http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/coll...ctive.html
Parts of this to note includes:
The part where it says that the mayor-elect has handed off the stadium issue to the city council rep from the Temple area.
Temple is working on parking, traffic and other concerns that the neighbors have and things are moving forward.
Also at the bottom note that last years seniors from the 6-6 team that got snubbed by the bowl committee got invited this year as Temple guest ...
Houston put out the design job for bid in Jan 2012 for a stadium that opened in August 2014. A process of about 31 months.
Doesn't sound like Temple is close to putting the design job up for bid yet. More fundraising and negotiations with neighbors need to happen first.
But if Temple can put the job up for bid on or before Jan 2017, then the stadium should be ready for the 2019 season.
(12-23-2015 07:10 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ]Houston put out the design job for bid in Jan 2012 for a stadium that opened in August 2014. A process of about 31 months.
Doesn't sound like Temple is close to putting the design job up for bid yet. More fundraising and negotiations with neighbors need to happen first.
But if Temple can put the job up for bid on or before Jan 2017, then the stadium should be ready for the 2019 season.
Univ of Houston starting to plan for their stadium in 2009...and in Feb 2010, hired AECOM to come up with new stadium options.
http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/arti...609089.php
A lot of work/feasibility studies, etc...go into new project plans like this, well before final bids for construction are ever sent out.
Temple already has an agreement with the Eagles to extend thru 2018 and 2019 if needed.
So the latest date to have it ready would be Fall of 2020. But I am sure that Temple would like to stop paying the Eagles rent asap which would be 2018.
Virtually no chance Temple has a new stadium by 2018.
Classy move by the administration to get the last senior class down to the bowl game
Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
(12-23-2015 11:01 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
if it opens in 2019...and the Eagles deal ends in 2018...Temple could just play at Franklin or PPL for one season...it would be worth the minor inconvenience to have your own place.
that said, even if it's just a year, I'm sure the Eagles wouldn't want to miss out on some easy rent...and would work out a one year deal with Temple...JMHO
Most of the large campus projects here take about two years or less after groundbreaking.
So we would need a groundbreaking in August to make the 2018 season.
Looks more like the stadium won't be finished until 2019 or 2020.
But 2018 is not impossible.
I'm going to guess 2020 is more realistic. Trying to build such an major project in Philly is nothing like the res of the country save NY/NJ. If I remember this correctly, the state of PA approved/supported new stadiums for both Pittsburg and Philadelphia at the same time. Heinz Field opened before a shovel was in the ground in Philadelphia. The delay was all over local politics. I can't imagine Temple will have more pull to get its stadium built on a tighter time line.
Temple needs their stadium on site and will grow from being out of the vapid expanse that is south Philly and the Linc. My question is, having driven and run through the area many times before, which exact neighbors are complaining and how many expressed their distaste with small arms fire?
While I jest...a good project could really help the area, not hurt it. All growth takes time and involves some pain, but the local pop could use the economic bump.
(12-23-2015 07:11 PM)Philly Brian Wrote: [ -> ]Most of the large campus projects here take about two years or less after groundbreaking.
So we would need a groundbreaking in August to make the 2018 season.
Looks more like the stadium won't be finished until 2019 or 2020.
But 2018 is not impossible.
But it is....as no way will Temple complete everything needed (let alone all the financing, city/county approvals, send out bids/select winners, etc...) all by this August.
For most stadium/arena projects...the planning, design, environment studies, negotiations with city/county/neighborhoods, and then approvals, etc...take longer than the actual construction of the stadium.
(12-23-2015 11:01 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
The "community"?
What I tried to say is that a stadium by the Fall of 2018 is not likely, however it is not impossible.
I say this because Temple has already quietly performed a good deal of background work for this stadium. It's possible that they have enough things done already that they could break ground by the Fall.
The problem is that Temple is not saying much about what they have done so far.
Also I should add that many projects in the city get built really fast. It's mostly a matter of having the financing ready to go and good weather. It only took them about two years to throw up a $200 million dorm.
A basic stadium could be built rather quickly. Now that Temple has decided to take the payments that normally go to the Eagles and put them towards the stadium, the stadium will be fast tracked.
(12-24-2015 04:55 PM)No Bull Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2015 11:01 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
The "community"?
Always the community. We are about to go through this ourselves. Some may be well meaning and have valid concerns about the neighborhood(s). But there is always an element that is looking at the situation as a cash opportunity .
(12-26-2015 10:53 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2015 04:55 PM)No Bull Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2015 11:01 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
The "community"?
Always the community. We are about to go through this ourselves. Some may be well meaning and have valid concerns about the neighborhood(s). But there is always an element that is looking at the situation as a cash opportunity .
Transforming Turner field into a football stadium and athletic village will be great for GSU and nearby residents... why on earth someone would have an issue with it is beyond me...
(12-26-2015 05:19 PM)No Bull Wrote: [ -> ] (12-26-2015 10:53 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2015 04:55 PM)No Bull Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2015 11:01 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: [ -> ]Constructing a stadium in the city like that is night and day compared to construction a stadium in a big open area like they did in Houston. Have to think the construction period will be longer in Temple's case.
I would think they need the design to go out by Sept '16 for a Sept '19 opening. Believe someone said a street needed to be closed by the City as well. Should be procedural since Temple owns both sides, but watch the no stadium crowd jump all over that one.
The "community"?
Always the community. We are about to go through this ourselves. Some may be well meaning and have valid concerns about the neighborhood(s). But there is always an element that is looking at the situation as a cash opportunity .
Transforming Turner field into a football stadium and athletic village will be great for GSU and nearby residents... why on earth someone would have an issue with it is beyond me...
Because...people...