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While we didn't have any major upsets this weekend, I feel like the season is really taking shape and you can start seeing paths to the playoffs...

I think Baylor and TCU are on a collision course...Oklahoma State or West Virginia might try and throw a wrench into it, but I feel like TCU and Baylor are just better than the rest of the conference. Boykin for TCU just doesn't get rattled....

I see the winner becoming the #1 seed in the playoff.

Clemson and FSU are also on a collision course, and I think the winner wins the ACC and heads to the playoff...

The SEC is messy right now...Alabama looks like the best team, but they're not even at the top of their division, and they practically have to win out. Florida plays LSU next weekend...A&M is still undefeated....hard to say if the SEC will eliminate itself or not

Then you gave the Big 10...and I think they have a serious MICHIGAN problem forming. Ohio State and Michigan State have underperformd, but Michigan is coming on strong. Iowa is also quietly undefeated. I don't think we'll see an undefeated Big 10 champ...I do think the Big 10 champ will still have a good chance of making the playoff though...

Next, you have the PAC 12...and I think they have the worst chance of making the playoff. Utah is really the only team that has a chance IMO, and they still have a lot of tough games. Oregon is out, USC is out, and the rest of the conference just doesn't look that good...I think if Utah goes down, they're sort of out of th mix this year.

Lastly, you have Notre Dame...the rest of their schedule doesn't look that hard and they could wind up 11-1. They are behind Clemson though

So assuming Utah drops a game or more, the Big 10 champ has at least one loss, and ND wins out, we'll have...

#1 Baylor/TCU winner
#2 Clemson/FSU winner
#3 SEC Champ
#4 Big 10 Champ or Notre Dame

(10-10-2015 11:40 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]While we didn't have any major upsets this weekend, I feel like the season is really taking shape and you can start seeing paths to the playoffs...

I think Baylor and TCU are on a collision course...Oklahoma State or West Virginia might try and throw a wrench into it, but I feel like TCU and Baylor are just better than the rest of the conference. Boykin for TCU just doesn't get rattled....

I see the winner becoming the #1 seed in the playoff.

Clemson and FSU are also on a collision course, and I think the winner wins the ACC and heads to the playoff...

The SEC is messy right now...Alabama looks like the best team, but they're not even at the top of their division, and they practically have to win out. Florida plays LSU next weekend...A&M is still undefeated....hard to say if the SEC will eliminate itself or not

Then you gave the Big 10...and I think they have a serious MICHIGAN problem forming. Ohio State and Michigan State have underperformd, but Michigan is coming on strong. Iowa is also quietly undefeated. I don't think we'll see an undefeated Big 10 champ...I do think the Big 10 champ will still have a good chance of making the playoff though...

Next, you have the PAC 12...and I think they have the worst chance of making the playoff. Utah is really the only team that has a chance IMO, and they still have a lot of tough games. Oregon is out, USC is out, and the rest of the conference just doesn't look that good...I think if Utah goes down, they're sort of out of th mix this year.

Lastly, you have Notre Dame...the rest of their schedule doesn't look that hard and they could wind up 11-1. They are behind Clemson though

So assuming Utah drops a game or more, the Big 10 champ has at least one loss, and ND wins out, we'll have...

#1 Baylor/TCU winner
#2 Clemson/FSU winner
#3 SEC Champ
#4 Big 10 Champ or Notre Dame

It's way too early for this. But as off tonight the PAC will only have 1 unbeaten left.

Ohio State is overrated. Michigan State is way overrated. Their best win is a last second 3 point win over a 3 loss Oregon squad that lost one conference game by 42 points. Michigan is for real. Iowa just hasn't played anyone worth a hoot yet. It's hard to tell about them.

You are also way too optimistic about the ACC. Should Clemson lose to Florida State and Florida who plays the Nole's in Gainesville this year wins that game the ACC could easily be sitting on the curb at the end of the season. Why? The whole conference is awful. I wouldn't even rule out the Gamecocks upsetting Clemson.

Notre Dame has played nobody of real value and struggled with an absolutely woeful Virginia. Clemson was lucky to beat them. Miami and others have given F.S.U. all they wanted. Neither of them look complete and neither of them look like world beaters to me.

