Be very wary of following Withers. He is already looking for his next job after Texas State. have your parents look at his resume with you and evaluate how long he has stayed at each school. Past patterns dictate future actions. He will not be at TX state more than 1-2 years and will either be fired, or move on while the "getting is good". He'll leave it in a "better place" than he found it, and get out of there as fast as he can.
I'm sorry that Matthews staying at JMU for 14 years blinded you to how college football really works. Like every other profession on Earth, college football coaches come and go. It is not a lifetime appointment.
Fans at pretty much every other university in America understand this. Recruits are well aware that a coach might not be there all 4-5 years that they're in school.
Everyone at Texas State is well aware that the best case scenario for Withers is that he is successful enough that in 2-3 years he will be getting offers from bigger schools. This is the way things work in college football.
Nick Saban and Art Briles were getting offers to go be the Texas head coach. They stayed put because despite the money, they felt they were in a better situation to win and be successful/happy where they were at. No coach has ever passed on a better offer because they felt obligated to the school, the fans, or the athletes. Just you like you in your respective careers, you have to chose what what is best for you - not your company, your boss, or your clients.
Despite what you might think, Texas State is a better job than JMU...bigger and better university, bigger athletic budget, bigger and faster growing market, better facilities, etc.
Time to grow up and quit acting like a bunch of entitled children.
(01-07-2016 02:38 PM)tx.state Wrote: [ -> ]OPEN LETTER TO ALL JMU FANS:
I'm sorry that Matthews staying at JMU for 14 years blinded you to how college football really works. Like every other profession on Earth, college football coaches come and go. It is not a lifetime appointment.
Fans at pretty much every other university in America understand this. Recruits are well aware that a coach might not be there all 4-5 years that they're in school.
Everyone at Texas State is well aware that the best case scenario for Withers is that he is successful enough that in 2-3 years he will be getting offers from bigger schools. This is the way things work in college football.
Nick Saban and Art Briles were getting offers to go be the Texas head coach. They stayed put because despite the money, they felt they were in a better situation to win and be successful/happy where they were at. No coach has ever passed on a better offer because they felt obligated to the school, the fans, or the athletes. Just you like you in your respective careers, you have to chose what what is best for you - not your company, your boss, or your clients.
Despite what you might think, Texas State is a better job than JMU...bigger and better university, bigger athletic budget, bigger and faster growing market, better facilities, etc.
Time to grow up and quit acting like a bunch of entitled children.
We can debate about Tx State potentially being a better HC job. But there is no way on God's Green Earth that Texas St is a better University and JMU.......that is comical to even suggest and pretty much shows your aptitude and ignorance.
(01-07-2016 02:38 PM)tx.state Wrote: [ -> ]OPEN LETTER TO ALL JMU FANS:
I'm sorry that Matthews staying at JMU for 14 years blinded you to how college football really works. Like every other profession on Earth, college football coaches come and go. It is not a lifetime appointment.
Fans at pretty much every other university in America understand this. Recruits are well aware that a coach might not be there all 4-5 years that they're in school.
Everyone at Texas State is well aware that the best case scenario for Withers is that he is successful enough that in 2-3 years he will be getting offers from bigger schools. This is the way things work in college football.
Nick Saban and Art Briles were getting offers to go be the Texas head coach. They stayed put because despite the money, they felt they were in a better situation to win and be successful/happy where they were at. No coach has ever passed on a better offer because they felt obligated to the school, the fans, or the athletes. Just you like you in your respective careers, you have to chose what what is best for you - not your company, your boss, or your clients.
Despite what you might think, Texas State is a better job than JMU...bigger and better university, bigger athletic budget, bigger and faster growing market, better facilities, etc.
