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Bystander Opens Fire On Suspected Home Depot Shoplifters

Quote:A bystander outside a Home Depot in Auburn Hills, Michigan, opened fire on a man suspected of shoplifting from the store on Tuesday as he attempted to flee the scene in an SUV driven by another man.

Police told The Detroit News that the bystander, a woman with a license to carry a concealed pistol, shot at the getaway car's tires after witnessing a loss prevention officer attempt to stop the suspect and fail.

It's unclear how many shots the woman, who is in her 40s, fired from her 9 mm handgun, though police believe she may have punctured one of the vehicle's tires. Authorities are still on the lookout for the car.
Damn, she apparently got the tire and they STILL got away.
Only in Metro Detroit...
the alternatives from today's pop culture....

[Image: justin-bieber-2015.jpg]

[Image: miley-cyrus-nightmare.jpg]

yee-haw....
(10-07-2015 03:17 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]Damn, she apparently got the tire and they STILL got away.

[Image: Vielhaber_2637430000_13927094_ver1.0_640_480.jpg]

Practice makes Perfect !03-lmfao
(10-08-2015 07:03 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]the alternatives from today's pop culture....

[Image: justin-bieber-2015.jpg]

[Image: miley-cyrus-nightmare.jpg]

yee-haw....

Cloning ! Your Choice 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
(10-07-2015 05:05 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: [ -> ]Only in Metro Detroit...

C'mon Dude...Auburn Hills is hardly Metro Detroit.
(10-08-2015 09:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-07-2015 05:05 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: [ -> ]Only in Metro Detroit...

C'mon Dude...Auburn Hills is hardly Metro Detroit.

Still within the spectrum of it.
(10-08-2015 08:40 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2015 07:03 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ]the alternatives from today's pop culture....

[Image: justin-bieber-2015.jpg]

[Image: miley-cyrus-nightmare.jpg]

yee-haw....

Cloning ! Your Choice 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

those darn pansexuals....they'll do whatever it takes to make everyone happy...
An update:

Quote:“It’s my worst nightmare as a CPL instructor,” said Doreen Hankins, owner of Detroit Arms, which holds CPL classes. “You have to know the entire situation before you pull that handgun out. And I don’t see that a shoplifter at Home Depot fills any of those criteria.”

To use a concealed weapon in Michigan, a CPL holder needs to think that there is an imminent danger of death, great bodily harm or sexual assault, or think there is a similar danger to someone else, said Rick Ector, a firearms trainer who runs Legally Armed Detroit. He added that a gun is “truly a tool of last resort.”

“In that situation personally, there’s no way I would be shooting my gun,” said another instructor, Dawn Martin, with the Kalamazoo-based Viper Security Enforcement Inc.

CPL holders who misuse their guns could face a wide range of charges — among them felony firearm, reckless use of a firearm and felonious assault.

Hankins, the owner of Detroit Arms, said of the shooting, “None of it makes sense. Even if it were law enforcement, they wouldn’t do that.”

She added, speaking of CPL holders: “You are not a police officer. You are not a person out there protecting the public at large.”
Expert: Woman shouldn't have fired gun at shoplifter
Northern Arizona University shooting followed confrontation, police say

Quote:A confrontation between students in a parking lot at Northern Arizona University turned deadly early Friday when, police say, a freshman pulled a gun and shot four male students, killing one.

More guns...always the answer!!!

Nugent 2016
(10-09-2015 10:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Northern Arizona University shooting followed confrontation, police say

Quote:A confrontation between students in a parking lot at Northern Arizona University turned deadly early Friday when, police say, a freshman pulled a gun and shot four male students, killing one.

More guns...always the answer!!!

Nugent 2016

Why did he have access to a gun? It's against Northern Arizona University regulations to possess a firearm on school property.

It's also against NAU regulations to discharge a firearm on campus

http://nau.edu/residence-life/life-on-ca...residence/

Quote:5.1 Weapons and Explosives: Possession, use, or sale of any incendiary, explosive, or destructive device or any firearm on the University campus and within University housing is not permitted. At no time will live ammunition of any type be permitted in or on University premises.

5.2 Handguns: Any and all types of pistols (including revolvers, automatics, derringers, etc.) and any and all types of air- or gas-operated guns (including paintball guns, airsoft guns and any object reasonably perceived to be a gun) are prohibited on campus and within University housing at all times.