Somebody will win the West with no more than one loss and perhaps without any losses. Let's say A&M runs the table and Florida beats L.S.U. in a very close game. The SEC could still easily have two highly ranked schools at the end of the year.

Personally I think Sparty gets spanked by the Wolverines next week. T.C.U. is grossly overrated as they have very little D and an average KState gave them all they wanted and Tech should have beaten them except for a lucky catch and a changed rule (no two offensive receivers can touch the ball consecutively was changed).

We've all been on the Baylor bandwagon before only to have the bowl game slam home the truth about their strength of schedule. Anybody hear remember the Central Florida beat down?

So I'd say it's wide open and that likely the SEC and Big 10 will both have at least 1 representative. The Big 12 is in better shape this year so far and if the winner of the PAC isn't either Cal or Utah they are screwed. If the winner of the Clemson / Florida State game doesn't go undefeated the ACC is screwed as well.

You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

Looks like Boise State is a complete team. They are beating schools that other P5 schools struggled against mightily handily. If they blow out Utah State? Boise State is a much better team than Utah right now.

(10-11-2015 07:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like Boise State is a complete team. They are beating schools that other P5 schools struggled against mightily handily. If they blow out Utah State? Boise State is a much better team than Utah right now.

Didn't they lose to BYU?

I could see them in the running for the Access bid....they need Temple, Houston, and Memphis to lose though

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

We come to expect that from JR. Despite how many letdowns and bad weeks teams have in the SEC, it's always everyone else......and then January 1st happens.

Michigan is the frontrunner right now in The Big Ten. I think they are going to jump big time in the rankings today due to having three shutouts in a row and capping that off with a win over highly ranked Northwestern. Michigan should be in the top ten today. They probably wont be otherwise SEC folks would probably cry or something about them being overranked despite the epic rise and falls in ranking we are seeing come from overranked SEC teams this year.

(10-11-2015 09:11 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

We come to expect that from JR. Despite how many letdowns and bad weeks teams have in the SEC, it's always everyone else......and then January 1st happens.

Michigan is the frontrunner right now in The Big Ten. I think they are going to jump big time in the rankings today due to having three shutouts in a row and capping that off with a win over highly ranked Northwestern. Michigan should be in the top ten today. They probably wont be otherwise SEC folks would probably cry or something about them being overranked despite the epic rise and falls in ranking we are seeing come from overranked SEC teams this year.

I think we are going to see Michigan in the PO after they defeat the Buckeyes, yes, I'm calling it Michigan will beat the Buckeyes. My favorite right now, to win it all at this time. Harbaugh is a awesome Coach, nobody like him in CFB IMHO

(10-11-2015 09:32 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 09:11 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

We come to expect that from JR. Despite how many letdowns and bad weeks teams have in the SEC, it's always everyone else......and then January 1st happens.

Michigan is the frontrunner right now in The Big Ten. I think they are going to jump big time in the rankings today due to having three shutouts in a row and capping that off with a win over highly ranked Northwestern. Michigan should be in the top ten today. They probably wont be otherwise SEC folks would probably cry or something about them being overranked despite the epic rise and falls in ranking we are seeing come from overranked SEC teams this year.

I think we are going to see Michigan in the PO after they defeat the Buckeyes, yes, I'm calling it Michigan will beat the Buckeyes. My favorite right now, to win it all at this time. Harbaugh is a awesome Coach, nobody like him in CFB IMHO

My early predictions this year were for Michigan to go 11-1 in the regular season. I missed the Utah loss but who knows, maybe I will be correct after all and I will also miss on the Ohio State game causing my 11-1 mark to be correct. That Ohio State vs Michigan game is turning into the must see game of the year. I think OSU will show up in top form for that game.

I think Michigan is going to beat up Michigan State. Michigan State doesn't belong in the top 4 discussion anymore, in my opinion.

(10-11-2015 09:08 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like Boise State is a complete team. They are beating schools that other P5 schools struggled against mightily handily. If they blow out Utah State? Boise State is a much better team than Utah right now.

Didn't they lose to BYU?

I could see them in the running for the Access bid....they need Temple, Houston, and Memphis to lose though

Temple is a lock this week.

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

I wouldn't assume that Temple-ND game on Halloween is going to be a pushover if I were you.

