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(12-08-2015 11:46 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:27 AM)runninjoe Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:22 AM)moehler Wrote: [ -> ]idiots isn't a strong enough word, thanks for letting your team down and perhaps ruining your shot a the NFL, question, does this mean they will not play in the bowl game?

Just for the record most people have a different view than me on this but our drug laws are an utter failure.

Not a Corrections Corporation of America shareholder? CXW currently trading at 24.89

It's always been a money grab. The discrepancy in laws from state to state is astounding as well, from full legalization to a felony for small amounts. I'm all for state's rights which is why this doesn't bother me so much. It is a sad day when being caught with 2 grams of marijuana is considered more serious than DUI, even when a person is blowing more than twice the legal limit.

When getting a job or searching for apartments, employers will disqualify someone much sooner for simple possession of marijuana than they will for a DUI.

However, for the most part the Mid-West and plain state's laws on marijuana are manifested in the 1930's when the demonization of immigrants from Central and South America was in full force.

Mind you I do believe more in state sovereignty than federal regulation. It's up to the legislators to understand this.

That said, these guys were caught with cocaine and it may be better now for them than further down the road that they were caught. More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

According the University Police report, Both players admitted to using Cocaine. They're done.

The coincidence here is Stone is probably going to be first team all conference when the team comes out tomorrow. Coaches voted on this just a couple hours before he got arrested. Hopefully someone gets a hold of the conference office and drops his name for someone more deserving.

Hate to hear this. It could happen to any of our teams so I hope there is no gloating from non-Ark St fans.

Just sux going into the bowl for Red Wolf fans

(12-08-2015 11:42 AM)deb025 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:32 AM)runninjoe Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:19 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]at least Benson won't be able to keep him from playing now.

They are Seniors, so the good news is we lose them after this next game anyway. Rumor is they were busted while hanging out with a former player that Anderson had kicked off this summer for drug use, after being specifically warned to stay away from him.

i haven't seen what they were charged with but if it was weed then it's something the majority of college kids at least try and that many partake in just like college kids drink. i don't smoke but i know many responsible people that do. it would surprise you at times which of your co-workers and neighbors smoke on occasion.

i believe it will eventually be legal in the rest of the states. it's not the issue it was during nancy reagan's war.

i'm not advocating handing out weed during freshman orientation. i just believe it's much ado about nothing in this country.

if all the bowls piss tested every single player RIGHT NOW there would be a lot of bowl matchups with tons of players missing.

Most likely Coke less than 2 gs

I just looked up their mugshots on the County jail website. Man that Trosin kid is one ugly mofo. Idiots, what the hell were they thinking?

. . . Uuuuhhhhhh, like many kids this age, they weren't (thinking). . . . .

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

(12-08-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]The coincidence here is Stone is probably going to be first team all conference when the team comes out tomorrow. Coaches voted on this just a couple hours before he got arrested. Hopefully someone gets a hold of the conference office and drops his name for someone more deserving.

Hope so. An award isn't going to do him much good at the moment.

(12-08-2015 01:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]According the University Police report, Both players admitted to using Cocaine. They're done.

The coincidence here is Stone is probably going to be first team all conference when the team comes out tomorrow. Coaches voted on this just a couple hours before he got arrested. Hopefully someone gets a hold of the conference office and drops his name for someone more deserving.

I'm sure Benson had his Jonesboro police scanner on 24/7. I'm sure he's on top of it.
He'll probably hand deliver a new list.

In all probability some of this goes on with every college football program. Who knows how long these guys got away with it before this morning.

(12-08-2015 01:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

One of them has a future as an NFL player and you think his playing days should be over because he was caught with a small amount of a drug? It would be in his best interest to continue to play while being on supervised probation while having to attend substance abuse counseling weekly.

This shouldn't be something to end someones career.

Man, the attitude toward these types of things is far different in that part of the country than it is here. Then again, it may also be my age. I'm just shocked that anyone would think that his playing days should be over for admitting to cocaine use. (See any 1990's NFL team and more than likely many college programs)

(12-08-2015 02:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

One of them has a future as an NFL player and you think his playing days should be over because he was caught with a small amount of a drug? It would be in his best interest to continue to play while being on supervised probation while having to attend substance abuse counseling weekly.

This shouldn't be something to end someones career.

1) They are seniors and their last game is the NO Bowl which they will not be attending.

2) There is no future in the NFL for a good...but marginal...player arrested for cocaine/meth. Scouts will move on to the next man on the list.

So their football careers are over....they should steer toward real life without football associations.

(12-08-2015 02:03 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]Man, the attitude toward these types of things is far different in that part of the country than it is here. Then again, it may also be my age. I'm just shocked that anyone would think that his playing days should be over for admitting to cocaine use. (See any 1990's NFL team and more than likely many college programs)

It's not attitude, it is reality. They have no college eligibility. The NFL has plenty of players available with similar skills that do not have cocaine busts. That chance is gone. Football is over for them no matter what any of us do or say.

Really hate to see this and hope these kids get probation and some type of counseling instead of jail time if they were simply in procession and no intent to distribute. There are way too many people in jail for simple use that would be better served on probation and doing community service while getting counseling. This really sux for the football team as it's a distraction they don't need while preparing for their bowl game. Really poor judgement and timing by these two.

(12-08-2015 11:42 AM)deb025 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:32 AM)runninjoe Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:19 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]at least Benson won't be able to keep him from playing now.

They are Seniors, so the good news is we lose them after this next game anyway. Rumor is they were busted while hanging out with a former player that Anderson had kicked off this summer for drug use, after being specifically warned to stay away from him.

i haven't seen what they were charged with but if it was weed then it's something the majority of college kids at least try and that many partake in just like college kids drink. i don't smoke but i know many responsible people that do. it would surprise you at times which of your co-workers and neighbors smoke on occasion.

i believe it will eventually be legal in the rest of the states. it's not the issue it was during nancy reagan's war.

i'm not advocating handing out weed during freshman orientation. i just believe it's much ado about nothing in this country.

if all the bowls piss tested every single player RIGHT NOW there would be a lot of bowl matchups with tons of players missing.

