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Still employer at Drexel?

Has not had a good year since 11/12.

This is their primary sport. How do they let this continue?

They have had bad seasons 2 of the last 3 years and start 0-6 this year.

Come on Drexel - show some pride....
He keeps coming up with excuses for the bad seasons, mainly that they have a thin bench because they pretty much always lose at least 1 player to a season-ending injury. It's pointless for him to be fired now, since a full time head coach can't be hired until after the season. But either way, he's gotta go soon. The entire conference would be ranked so much better if Drexel wasn't pulling us down. At the end of the season, they need to fire him, the entire coaching staff, all the athletic trainers since clearly what they're doing isn't working with so many players getting injured, and potentially fire the AD as well for keeping Loser Flint around for so long.
According to Wiki, he's got a .590 CAA record with only two losing seasons in conference since 2001. He had a .650 record within the A-10 at UMass....again per Wiki.
I think Bruiser is a solid coach- the time may come to turn the page but he has had a lot of bad luck over the last couple of seasons in terms of injuries and then the Lee defection. When he was good- he was real good- at the apex of the CAA his teams got hosed a few times in terms of an at large- didn't one of his teams win 29 games? I think you buy yourself some time when you have proven you can be successful at that level.
(11-30-2015 05:21 PM)GoJMUDukes Wrote: [ -> ]He keeps coming up with excuses for the bad seasons, mainly that they have a thin bench because they pretty much always lose at least 1 player to a season-ending injury. It's pointless for him to be fired now, since a full time head coach can't be hired until after the season. But either way, he's gotta go soon. The entire conference would be ranked so much better if Drexel wasn't pulling us down. At the end of the season, they need to fire him, the entire coaching staff, all the athletic trainers since clearly what they're doing isn't working with so many players getting injured, and potentially fire the AD as well for keeping Loser Flint around for so long.

More seasons than not (post Lefty), that could be said of us. While they may be struggling now and last year as well, they still have not finished below .500 in conference in any year since 07-08. I'd bet their computer ratings have been consistently above the CAA average too. Perhaps it's more accurate to say they are not boosting the CAA as they usually do.

Injuries to players are a mystery. We went through some horrible stretches w/ injured b-ball players as well. It was almost like we recruited guys who were damaged goods. Maybe it's Bruiser's style of play that makes them susceptible or they're taking chances on players w/ above average skills that are injury risks?

It may be time for a change- not sure what the pulse of the Drexel fans is. But when you're the 6th team in the "Big 5", they could do a lot worse than Flint.
We're having this discussion on the UNCW board as well. Bruiser's style of play doesn't work with the way they're calling games now, but he is either unwilling or unable to adapt. His teams like physical, low-scoring play. The NCAA wants free-flowing, high scoring games. These are diametrically opposing styles, and the NCAA isn't going back to the old way of doing things.

It's adapt or die at this point for Bruiser and other coaches who were used to winning by turning games into slugfests. I don't foresee Bruiser making wholesale changes to his approach in Year 15 of his tenure.
Good points Seahawk.
Drexel will never be able to get a coach better than Bruiser. What he has done there is miraculous. Worst facility in the CAA or maybe even Division 1. They should name the court after him, give him a big raise and a lifetime contract.
(12-01-2015 09:24 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]Drexel will never be able to get a coach better than Bruiser. What he has done there is miraculous. Worst facility in the CAA or maybe even Division 1. They should name the court after him, give him a big raise and a lifetime contract.

There's always a young and hungry assistant coach out there willing to take the reins of a D-I program, no matter what facility it plays in. Bruiser looks burnt out, and he's a dinosaur in the 2015 NCAA landscape. It's a good time for a change.
9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

i love how you are critical of brady but heap praise on bruiser.
(12-01-2015 09:54 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

i love how you are critical of brady but heap praise on bruiser.

I thought we were talking about Bruiser and his situation. I rarely ever comment on Brady anymore. I like Matt personally.
(12-01-2015 09:10 AM)fanofallthatisjmu Wrote: [ -> ]Me and Bruiser are BFFs. He offered me a job once

I think you meant Larry flint, you are a BFF with Larry flint, not bruiser flint
(12-01-2015 09:58 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2015 09:54 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

i love how you are critical of brady but heap praise on bruiser.

