Date: October 3rd, 2015
Time: 1:00 PM
Opponent: Saint Francis (PA) (1-2, 0-0 NEC)
Place: Kermit-Tipton Stadium
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The Frankie’s beat the University of Faith in an exhibition game last week 78-0.
The Northeast Conference, an FCS conference, allows 40 football scholarships. Does St Francis offer the full allotment? All these NCAA divisions in football is a convoluted mess, with much of it meaningless to the average college football fan.
IDK much about them, but there running back is supposed to be one of the best in FCS.
(09-28-2015 03:12 PM)Stateman Wrote: [ -> ]The Frankie’s beat the University of Faith in an exhibition game last week 78-0.
And who got the ball rolling to take the faith school off our schedule?
Why would you want to play a team ( if you want to call them that ) that wouldn't count for anything and would be of no value in helping our team get better.
(09-28-2015 07:31 PM)buc73 Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you want to play a team ( if you want to call them that ) that wouldn't count for anything and would be of no value in helping our team get better.
TO GET A WIN!!!!!
Continue hearing of the plan, and they're working the long range plan. And, nobody said it would be easy. But, there was another coach who once said that "winning is not everything, it's the only thing". So, there are different ways of looking at it.
http://www.etsubucs.com/football/news/20...t-francis/
This year has been disappointing for me, as I thought we would win all the home games except KSU. I now think that we won't win a game this season, and maybe not next season as the competition gets harder.
But honestly, I am more upset that Torbush isn't being more realistic in his press conferences. You get the feeling from listening to him that we can win every game if we play well. That is not true. We couldn't have won KSU if we played well, and we can't win Montana State even if we play well. I would have rather Torbush say, before the KSU game, that this is going to be a bit like comparing apples to oranges. Instead, he said "this will be a good test for us, as both programs are starting up from scratch". This gave false hope to the fans.
Saying "winning is not everything, it is the only thing" is easier to say in some situations than others. I don't think Vince would have said that if he were in Torbush's shoes in this situation.
Why would anyone think ETSU would win all their home games.
Does anyone think UT or anyone else could win all their home games with only five players that have practiced or played against college competition. The Bucs had a good chance to beat Maryville and EH but came up short a yard or less in both games. Yes, it was heartbreaking but that does not mean that the players are bad or the coaches are dumb. The Bucs at this stage are a group of young men trying to become a team. A team is not totally developed by practicing or scrimmaging against themselves, especially when the players they are practicing against have no college experience. A teams final and hardest lessons are learned by playing in game situations and that is where the Bucs are woefully inexperienced. Game experience is where the players find out how they really stack up. It shines a light on their weaknesses and their strengths. It is then the coaches and the players responsibility to work as hard as they can to improve. This improvement does not come in one day, one week or one month. It is a four year process of turning high school players into college players, getting stronger, learning a complete playbook, gaining 25-40lbs, getting the all-important game experience.
If you want to argue that the plan that was agree upon by the coaches, the administration and outside sources to build the football program was wrong, OK. I don't remember any posts criticizing this decision, in fact, I remember reading that fans couldn't believe that Phil Fulmer was hired as a consultant. They saw big time, successful assistants hired. They saw former ETSU grads that were very successful, hired. They saw the recruiting of local talent ( I don't believe there is enough local talent to be successful ) which has always been the cry from the fans. They announced a new on campus stadium.
The Bucs are and will get better. They are still learning the playbook, technique, working in the weight room and getting the most important lesson of all, game experience. Most fans only see wins and losses and they never understand what it takes to have a winning team. Most fans have unrealistic expectations regardless of the sport and of course they know how to coach and play better than anyone else. The fans hindsight is always right.
For some on this board, I'll throw in this score.......Appy State 49 ODU 0...The game was played at ODU
(09-29-2015 09:37 AM)buc73 Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone think ETSU would win all their home games.
I think he said all the home games besides KSU. Lets look.
