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“Trump is a serious player for the nomination at this time,” says Ed Rollins, who served as the national campaign director for Reagan’s 1984 reelection and as campaign chairman for Mike Huckabee in 2008. Rollins is not alone in his views. “Trump has sustained a lead for longer than there are days left” before voting begins in Iowa, says Steve Schmidt, who managed John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign. “For a long time,” Schmidt says, “you were talking to people in Washington, and there was a belief that there was an expiration date to this, as if there’s some secret group of people who have the ability to control the process.”

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He leads every poll. The establishment candidate is polling from 4th to 6th. They better wake up to the fact that Trump could win and their top candidate is being rejected by about 94% of the republican electorate. If they were smart they'd dump him from the race and see if they can peddle Rubio.

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I tried to warn over and over and over and over and over about not underestimating the 'power of the donald'....

never underestimate the power of line 1 in the sig....

it's just too easy....they're only human.....
As is the case in every election cycle when there are multiple candidates, a fringe candidate polls well.....25%, give or take....and the media run with it and make news out of it, because it sells. The reality is that the fringe candidate has topped out and in a general election or primary election, when the field narrows, the truth comes out.

Trump could be the anomaly but my gut says he's toast once a few more candidates drop out of the race. The supporters of those other candidates will choose another candidate but if they were part of the Trump fringe group, they'd already be supporting him.
I don't buy the folks that say he is due to drop out.

When you look at the issues themselves he leads on almost every one in almost every state and often times by 30-40% margins.

If it were any other candidate at this point we'd be circling the wagons and declaring the whole game over.
If Trump goes down the 9/11 Truther rabbit hole his support will fade away
I don't claim to know what "The Establishment" is thinking, but I am positive that Ed Rollins and Steve Schmidt do not speak on its behalf anymore.

It's difficult to say exactly when this will happen, but at some point between now and February, the non-Trump, non-Carson elements will coalesce behind one candidate and that person will the nomination.
(10-20-2015 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: [ -> ]I don't buy the folks that say he is due to drop out.

When you look at the issues themselves he leads on almost every one in almost every state and often times by 30-40% margins.

If it were any other candidate at this point we'd be circling the wagons and declaring the whole game over.

that's where I got it wrong.....or at least to this point....he may still be sliding money under the table....

regardless, the rnc is fk'n clueless.....
Donald will win. Get on board.
(10-20-2015 05:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]I don't claim to know what "The Establishment" is thinking, but I am positive that Ed Rollins and Steve Schmidt do not speak on its behalf anymore.

It's difficult to say exactly when this will happen, but at some point between now and February, the non-Trump, non-Carson elements will coalesce behind one candidate and that person will the nomination.
I don't think so. Trump/Carson/Cruz are well over 50%. Add Huck and Paul and you have over 60% that are unlikely to vote for their candidate. The establishment is simply outnumbered this cycle.

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(10-20-2015 07:26 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]Trump/Carson/Cruz are well over 50%. Add Huck and Paul and you have over 60% that are unlikely to vote for their candidate. The establishment is simply outnumbered this cycle.
If Trump/Carson/Cruz/Paul/Huckabee were, in some magical way, one individual candidate who received the combined-support that all 5 of those candidates currently enjoy, then I would agree with you. But the renegades are a house-divided, too.
(10-20-2015 05:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]I don't claim to know what "The Establishment" is thinking, but I am positive that Ed Rollins and Steve Schmidt do not speak on its behalf anymore.

It's difficult to say exactly when this will happen, but at some point between now and February, the non-Trump, non-Carson elements will coalesce behind one candidate and that person will the nomination.

There are a lot of egos involved. But people (rather than the establishment or the candidates) may coalesce.

Trump has a limit. Most people will not vote for him. He needs split opposition. That gives him a chance.
(10-20-2015 07:54 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-20-2015 05:55 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]I don't claim to know what "The Establishment" is thinking, but I am positive that Ed Rollins and Steve Schmidt do not speak on its behalf anymore.

It's difficult to say exactly when this will happen, but at some point between now and February, the non-Trump, non-Carson elements will coalesce behind one candidate and that person will the nomination.

There are a lot of egos involved. But people (rather than the establishment or the candidates) may coalesce.

Trump has a limit. Most people will not vote for him. He needs split opposition. That gives him a chance.

They won't vote for Trump 1.0 but after he wins the primary, they'll vote for Trump 2.0. He's the master of image manipulation.
Well We have had Peanut Farmer, Actor, CIA, Sex Addict, Baseball team owner, Socialist community Activist elected as POTUS, So what makes anyone feel a very successful business man would not be a better candidate as a President ?
(10-21-2015 06:55 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well We have had Peanut Farmer, Actor, CIA, Sex Addict, Baseball team owner, Socialist community Activist elected as POTUS, So what makes anyone feel a very successful business man would not be a better candidate as a President ?
LOL, point taken. But Trump's success in the business world is not the reason I doubt his ability to win the nomination.

Some other reactions to that list:

The peanut farmer had also been the Governor of Georgia.
The actor had also been the Governor of California.
The Director of CIA had also been the Vice-President, a successful businessman, a member of Congress, the Chairman of the Republican National Committee, the US Ambassador to the UN, and the US Envoy to China at a time when we did not have full diplomatic ties.
The sex-addict had also been the Governor of Arkansas.
The baseball owner had also been the Governor of Texas.
Even the community activist -- with by far the thinnest resumé in the bunch -- had also been a Senator from Illinois.
Nomination yes.

Presidency no way.
(10-21-2015 12:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote: [ -> ]Nomination yes.

Presidency no way.

Gosh I hope he wins the nomination.
(10-21-2015 12:07 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-21-2015 06:55 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well We have had Peanut Farmer, Actor, CIA, Sex Addict, Baseball team owner, Socialist community Activist elected as POTUS, So what makes anyone feel a very successful business man would not be a better candidate as a President ?
LOL, point taken. But Trump's success in the business world is not the reason I doubt his ability to win the nomination.

Some other reactions to that list:

The peanut farmer had also been the Governor of Georgia.
The actor had also been the Governor of California.
The Director of CIA had also been the Vice-President, a successful businessman, a member of Congress, the Chairman of the Republican National Committee, the US Ambassador to the UN, and the US Envoy to China at a time when we did not have full diplomatic ties.
The sex-addict had also been the Governor of Arkansas.
The baseball owner had also been the Governor of Texas.
Even the community activist -- with by far the thinnest resumé in the bunch -- had also been a Senator from Illinois.

the one common denominator....all losers when it came to running the gov't effectively.....all were media controlled knee jerkers or complete failures....

out of all the bunch, I think the sex addict wins as best performer with the least negative impact....ol' bill didn't do too bad of a job....and I'm hardly a lib.....
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