(10-11-2015 10:46 AM)malenko2 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

I wouldn't assume that Temple-ND game on Halloween is going to be a pushover if I were you.

Agree, Temple is for real, Great Defense! I'm going with Temple on this one, and not because I'm AAC homer.

(10-11-2015 09:11 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

We come to expect that from JR. Despite how many letdowns and bad weeks teams have in the SEC, it's always everyone else......and then January 1st happens.

Michigan is the frontrunner right now in The Big Ten. I think they are going to jump big time in the rankings today due to having three shutouts in a row and capping that off with a win over highly ranked Northwestern. Michigan should be in the top ten today. They probably wont be otherwise SEC folks would probably cry or something about them being overranked despite the epic rise and falls in ranking we are seeing come from overranked SEC teams this year.

It's "we've come to expect" that.

1. The SEC has narrowed down to Florida in the East (2 game lead on the pack and a victory over Kentucky) and is a race in the west between A&M, LSU, and Alabama all of which remain on each other's schedule.

2. If Utah slips up once they will likely make it. If they slip up twice, or once against schools which already have bad losses they might not.

3. Florida State is overrated again. Clemson has only a 2 point win against a suspect Notre Dame. I agree that the USC game will give a little more indication of what ND may or may not have, but a little bit is all since USC is very suspect as well.

The rest of the ACC is really down this year. Clemson has games on the road left at Miami and at South Carolina in addition to the Noles. Dabo isn't a lock yet.

F.S.U. has Florida in Gainesville and right now I like the chances of the Gators in that one and that isn't being a homer, that's just appreciating a really good defense.

As for Michigan I said two weeks ago they were underrated and then deserving of a top 15 position. I think they are easily the class of the Big 10 this year based upon performances to date. I also think they are easily top 10, Michigan State not so much. Ohio State has the pieces but so far they haven't assembled them in any way that resembles last year. Offensive line problems continue to plague their more 1 dimensional offense.

Kind of sad that the only thing you could correct in my statement was the "we've".

I don't disagree with your assertions when you come up with a balanced assessment but your assessments of the SEC are generally biased to a strong degree. You are not alone in that so I don't hold it too much against you when the Media fuels that kind of perception.

I give credit where credit is due, Florida is for real. I think they go all the way in the SEC and I have that listed in a different thread where I have Florida listed as my #4.

Ohio State is not looking as bad as some folks want to portray them as. Are they firing on all cylinders? Absolutely not and that is not necessarily something to hold against them, that is something to be worried about.

They did pretty good against Maryland once they got their act together and they are still undefeated. Until they get that loss, they are to be feared because some of their stars showed up big. Now, if they underperform against Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan then it is time to question things. For now though, this is all just preparation for the post season. They are That talented and everyone else that isn't overly biased against The Big Ten knows it.

In regards to Utah? They better not overlook ASU this coming weekend. I know folks don't list it as a must see game but ASU was ranked at the top in the preseason for a reason. They have a lot of talent on that team and they are finally getting it figured out. I know this personally, they are very hungry and their confidence has come together. They want a win over Utah bad. If Utah wins that one, then it will be a bigger deal than most folks will give credit for.

I think Clemson could run the tables and make it in. They made it through Notre Dame and I think that will be their toughest challenge of the season. Florida State will give them a game but Clemson is the better all around team and Should win it....unless we see another "Clemsoned" final in that game.

I wish all these so-called "experts" would STFU. Damn near every emphatic proclamation every one of these idiots have made - here and on TV - have been so far off-base it's no longer funny. The playoff committee isn't ranking diddly until November, when's there's enough information to make some kind of educated analysis.

Instead, we have fans - including the idiots on TV - with the memory of a long time Alzheimer's patient making uneducated guesses based on almost no information what so ever. It's just their opinion, based on ranking of their favorite teams, with the usual national suspects sprinkled throughout.

I've been sick of this for decades. It requires no thought, and everybody jumps in because their team is ranked - or it isn't - or it isn't ranked high enough. It generates chatter. But nothing worth discussing, even though everyone discusses nothing else.

Idiocracy was supposed to be entertainment, not a prophecy.