Time to grow up and quit acting like a bunch of entitled children.
ha ha
Translation: "why aren't you guys taking us seriously... we're FBS.. we're awesome, i'm super cereal"
(01-07-2016 02:38 PM)tx.state Wrote: [ -> ]OPEN LETTER TO ALL JMU FANS:
I'm sorry that Matthews staying at JMU for 14 years blinded you to how college football really works. Like every other profession on Earth, college football coaches come and go. It is not a lifetime appointment.
Fans at pretty much every other university in America understand this. Recruits are well aware that a coach might not be there all 4-5 years that they're in school.
Everyone at Texas State is well aware that the best case scenario for Withers is that he is successful enough that in 2-3 years he will be getting offers from bigger schools. This is the way things work in college football.
Nick Saban and Art Briles were getting offers to go be the Texas head coach. They stayed put because despite the money, they felt they were in a better situation to win and be successful/happy where they were at. No coach has ever passed on a better offer because they felt obligated to the school, the fans, or the athletes. Just you like you in your respective careers, you have to chose what what is best for you - not your company, your boss, or your clients.
Despite what you might think, Texas State is a better job than JMU...bigger and better university, bigger athletic budget, bigger and faster growing market, better facilities, etc.
Time to grow up and quit acting like a bunch of entitled children.
We understand he wants to boost his career...
We're just confused as to why he went to Texas State and not a more reputable institution, like DeVry University.
(01-07-2016 02:38 PM)tx.state Wrote: [ -> ]OPEN LETTER TO ALL JMU FANS:
I'm sorry that Matthews staying at JMU for 14 years blinded you to how college football really works. Like every other profession on Earth, college football coaches come and go. It is not a lifetime appointment.
Fans at pretty much every other university in America understand this. Recruits are well aware that a coach might not be there all 4-5 years that they're in school.
Everyone at Texas State is well aware that the best case scenario for Withers is that he is successful enough that in 2-3 years he will be getting offers from bigger schools. This is the way things work in college football.
Nick Saban and Art Briles were getting offers to go be the Texas head coach. They stayed put because despite the money, they felt they were in a better situation to win and be successful/happy where they were at. No coach has ever passed on a better offer because they felt obligated to the school, the fans, or the athletes. Just you like you in your respective careers, you have to chose what what is best for you - not your company, your boss, or your clients.
Despite what you might think, Texas State is a better job than JMU...bigger and better university, bigger athletic budget, bigger and faster growing market, better facilities, etc.
Time to grow up and quit acting like a bunch of entitled children.
We understand he wants to boost his career...
We're just confused as to why he went to Texas State and not a more reputable institution, like DeVry University.
Withers to prospective student athlete: "How would you like to be a player at Texas...."
Athlete: "Absolutely!!"
Withers:"....State?"
Athlete: "Oh, no thanks, I got a full ride at University of Phoenix."
People have been moaning about how our administration should keeps its word about scholarships. Honestly, having Withers want to "poach" recruits is the best thing for the students. Let the next guy recruit against Withers or find his own guys. Withers did a lot of nice things for JMU and I wish him the best. I will also say that after two less than stellar post seasons, I'm kind of excited to see what the next guy can do. Go Dukes!
(01-07-2016 05:26 PM)JMU08 Wrote: [ -> ]People have been moaning about how our administration should keeps its word about scholarships. Honestly, having Withers want to "poach" recruits is the best thing for the students. Let the next guy recruit against Withers or find his own guys. Withers did a lot of nice things for JMU and I wish him the best. I will also say that after two less than stellar post seasons, I'm kind of excited to see what the next guy can do. Go Dukes!
Agree. The one thing I can say is that Withers didn't ruin our program. I would say he made it more appealing. He showed that winning is possible here and we have the ability to get talented players here. EW called our school a "gold mine". Just a shame he got blinded with fools gold elsewhere.
My hope is to get a guy as good, if not better, than the coach before. I really hope they don't disappoint.
This hire will be a HUGE statement to our fan base and I really hope they know that.
The TxSt fan who started this thread is clueless about the merits of TxSt vs. JMU.