5.3 Discharging Weapons: The firing of any type of firearm, bow and arrow, slingshot, or any other weapon on campus is prohibited.
(10-09-2015 10:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Northern Arizona University shooting followed confrontation, police say

Quote:A confrontation between students in a parking lot at Northern Arizona University turned deadly early Friday when, police say, a freshman pulled a gun and shot four male students, killing one.

More guns...always the answer!!!

Nugent 2016

yeah, your windless tirade is solving that problem....super sigh

you offer nothing other than micro isolated points that will happen regardless....your arguments are pathetically invalid....

man, it's okay....you just aren't bright....

there never was a working 'light' in that 2-pack of fluorescent, was there?

it's okay, you can cry know, or punch the screen, or come with some tard response to my \response....or report me....like I give two shites...

even the clueless can have a great day....so go have one.....
(10-08-2015 01:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Expert: Woman shouldn't have fired gun at shoplifter[/url]

Every single CCP holder agrees with this expert. There is almost no discussion to be had, this CCP holder is in the wrong.
(10-09-2015 11:37 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2015 01:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Expert: Woman shouldn't have fired gun at shoplifter[/url]

Every single CCP holder agrees with this expert. There is almost no discussion to be had, this CCP holder is in the wrong.

Yup.

And should faces charges just as soon as her CCP is revoked.
(10-09-2015 11:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2015 11:37 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2015 01:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Expert: Woman shouldn't have fired gun at shoplifter[/url]

Every single CCP holder agrees with this expert. There is almost no discussion to be had, this CCP holder is in the wrong.

Yup.

And should faces charges just as soon as her CCP is revoked.

The real question is whether or not we will see an increase or decrease in this sort of activity in the future.
(10-09-2015 12:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2015 11:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2015 11:37 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-08-2015 01:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Expert: Woman shouldn't have fired gun at shoplifter[/url]

Every single CCP holder agrees with this expert. There is almost no discussion to be had, this CCP holder is in the wrong.

Yup.

And should faces charges just as soon as her CCP is revoked.

The real question is whether or not we will see an increase or decrease in this sort of activity in the future.

I don't think we will, just as we haven't at any other time. I just think this person was an idiot.
(10-09-2015 12:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]The real question is whether or not we will see an increase or decrease in this sort of activity in the future.

History shows that CCP holders are among the most law abiding Americans. There is no reason to assume otherwise in the future.

FWIW, Fit, here is how a responsible CCP holder will conduct themselves:

*You must use appropriate force.
*You must try to avoid lethal force.
*You can not be a willing participant in the altercation.
*You must be in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm.

The above is why you so rarely hear about CCP holders getting into legal trouble. Remember, a self-defense shooting is the second worst possible outcome. The worst possible outcome is the intended victim dying.
(10-09-2015 12:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2015 12:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]The real question is whether or not we will see an increase or decrease in this sort of activity in the future.

History shows that CCP holders are among the most law abiding Americans. There is no reason to assume otherwise in the future.

FWIW, Fit, here is how a responsible CCP holder will conduct themselves:

*You must use appropriate force.
*You must try to avoid lethal force.
*You can not be a willing participant in the altercation.
*You must be in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm.

The above is why you so rarely hear about CCP holders getting into legal trouble. Remember, a self-defense shooting is the second worst possible outcome. The worst possible outcome is the intended victim dying.

Agreed...it's not the CCP folks I'm most concerned about...they at least get some training. I just don't want everyone packing heat. It's not going to end well.
(10-09-2015 12:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2015 12:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote: [ -> ]The real question is whether or not we will see an increase or decrease in this sort of activity in the future.

History shows that CCP holders are among the most law abiding Americans. There is no reason to assume otherwise in the future.

FWIW, Fit, here is how a responsible CCP holder will conduct themselves:

*You must use appropriate force.
*You must try to avoid lethal force.
*You can not be a willing participant in the altercation.
*You must be in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm.

The above is why you so rarely hear about CCP holders getting into legal trouble. Remember, a self-defense shooting is the second worst possible outcome. The worst possible outcome is the intended victim dying.

I'm sure you are correct. I just don't want to be around when someone decides they need to use their gun.
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