CSNbbs

(08-02-2016 08:29 PM)EagleTough Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 04:26 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]The only name on the list for EMU decommitted, still working instate.

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/a...017-class/

Western & Central are all over that list. EMU.........

Guys like Bullough & Reed already have one foot out the door looking for their next job, so they aren't really giving it 100%. Creighton....meh. Neatherly, no idea. The rest of the staff......??????

Yeah Bullough doesn't seem with it recruiting wise. Have no idea why. He's getting a paycheck. The most active guys I see are Grubb, Haywood and Neatherly. Doesn't help with your recruiting grad assistant has UMass gear all over his twitter. On the more positive side staff has started slow and tends to close strong.

Our 6th commit:

I'm excited to announce that I'm committing to Eastern Michigan university

Sidy Sow

DT OT COUGAR CHAMPLAIN LENNOXVILLE •2x team canada •2x team quebec • 6'5 300lbs http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5138853/high.../336341465 …

Welcome Sidy!

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index....18.html#21

(08-02-2016 08:29 PM)EagleTough Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 04:26 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]The only name on the list for EMU decommitted, still working instate.

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/a...017-class/

Western & Central are all over that list. EMU.........

Guys like Bullough & Reed already have one foot out the door looking for their next job, so they aren't really giving it 100%. Creighton....meh. Neatherly, no idea. The rest of the staff......??????

CMU is always on that list, still alot of Div I FB players in Michigan who aren't committed yet.

(08-03-2016 03:08 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 08:29 PM)EagleTough Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 04:26 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]The only name on the list for EMU decommitted, still working instate.

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/a...017-class/

Western & Central are all over that list. EMU.........

Guys like Bullough & Reed already have one foot out the door looking for their next job, so they aren't really giving it 100%. Creighton....meh. Neatherly, no idea. The rest of the staff......??????

Yeah Bullough doesn't seem with it recruiting wise. Have no idea why. He's getting a paycheck. The most active guys I see are Grubb, Haywood and Neatherly. Doesn't help with your recruiting grad assistant has UMass gear all over his twitter. On the more positive side staff has started slow and tends to close strong.

Bullough should be a really good Michigan recruiter because of his family history and resume. The only reason he's not is because he doesn't care, making no effort, one foot out the door. That goes back to the top, to Creighton and Neatherly, and holding these guys accountable. If he was brought in knowing it was only for a year or two, that's fine. But if we're basically doing you a favor, by giving you a paycheck during your 'transition' phase, you should at least be doing your entire job, and recruiting is a big part.

As I've said, he seems to be a good coach, and the players like him, but the lack of recruiting is a problem.

(08-03-2016 07:53 AM)EagleTough Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-03-2016 03:08 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 08:29 PM)EagleTough Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-02-2016 04:26 PM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]The only name on the list for EMU decommitted, still working instate.

http://highschoolsports.mlive.com/news/a...017-class/

Western & Central are all over that list. EMU.........

Guys like Bullough & Reed already have one foot out the door looking for their next job, so they aren't really giving it 100%. Creighton....meh. Neatherly, no idea. The rest of the staff......??????

Yeah Bullough doesn't seem with it recruiting wise. Have no idea why. He's getting a paycheck. The most active guys I see are Grubb, Haywood and Neatherly. Doesn't help with your recruiting grad assistant has UMass gear all over his twitter. On the more positive side staff has started slow and tends to close strong.

Bullough should be a really good Michigan recruiter because of his family history and resume. The only reason he's not is because he doesn't care, making no effort, one foot out the door. That goes back to the top, to Creighton and Neatherly, and holding these guys accountable. If he was brought in knowing it was only for a year or two, that's fine. But if we're basically doing you a favor, by giving you a paycheck during your 'transition' phase, you should at least be doing your entire job, and recruiting is a big part.

As I've said, he seems to be a good coach, and the players like him, but the lack of recruiting is a problem.

