MARSHALL
CHARLOTTE
WKU
FIU
FAU
USM
GA SO
GA ST.
APP ST.
TROY
Probably the most reasonable way to get the reorganized CUSA/Sun Belt that people here lust over so pervertedly is to have one conference subsume the other, have Eastern and Western conferences that may or may not have divisions, hang tight for however many years the seven teams have to be together, then split back into two. But that's an awful long game for questionable payoff.
(03-08-2016 04:19 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:02 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 04:01 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2016 03:48 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the SBC needs 75% of the the vote to approve changes. If the same is true in CUSA, could 75% of each conference's schools vote to form two 10 school conferences leaving 4 out as independents?
This would allow schools to realign better geographically, increase the revenue per school and eliminate poor performers or those that don't belong in FBS. Plus if the sun belt name is toxic, a new name can be created for the new members similar to what the AAC did.
to do that would force the conferences to dissolve. That would take tourney money back to who earned them, and would also knock out the tv help from the CUSA defectors. It's not happening.
Also remember, the 4 that would be left out would all be Sun Belt teams. That would be 4/12 votes against.
No it wouldn't . You have 2 autobids to work with. All you have to do is a little shuffling while maintaining the "7 schools together for X years" rule.
Nope.. NCAA already said "NO" to the MWC-CUSA alliance when it was picking up steam, they even said.. "you two will lose an autobid" if you go thorugh with this.
That's because CUSA and the MW were merging into one conference. This is just a rearrangement between 2 conferences. They can trade members if they wish. Why would the NCAA care?
That said, you cant kick out 4 members of CUSA because it would take a 75% vote to do so and the 4 members are not going vote to kick themselves out. That leaves you with 10 of 14 votes, or 71%.
You could realign as 2 12-team conferences or a 10-team and one 14-team conference. I'd say just realign in a way that makes sense. The likelihood is one conference being larger may help by giving them more flexibility in setting teams up in tight groups that also keep the right teams together. The idea of trying to leave some teams out just makes the whole process tougher to pull off.
NEW SBC:
Ark St
La Tech
ULL
ULM
NT
Rice
USM
USA
TxSt
UAB
UTEP
UTSA
NEW CUSA:
App
Char
CCU
FAU
FIU
GaSo
GaSt
Marsh
MTSU
ODU
Troy
WKU
(03-08-2016 05:58 PM)CheckYosef94 Wrote: [ -> ]NEW SBC:
Ark St
La Tech
ULL
ULM
NT
Rice
USM
USA
TxSt
UAB
UTEP
UTSA
NEW CUSA:
App
Char
CCU
FAU
FIU
GaSo
GaSt
Marsh
MTSU
ODU
Troy
WKU
Perfect !
(03-08-2016 04:38 PM)TitanTopper Wrote: [ -> ]I know it's March, but the Madness has got to stop!! Some of you guys need to move out of your mom and dad's basement and get a job. These crazy threads are just that...CRAZY!!
Realignment could almost be removed from the name of this board.
Once the Big 12 decides what they are going to do this summer.
Sun Belt board still has fans pining for Missouri state and JMU.
DESPITE the commissioner stating were going to be a ten team conference. How would calling up any school improve the conferences standing short term?
And you have to want them bad enough to share limited revenue.
(03-08-2016 04:44 PM)Erictelevision Wrote: [ -> ]New SBC
UTEP
UNT
RICE
TX-SA
ARK-LR
ULM
ULL
LA TECH
TX-ARL
TEXAS ST.
ARK ST.
NEW CUSA
UAB
MTSU
ODU
MARSHALL
CHARLOTTE
WKU
FIU
FAU
USM
GA SO
GA ST.
APP ST.
TROY
I can't see a reorg happening.
Best chance is a CUSA split. MTSU, WKU, Marshall, USM, UAB all decide they want to play each other in the same conference and bring FAU/FIU with them.
The remaining CUSA schools want a return to at least 12 and go after ULL, USA, Georgia State, Georgia Southern & App State for 2 geographic divisions. Schools that don't find a spot in CUSA will have to play as independents.
In the old sitcom "Frasier" there was an episode where a dead seal keeps washing up on the shore (Puget Sound) of a beach house where the two brothers are trying to have a dinner party. No matter how many times they try to get rid of the dead seal, the tide keeps dragging it back to the same spot, creating a terrible smell at the party.
The constant blather about merging/reshuffling/whatever C-USA and SBC has become like the dead seal that keeps returning to the Realignment shoreline. If only there was someway to get rid of it, once and for all...
CUSA:
Florida Atlantic/Florida International
Georgia Southern/Coastal Carolina
Charlotte/Appalachian State
Western Kentucky/Middle Tennessee
Old Dominion/Marshall
SBC:
South Alabama/Troy
UAB/Georgia State
Louisiana/Southern Miss
Arkansas State/ULM
Texas State/North Texas
Little Rock/Texas-Arlington (non-football)
Independent:
Louisiana Tech
Rice
UTEP
UTSA
The MWC also gets in on the act and runs off Utah State and San Jose State,who along with the four C-USA refugees, New Mexico State, and Idaho, regroup under the WAC banner. The MWC then takes Utah Valley to stand in for Hawaii in all sports other than football. UTRGV starts FBS football within the WAC. Seattle, Bakersfield, and Grand Canyon remain as non-football members. Chicago State and UMKC join the Summit League.