Most likely Coke less than 2 gs

I just looked up their mugshots on the County jail website. Man that Trosin kid is one ugly mofo. Idiots, what the hell were they thinking?

Go back and look, nearly every horrible disaster on offense and special teams happened with Trosin or he was nearby. Dude is bad luck.

Hate Stone screwed up.

That's what happens when you hang out with someone the mean old stick in the mud coaches specifically told you to avoid.

They are seniors and they are done.

(12-08-2015 01:30 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: [ -> ]Hate to hear this. It could happen to any of our teams so I hope there is no gloating from non-Ark St fans.

Just sux going into the bowl for Red Wolf fans

Any school that hasn't been there is a school covering it up.

As I've said for years, the measure of a program isn't how many get in trouble, its what the school does when they get in trouble. Cajuns wasted no time when the dudes were playing Green Acres on the apartment balcony. That's how you deal with it.

(12-08-2015 02:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

One of them has a future as an NFL player and you think his playing days should be over because he was caught with a small amount of a drug? It would be in his best interest to continue to play while being on supervised probation while having to attend substance abuse counseling weekly.

This shouldn't be something to end someones career.

Anyone remember Steve Howe?

When that guy pitched for the Yankees, they couldn't keep white lines on the field . .

(12-08-2015 02:04 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 02:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

One of them has a future as an NFL player and you think his playing days should be over because he was caught with a small amount of a drug? It would be in his best interest to continue to play while being on supervised probation while having to attend substance abuse counseling weekly.

This shouldn't be something to end someones career.

1) They are seniors and their last game is the NO Bowl which they will not be attending.

2) There is no future in the NFL for a good...but marginal...player arrested for cocaine/meth. Scouts will move on to the next man on the list.

So their football careers are over....they should steer toward real life without football associations.

Cocaine and marijuana? Cocaine is bad but once again, this is not meth. Unless it is cut with meth which is highly unlikely as that costs money, I don't see a way in which the use of a drug can justify the removal of their chance at a career. The days of lock em' up and throw away the key are soon to be over as the path toward rehabilitation really starts to take hold. Assuming the one with the future in the NFL can keep his nose clean, he will get a shot as an UDFA. (That's what agents are for)

A funny thing happens once you are out of college. The real world becomes all the more real, and hopefully each one of them realizes that with the help of others, this can be put behind them and they can continue to move toward whatever goals they had in the first place.

(12-08-2015 02:56 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 02:04 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 02:01 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:31 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 01:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]More than likely they will be put into an intervention program and will hopefully be able to steer their focus toward education and football.

I'd stick with just education. Their football days are over.

One of them has a future as an NFL player and you think his playing days should be over because he was caught with a small amount of a drug? It would be in his best interest to continue to play while being on supervised probation while having to attend substance abuse counseling weekly.

This shouldn't be something to end someones career.

1) They are seniors and their last game is the NO Bowl which they will not be attending.

2) There is no future in the NFL for a good...but marginal...player arrested for cocaine/meth. Scouts will move on to the next man on the list.

So their football careers are over....they should steer toward real life without football associations.

Cocaine and marijuana? Cocaine is bad but once again, this is not meth. Unless it is cut with meth which is highly unlikely as that costs money, I don't see a way in which the use of a drug can justify the removal of their chance at a career. The days of lock em' up and throw away the key are soon to be over as the path toward rehabilitation really starts to take hold. Assuming the one with the future in the NFL can keep his nose clean, he will get a shot as an UDFA. (That's what agents are for)

A funny thing happens once you are out of college. The real world becomes all the more real, and hopefully each one of them realizes that with the help of others, this can be put behind them and they can continue to move toward whatever goals they had in the first place.

I think the overall point isn't that getting popped for drugs blacklists you from the NFL. To be blunt, it's that the player isn't good enough to warrant consideration following this incident. He's good, but let's not kid ourselves, he isn't the best in his position in all of CFB. There are 10 or more players as good or better. Stone's chance will go to one of them.

If you are a can't miss player, long as you aren't custody all is good in the NFL. If you are one of many at a talent level, well there's no place for bad behavior in the NFL if you are average.

(12-08-2015 11:42 AM)deb025 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:32 AM)runninjoe Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:30 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:22 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2015 11:19 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ]at least Benson won't be able to keep him from playing now.

They are Seniors, so the good news is we lose them after this next game anyway. Rumor is they were busted while hanging out with a former player that Anderson had kicked off this summer for drug use, after being specifically warned to stay away from him.

i haven't seen what they were charged with but if it was weed then it's something the majority of college kids at least try and that many partake in just like college kids drink. i don't smoke but i know many responsible people that do. it would surprise you at times which of your co-workers and neighbors smoke on occasion.

i believe it will eventually be legal in the rest of the states. it's not the issue it was during nancy reagan's war.

i'm not advocating handing out weed during freshman orientation. i just believe it's much ado about nothing in this country.

if all the bowls piss tested every single player RIGHT NOW there would be a lot of bowl matchups with tons of players missing.

Most likely Coke less than 2 gs

I just looked up their mugshots on the County jail website. Man that Trosin kid is one ugly mofo. Idiots, what the hell were they thinking?

Several years ago, we had a player suspended the week before one of our national championship games, maybe the first one, can't remember. He was by all accounts, a fine kid but rules are rules. One of our best D-backs at the time. He was also a senior. Hope whatever he did was worth it because it cost him the incredible experience of winning a national championship.