(10-11-2015 11:42 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]I give credit where credit is due, Florida is for real. I think they go all the way in the SEC and I have that listed in a different thread where I have Florida listed as my #4.

I'm not sold on Florida yet...if they beat LSU this weekend, I'll be a believer

Right now they are catching other teams off guard. Wait till other SEC teams get more tape on them...

(10-11-2015 11:32 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 09:11 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 07:29 AM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]You can't have everyone other than the SEC West as overrated lol. Other teams from other confernces ARE going to make the playoff...

What you can do is start to put little factoids together....

1) IF Notre Dame beats USC next week, they get a bye right before 5 very winnable games. I like their chances to win out, and if they do, they'll be high in the rankings

2) The PAC 12 seems to have the worst odds of getting a team in. It's sort of Utah or bust. UCLA could have an outside chance, but they basically have to win out at this point. Stanford's loss to Northwestern just got uglier yesterday.

3) Michigan seems to be a factor in the Big 10. Not only do they look like a spoiler, they could have a real shot at winning the Big 10

Too much football left in the SEC to play...who's the frontrunner? Maybe the LSU-Florida winner next week

We come to expect that from JR. Despite how many letdowns and bad weeks teams have in the SEC, it's always everyone else......and then January 1st happens.

Michigan is the frontrunner right now in The Big Ten. I think they are going to jump big time in the rankings today due to having three shutouts in a row and capping that off with a win over highly ranked Northwestern. Michigan should be in the top ten today. They probably wont be otherwise SEC folks would probably cry or something about them being overranked despite the epic rise and falls in ranking we are seeing come from overranked SEC teams this year.

It's "we've come to expect" that.

1. The SEC has narrowed down to Florida in the East (2 game lead on the pack and a victory over Kentucky) and is a race in the west between A&M, LSU, and Alabama all of which remain on each other's schedule.

2. If Utah slips ups once they will likely make it. If they slip up twice, or once against schools which already have bad losses they might not.

3. Florida State is overrated again. Clemson has only a 2 point win against a suspect Notre Dame. I agree that the USC game will give a little more indication of what ND may or may not have, but a little bit is all since USC is very suspect as well.

The rest of the ACC is really down this year. Clemson has games on the road left at Miami and at South Carolina in addition to the Noles. Dabo isn't a lock yet.

F.S.U. has Florida in Gainesville and right now I like the chances of the Gators in that one and that isn't being a homer, that's just appreciating a really good defense.

As for Michigan I said two weeks ago they were underrated and then deserving of a top 15 position. I think they are easily the class of the Big 10 this year based upon performances to date. I also think they are easily top 10, Michigan State not so much. Ohio State has the pieces but so far they haven't assembled them in any way that resembles last year. Offensive line problems continue to plague their more 1 dimensional offense.

Clemson and FSU don't look any worse than the SEC East....South Carolina was really never in the game against LSU...it's a very mediocre division

(10-11-2015 03:11 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 11:42 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]I give credit where credit is due, Florida is for real. I think they go all the way in the SEC and I have that listed in a different thread where I have Florida listed as my #4.

I'm not sold on Florida yet...if they beat LSU this weekend, I'll be a believer

Right now they are catching other teams off guard. Wait till other SEC teams get more tape on them...

I think Grier is doing more than simply catching teams off guard but you are correct, if they beat LSU this coming weekend then there is no denying them.

(10-11-2015 03:11 PM)EvilVodka Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-11-2015 11:42 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]I give credit where credit is due, Florida is for real. I think they go all the way in the SEC and I have that listed in a different thread where I have Florida listed as my #4.

I'm not sold on Florida yet...if they beat LSU this weekend, I'll be a believer

Right now they are catching other teams off guard. Wait till other SEC teams get more tape on them...

Georgia wins out and Florida is sitting on the sidelines (assuming they don't beat LSU in Baton Rouge).

Nobody is looking dominant this year. Easily could be no unbeaten teams.

Michigan becomes a playoff favorite after they beat Michigan State this coming weekend. Beat OSU and they are easily playoff bound.

(10-11-2015 05:31 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: [ -> ]Michigan becomes a playoff favorite after they beat Michigan State this coming weekend. Beat OSU and they are easily playoff bound.

No doubt there and they will have earned and deserved it.