I see Reed doing abit more but hey while we're paying you give it your best you expect the players to give 110% so lead by example in all phases of your job as coach. this program can't afford half ass production or investment on anyone who is connected with the fb program or there won't be a football program. Its a simple as that.

Flushing 2017 CB/WR Nycorta Mabry attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday July 22 http://bit.ly/1H7boAo

Allen Park 2017 QB Antonio Mangiapane attends Eastern Michigan & Concordia, AA camps http://bit.ly/1tUGohX

Byron Area 2018 LB/WR Connor Scribner attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday July 22 http://bit.ly/1w2ZW16

Rockford 2017 FB/RB Nick Isley attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday July 22 http://bit.ly/1pyVyJg

Cass Tech 2018 DB/WR Prentice Barker attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday July 22 http://bit.ly/1Nmg6sF

The D Zone ‏@TheD_Zone · Jul 19

Fremont 2017 OT/DL Cooper Kukal attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1Q4JV4T

Canton 2017 RB/DB Markus Sanders attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1xhy4LP

The D Zone ‏@TheD_Zone · Jul 19

Cabrini 2017 RB/WR Kyle Kessler attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1ohlkkh

The D Zone ‏@TheD_Zone · Jul 18

Madison Heights 2017 TE/DE Bacari Marino attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1RQlevc

The D Zone ‏@TheD_Zone · Jul 18

Madison Heights 2017 TE/DE Bacari Marino attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1RQlevc

The D Zone ‏@TheD_Zone · Jul 18

Madison Heights 2017 TE/DE Bacari Marino attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1RQlevc

Chelsea 2020 OL/DL Maxwell Reyes attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/2a2mkWO


Delta Prep 2019 QB/WR Charles Lake attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/28YWrEp

Lakewood 2017 OL/DL Dane Stambaugh attends Eastern Michigan & Concordia, AA camps this week http://bit.ly/1KMJo7H

Robichaud 2018 WR/DB "ATH" Malik Taylor attends Eastern Michigan and Concordia, Ann Arbor camps this week http://bit.ly/1cwmx1V

Ann Arbor Huron 2017 WR/CB Marquise Johnson attends Eastern Michigan and Concordia, Ann Arbor camps this week http://bit.ly/1Kby8iT

MCC 2017 RB/CB Walker Christoffersen attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday

Chippewa Valley 2017 WR Maurice McBride attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1XVwcol

Portage Central 2017 DE/OT Ian Creech attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/18n0ZTO

River Rouge 2019 OL Dontrell Walker attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1VuklKU

Reese 2017 QB/FS Jacob Galsterer attends Eastern Michigan and Hillsdale camps this week http://bit.ly/1TSWjIo

Salem 2017 DT/OL David Mason III attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday 1 offer http://bit.ly/292uqu3

Woodhaven 2017 LB/FB Kaleb Smith attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/292Gor5

Chelsea 2018 OL/DT Rafael Reyes attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/28Ql333

Jackson 2017 WR/CB RaShawn Parris attends Eastern Michigan camp on Friday http://bit.ly/1X8On92

Warren Lincoln 2017 OL Xavier Aikens attends Eastern Michigan and Concordia, Ann Arbor camps this week http://bit.ly/291Ht0W








actually offered him at the end of May:

LB/SS OK:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3248686/kendall-sweet

Another offer this one from OH LB/SS:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4079405/chri...nsah-wiafe

We have also offered this LB/RB from the Cincy OH area:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2956207/kesean-gamble

video on Canadian TE that we have offered:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1429258/julien-bourassa

See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

(08-12-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

(08-12-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

Of course I'm not a cussing pj of anything the emu fan comments will need to speak for themselves if you go to the thread and read them there is a nice comment that coaches set standards and its up to the player to meet or exceed them

(08-12-2016 07:00 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

Of course I'm not a cussing pj of anything the emu fan comments will need to speak for themselves if you go to the thread and read them there is a nice comment that coaches set standards and its up to the player to meet or exceed them

Quite frankly, I find this discussion pretty much pointless.

WMU has lost members of their recruiting class before their first game but so have we (e.g., Keels plus some JUCOs).