2 Div III schools
2 NAIA schools
1 FCS with a 40 scholarship limit.
Yeah I could see why someone would think all 5 of those games would be winnable, at least 4 of them.
(09-29-2015 09:37 AM)buc73 Wrote: [ -> ]For some on this board, I'll throw in this score.......Appy State 49 ODU 0...The game was played at ODU
and this relates to ETSU losing (at home) to two Div III schools and getting thumped (at home) by another startup program? Show me how one has anything to do with the other.
(09-28-2015 03:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2015 03:12 PM)Stateman Wrote: [ -> ]The Frankie’s beat the University of Faith in an exhibition game last week 78-0.
And who got the ball rolling to take the faith school off our schedule?
The "College" of Faith needed to come off the schedule. We don't need to be playing any team that isn't from a real college.
The Bucs will improve, will have another group of redshirt freshman and another freshman class for next year but the competition will be much tougher playing a full SoCon schedule. The Bucs will face much better teams whose players will have twice to three times the experience the Bucs will have. It will be a tall task to win a single Socon game.
Many of the posters on this board believe ETSU is a FCS football team, when in reality they are FCS only in classification. When we have a full complement of scholarship players and have a senior class, then will we be a full fledged FCS team.
Mercer was 10-2 their first season playing in the Pioneer League ( non scholarship league ) The next year in the SoCon they won one game, VMI. This year they have 14 Sr and 39 Jr. They have beat two cupcakes and lost to Tenn Tech.
I believe the Bucs will be better prepared for their first year in the SoCon because they will have played a tougher schedule. By the third year, the Bucs still will not have a Sr. class but IMO they will be a better third year team than Mercer.
The App. St - ODU score...playing at home doesn't overcome experience.
(09-29-2015 02:25 PM)WingedWarrior Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2015 03:33 PM)Buc66 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-28-2015 03:12 PM)Stateman Wrote: [ -> ]The Frankie’s beat the University of Faith in an exhibition game last week 78-0.
And who got the ball rolling to take the faith school off our schedule?
The "College" of Faith needed to come off the schedule. We don't need to be playing any team that isn't from a real college.
A win it would be in front of hungry fans. Maybe St Francis will come in too overconfident after their 78-0 cake walk over them last week.
Said it elsewhere - ETSU football is not really here until the stadium opens. That's about the time to start DEMANDING some wins. For now, ETSU has to deal with the strategic decision to start a program in a high school stadium with local redshirt and true freshman. It's a prototype team, if anything. I don't really expect recruiting to differ next year, so the coaches and boys need every ass kicking they can get this year for perspective, short of running kids off from bad morale. They'll be men in time, the stadium will renew program excitement, and then we'll find out who's who, what's what.
(09-29-2015 05:06 PM)shampoo Wrote: [ -> ]Said it elsewhere - ETSU football is not really here until the stadium opens. That's about the time to start DEMANDING some wins. For now, ETSU has to deal with the strategic decision to start a program in a high school stadium with local redshirt and true freshman. It's a prototype team, if anything. I don't really expect recruiting to differ next year, so the coaches and boys need every ass kicking they can get this year for perspective, short of running kids off from bad morale. They'll be men in time, the stadium will renew program excitement, and then we'll find out who's who, what's what.
Looks like we restarted football before the on campus stadium could be opened in order to rejoin the Southern Conference on a timetable driven by others leaving. Likely waiting until 2017 to apply for membership could have been too late. The ultimate responsibility of football's success rests with Noland. He will have to decide how long to give Torbush to put a winner on the field, unless Torbush was just hired to get the program up and going and will retire sooner rather than later. Just speculating here. Anyway, the boss will have to decide, and he does not seem like one who likes to wait around.
Honestly, I doubt that either Torbush or Noland will be in their respective positions by the time the new stadium opens.
(09-29-2015 07:33 PM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, I doubt that either Torbush or Noland will be in their respective positions by the time the new stadium opens.
Sure hope you're wrong about Noland.