I thought we were talking about Bruiser and his situation. I rarely ever comment on Brady anymore. I like Matt personally.

my mistake maybe, i thought for some reason you had a very strong opinion brady has to go before the end of the season
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

It doesn't matter if Bruiser can recruit if the players he brings in are never available. Every season someone gets hurt or dismissed from the program, leaving them with about 8 bodies. Whether that's because of bad recruiting or a poor strength/conditioning/training staff, something is fundamentally wrong with the program that can't solely be blamed on the school's location and budget. You can't just get a lifetime contract when this is the product on the floor every season.

The program also should not be so afraid that they can't find a good coach that you let a lackluster one hang around. That's a loser mentality. Just about any program in the country can be fixed with the right hires. The best thing to do when you're headed down the wrong path is to turn around so as to reduce the time it takes to get back to where you were. Continuing down the wrong path year after year will just get them further and further lost in the new landscape. The bottom is dropping out right now.
(12-01-2015 09:10 AM)fanofallthatisjmu Wrote: [ -> ]Me and Bruiser are BFFs. He offered me a job once

"GFY" is considered a job offer these days?!?

Who knew? 03-thumbsup
(12-01-2015 04:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2015 09:10 AM)fanofallthatisjmu Wrote: [ -> ]Me and Bruiser are BFFs. He offered me a job once

"GFY" is considered a job offer these days?!?

Who knew? 03-thumbsup

Quick, where is the LIKE button?
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

Keep in mind that Bill Herrion recruited Malik Rose and some other talent to Drexel in the mid 90s- they made the NCAA tournament 3 years in a row and upset Memphis in Rose's senior year. I agree that it's a high school gym but they are in Philadelphia- ton of local talent to draw from. Those NCAA teams were their last when they played in the American East- I believe that the championship game for that conference at the time was on the home floor of the higher seed- I remember watching a few of those games on ESPN. Bruiser joined after they moved to the CAA- they've had some good teams and some good talent continue to come through and if he left and they found the right coach who could tap into the local recruiting area I think they could continue to do well despite their facilities.
Only five years ago they won 29 games. This is not ancient history.
(12-01-2015 10:34 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-01-2015 09:43 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]9 out of 10 coaches would fail at Drexel. They wouldn't be able to recruit to that place. Bruiser can.

It doesn't matter if Bruiser can recruit if the players he brings in are never available. Every season someone gets hurt or dismissed from the program, leaving them with about 8 bodies. Whether that's because of bad recruiting or a poor strength/conditioning/training staff, something is fundamentally wrong with the program that can't solely be blamed on the school's location and budget. You can't just get a lifetime contract when this is the product on the floor every season.

The program also should not be so afraid that they can't find a good coach that you let a lackluster one hang around. That's a loser mentality. Just about any program in the country can be fixed with the right hires. The best thing to do when you're headed down the wrong path is to turn around so as to reduce the time it takes to get back to where you were. Continuing down the wrong path year after year will just get them further and further lost in the new landscape. The bottom is dropping out right now.

Drexel has a loser mentality. Always has. It has been stated numerous times on the zone. That mentality runs deeper than just the head coach, which is the ultimate problem. I doubt the administration is even talking about getting rid of Brusier. Pretty sure in their eyes he is doing well. Plus he lost Lee, so he had a built in excuse before the season ever started.

Listen to any of Bruiser's press conferences after any game from the Great Alaska Shootout. He sounds beaten and deflated. He is clearly at a career low right now and of course that gets passed onto the players and that causes lack of effort. Drexel teams have always played hard under Flint. They are not doing that right now. He has even stated he does not know why this team is bad, but they are bad. That shows you he has lost the team. We have threads on the zone and elsewhere that clearly show what the problem is and our coach cant figure it out, partly because the problems are his style as Seahawk stated. He will not change no matter what rules are in place. He has lived off of defense and that is our glaring weakness right now.

The worst part is they have done so poorly and been managed so poorly that the fans are now gone. The dedicated fans are now very sparse and all on the same page that the time is now to get rid of him (whether right now or the end of the season). It is so bad that our dedicated fans do not even watch every game or even most games anymore, they have the mentality of "what's the point?". And those that still are tuning in are now getting pissed. Not because of the poor play, but because they even bothered to waste their time tuning in. You can't get much worse than that. The DAC, while crappy, got to a point where their fans made it a tough place to play, now, you might get a couple dozen to show up and if lucky half of those are engaged in the game. It has become very sad to see the fall of where they were headed to where they are now.

That is about it in a nutshell. We have lost consecutive seasons to a D2 team and our coaches seat is likely barely even warm. We have talent that wont show because there is no heart or desire to be good, so this team will have to really dig deep and change what they are doing if they want to win more than a few games this entire season. As it stands and has for 15 years, that is not going to happen.
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