In hoops, Northeastern lost true frosh Ty Groce before fall classes began...

On a more serious note, a recruit Tweeted a copy of a letter which I guess could be called a written/verbal offer to be a member of the 2017 recruiting class.

It is in writing, so it is written, but it is really a written statement of what a verbal commitment is (i.e., until the LOI is signed in Feb everything is simply a verbal agreement between the recruit and school).

It clearly states all of the caveats to how recruiting works (e.g., can't sign until Feb. 2017, max of 85 scholarships, max of 25 per recruiting class and that EMU allocates LOI by position and they are given out until gone, etc.).

As I have been want to say, an offer until accepted means very little.

IF EMU wants say only 1 QB or TE or P in a particular recruiting class, and they make multiple offers at those positions, the first accepted offer at the particular position is considered to gotten it and the other verbal offers are null and void. Or 'the early bird gets the worm.'

This is, of course, why some recruits 'jump' at an offer: "a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush."

I'm

(08-12-2016 08:17 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 07:00 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ][quote='emu79' pid='13466014' dateline='1470990515']
See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

Of course I'm not a cussing pj of anything the emu fan comments will need to speak for themselves if you go to the thread and read them there is a nice comment that coaches set standards and its up to the player to meet or exceed them

Quite frankly, I find this discussion pretty much pointless.

WMU has lost members of their recruiting class before their first game but so have we (e.g., Keels plus some JUCOs).

In hoops, Northeastern lost true frosh Ty Groce before fall classes began...
[/quote
Then go back to your cave. I am very aware other programs lose players too and emu isn't unique which is why I posted it in the first place. Next time I use bread crumbs so you can follow steve

(08-12-2016 07:00 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 03:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

Of course I'm not a cussing pj of anything the wmu
fan comments will need to speak for themselves if you go to the thread and read them there is a nice comment that coaches set standards and its up to the player to meet or exceed them

Non-story, common everywhere. If we could only recruit at half the level Fleck does, we might build an average team.

(08-12-2016 09:12 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm

(08-12-2016 08:17 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 07:00 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-12-2016 05:18 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ][quote='emu79' pid='13466014' dateline='1470990515']
See July roster thread on WMU Football and comment after this M Live article. It seems that some WMU fans think PJ Fleck "games" the system recruiting rankings.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2...iver_index

????????

I'm not sure what to make of it.

If I lived in a cave, and not read this (our) forum I'd say: "That's terrible" but we have lost a lot of players too.

My gut reaction is that as football teams approach 100 members, that a certain amount of attrition is normal.

Drawing an analogy to basketball, the 'average' D-I basketball team might lose 20% of its roster to transfer or quit in a season.

As far as 'gaming' the ranking system: Not sure what that means. Teams try to get commits and sign as many talented recruits as possible.

Of course I'm not a cussing pj of anything the emu fan comments will need to speak for themselves if you go to the thread and read them there is a nice comment that coaches set standards and its up to the player to meet or exceed them

Quite frankly, I find this discussion pretty much pointless.

WMU has lost members of their recruiting class before their first game but so have we (e.g., Keels plus some JUCOs).

In hoops, Northeastern lost true frosh Ty Groce before fall classes began...
[/quote
Then go back to your cave. I am very aware other programs lose players too and emu isn't unique which is why I posted it in the first place. Next time I use bread crumbs so you can follow steve

Cave isn't a bad place to be: real feel outside is around 105+.

New verbal from Florida WR Gregory Jean. Other offers from NC State, BGSU, Fresno State, and some FCS programs.

https://twitter.com/florida__boii/status...6140888064

http://www.scout.com/player/208434-grego...?year=2016

(08-14-2016 03:26 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote: [ -> ]New verbal from Florida WR Gregory Jean. Other offers NC State, BGSU, Fresno State, and some FCS programs.

https://twitter.com/florida__boii/status...6140888064

http://www.scout.com/player/208434-grego...?year=2016

That's some decent schools - good catch for CC