11-27-2015, 01:11 PM
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11-27-2015, 01:39 PM
hi ho, the merry oh, the wickedy ol' witch is dead....
the fact the media/networks/jews/hollywood feel the the need to change history via a color change will be their downfall....
hollywood is dumber than a sack of rocks......
the fact the media/networks/jews/hollywood feel the the need to change history via a color change will be their downfall....
hollywood is dumber than a sack of rocks......
11-27-2015, 02:08 PM
You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
11-27-2015, 02:52 PM
(11-27-2015 02:08 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
Was just going to post this.
11-27-2015, 03:54 PM
(11-27-2015 01:11 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4718770/
Why? Afraid of a little diversity? Careful, your privilege is showing.
11-27-2015, 04:28 PM
(11-27-2015 02:08 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
I did not. Thank you for pointing that out.
11-27-2015, 04:31 PM
11-27-2015, 04:33 PM
(11-27-2015 03:54 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: [ -> ](11-27-2015 01:11 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4718770/
Why? Afraid of a little diversity? Careful, your privilege is showing.
Being inclusive is one thing. Being exclusive is another.
11-27-2015, 06:30 PM
(11-27-2015 04:31 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ](11-27-2015 04:28 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ](11-27-2015 02:08 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
I did not. Thank you for pointing that out.
Wasn't there a version with Michael Jackson in it too?
Same one.
11-27-2015, 06:59 PM
(11-27-2015 02:08 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
yep....that one was tard too....
shockingly, there is a reason respected movie critics are hard to 'come by' these days
pc bs will always be pc bullshite.....I don't give two shites how one spins it....
multicultural beginnings becoming plausible need to begin moving forward.......rewriting history in color only takes away the 'pain' of reality......
dipshite thinking all day long the other is.....
can't hide from the real.....
11-27-2015, 10:05 PM
(11-27-2015 01:11 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4718770/
I'm very offended.
Remaking a musical done by Diana Ross and Michael Jackson? That's seriously offensive. What's next? Hard Days Night done by Maroon 5?
11-27-2015, 10:47 PM
(11-27-2015 06:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ](11-27-2015 02:08 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: [ -> ]You do know that this is a remake of the 1970's movie staring Diana Ross?
yep....that one was tard too....
shockingly, there is a reason respected movie critics are hard to 'come by' these days
pc bs will always be pc bullshite.....I don't give two shites how one spins it....
multicultural beginnings becoming plausible need to begin moving forward.......rewriting history in color only takes away the 'pain' of reality......
dipshite thinking all day long the other is.....
can't hide from the real.....
What? You do know that the Wizard of Oz isn't a very historically accurate story right? It's imaginary.
The Wiz has been performed in different places for 41 years.
11-27-2015, 10:50 PM
Is this a valid example of cultural appropriation?
11-27-2015, 10:59 PM
(11-27-2015 10:50 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: [ -> ]Is this a valid example of cultural appropriation?
How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
11-28-2015, 12:08 AM
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How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
11-28-2015, 12:30 AM
How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
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I personally think so. Some things are just the result of being in proximity and time moving things closer together.
I used to get really pissed off by a white guy rapping. But it dawned on me one day that not all white people are rich with no problems with no suffering. If the man has something to say, he should say it. Taking a form of something and putting it in a different context is just fine.
Now there are some things that are culturally appropriated that fit better into the definition than others. I think things that purposefully belittle the source culture fit right in there.
A situation particularly close to me that has been a subject here is the yoga thing. My wife is Indian and her family practices. She refuses to go to one of these downtown classes for "white women" (her words). In her opinion the classes have lost all of their soul just to become a yuppie pastime. Even then, I don't think this is a case of appropriation as much as it is a case of commercialization.
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
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I personally think so. Some things are just the result of being in proximity and time moving things closer together.
I used to get really pissed off by a white guy rapping. But it dawned on me one day that not all white people are rich with no problems with no suffering. If the man has something to say, he should say it. Taking a form of something and putting it in a different context is just fine.
Now there are some things that are culturally appropriated that fit better into the definition than others. I think things that purposefully belittle the source culture fit right in there.
A situation particularly close to me that has been a subject here is the yoga thing. My wife is Indian and her family practices. She refuses to go to one of these downtown classes for "white women" (her words). In her opinion the classes have lost all of their soul just to become a yuppie pastime. Even then, I don't think this is a case of appropriation as much as it is a case of commercialization.
11-28-2015, 01:00 AM
How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
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now we understand the difference between what is written and how it is rewritten...
nomad and his hook doesn't grasp cultural truth....like so many others..
it's a waste of time pining at this point....
let 'em drown in their 'air'...
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That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
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now we understand the difference between what is written and how it is rewritten...
nomad and his hook doesn't grasp cultural truth....like so many others..
it's a waste of time pining at this point....
let 'em drown in their 'air'...
11-28-2015, 01:10 AM
(11-28-2015 01:00 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ](11-28-2015 12:08 AM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: [ -> ]How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
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now we understand the difference between what is written and how it is rewritten...
nomad and his hook doesn't grasp cultural truth....like so many others..
it's a waste of time pining at this point....
let 'em drown in their 'air'...
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What's the cultural truth?
11-28-2015, 01:35 AM
(11-28-2015 01:10 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: [ -> ](11-28-2015 01:00 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ](11-28-2015 12:08 AM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: [ -> ]How would it be? The Wizard of Oz wasn't written in one specific cultural context, in my opinion.
That's why this cultural appropriation stuff is nonsense. It was and it wasn't. Was L. Frank Baum white? Yes. Are the characters white? Yes. But is this also a story about America and for Americans? Yes. Although the original story may have been about politics at the turn of the 20th century, can't it still be a fantasy story that enriches all peoples lives? Can't other things, often cited as culturally appropriated, also be viewed in the same way?
now we understand the difference between what is written and how it is rewritten...
nomad and his hook doesn't grasp cultural truth....like so many others..
it's a waste of time pining at this point....
let 'em drown in their 'air'...
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What's the cultural truth?
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I thought it was clear......a waste of time....
11-28-2015, 03:00 PM
Fables like Cinderella or Beauty and the Beast or Snow White have been told thousands of times in thousands of perspectives... why not this?
I don't have a problem with it, and don't think anyone should be offended by it at all. It's a familiar story being told to a 'different' audience, just like all those others.
I don't have a problem with it, and don't think anyone should be offended by it at all. It's a familiar story being told to a 'different' audience, just like all those others.
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