Here's a reality check. 1) EW was TxSt's 4th choice for HC...no decent coach wanted to touch the job; 2) EW is all about EW and he simply jumped on the opportunity to more than double his salary; 3) EW doesn't give a crap about TxSt and FBS, any more than he's cared about any of his previous Coaching stops, and 4) if (by some miracle) EW turns the mess in San Marcos around he'll be gone in 2 years, but 5) more likely than not, TxSt just bought themselves $3.5 million and 5 years worth of "juice" and few wins, leading to EW being canned.
(01-08-2016 12:36 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]The TxSt fan who started this thread is clueless about the merits of TxSt vs. JMU.
Here's a reality check. 1) EW was TxSt's 4th choice for HC...no decent coach wanted to touch the job; 2) EW is all about EW and he simply jumped on the opportunity to more than double his salary; 3) EW doesn't give a crap about TxSt and FBS, any more than he's cared about any of his previous Coaching stops, and 4) if (by some miracle) EW turns the mess in San Marcos around he'll be gone in 2 years, but 5) more likely than not, TxSt just bought themselves $3.5 million and 5 years worth of "juice" and few wins, leading to EW being canned.
Longhorn, sorry but even IF we assume all reports are true, which is FAR from a sure thing, given that no one that was "covering" this for TxSt had any clue that Everett Withers was even a candidates. And they where contradicting each other who who the candidates actually where even. With one saying someone is one of the 6 finalist, and another saying that this coach had yet to even hear from TxSt. But, even if all the reports are true, EW was our 3rd choice, NOT 4th. And Doug Meachum (who would have been our second choice, if ESPN is correct in its sources and other rumors are correct), was interested, they just could not agree on MONEY, likely because Texas A&M is likely about to give him over a million dollars to become its new OC.
And it should be noted, that our AD was asked about the report that we offered Doug Meachum the job, and he said that report was false. Was it AD speak, most likely YES, if I had to guess, yes I think we DID offer Meachum the job. But the only source we have on this is an ESPN tweeting a source said so. While ESPN is good, they have certainly been known to tweet things that sources say are done, that are not.
(01-08-2016 12:36 AM)Longhorn Wrote: [ -> ]The TxSt fan who started this thread is clueless about the merits of TxSt vs. JMU.
Here's a reality check. 1) EW was TxSt's 4th choice for HC...no decent coach wanted to touch the job; 2) EW is all about EW and he simply jumped on the opportunity to more than double his salary; 3) EW doesn't give a crap about TxSt and FBS, any more than he's cared about any of his previous Coaching stops, and 4) if (by some miracle) EW turns the mess in San Marcos around he'll be gone in 2 years, but 5) more likely than not, TxSt just bought themselves $3.5 million and 5 years worth of "juice" and few wins, leading to EW being canned.
I assume you're addressing me, but I didn't start this thread.
I completely understand the realities of college football coaching changes. You guys are the ones that are struggling with it. Although I already stated it above, I'll go through it again.
I am completely at ease with the fact that EW is in it for EW. He is not a fan and he is not an alumn. He owes nothing to this university. He is a football coach, and he gets paid to win football games. I don't care that he doesn't give a crap about TXST/FBS. All I care about is that he wins football games.
I hope that he wins so many games in the first 2 or 3 years that he does get bigger and better offers. That is the best case scenario. A win for TXST, and a win for EW. He can go get paid big again, and we can go find the next guy.
Our AD stated yesterday that EW was the only person offered that they offered the job to so I'm not sure where you're getting your first point (4th choice). I don't know why you're stating it as fact, as if you really know. Another college football coaching change tip: you cannot believe everything you read on twitter/footballscoop.
I know the timing sucks for you guys, for that I am empathetic...but there is only one person to blame for that and its not EW...its Dennis Franchione for waiting 3 weeks after the season to step down. Nobody at TXST was happy about it but its the reality we live in.
The trolling of EW and TXST on twitter is making JMU look really bad. Grow up, kids.
