UC just announced a renovation for their basketball arena and have already started an upgrade of their football stadium. Will the ACC or Big XII come calling?
(08-29-2015 06:19 AM)Jimi357 Wrote: [ -> ]UC just announced a renovation for their basketball arena and have already started an upgrade of their football stadium. Will the ACC or Big XII come calling?
Nothing going to happen for a couple of years....just be ready if/when an opening comes up....rooting for you guys to get out of the kiddie table...
Sorry UL, the ACC has no desire to add UC whatsoever.
(08-29-2015 06:19 AM)Jimi357 Wrote: [ -> ]UC just announced a renovation for their basketball arena and have already started an upgrade of their football stadium. Will the ACC or Big XII come calling?
For ACC membership? No
For a bunch of potential OOC games so ACC members can recruit in Ohio? Yes!
Now, the Dysfunctional XII can do whatever it wants.
Wasn't too long ago that UofL was never getting in the ACC either. I just hope our neighbors up north land somewhere. They are too good an opponent to die in AAC hell
(08-29-2015 07:50 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry UL, the ACC has no desire to add UC whatsoever.
It not really UofL problem...if it is the Big XII that fine as well...feel for them in G5 hell and must of us have no issue with our old conference mates..
FSU fans get real, a block of Cincinnati , Louisville and Notre Dame is a natural geographic fit for the ACC footprint and commands TV draw. Some day Notre Dame will play football in the ACC.
Boston College
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
Virginia
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami
Wilkie, UC has zero support from the entire conference, save UL. It's not an FSU issue.
Adding them does not improve the conference. It adds to the middle of the pack.
Agree with Marge. Cincinnati adds nothing to the league. So what if we used to play them? We also were rivals with Southern Miss and Memphis. Would rather play our new conference mates x1000 over our used to be rivals!
They add a large TV market. Remember the B10 added Rutgers for TV.
If adding UC would give the ACC a cable network, I'd do it tomorrow.
Otherwise, not at this time.
I don't buy the market size argument. How big is the Auburn market? Would we take Cincy over Auburn because of market size? Then why aren't we going for Northwestern (Chicago) or Harvard (Boston?) or Memphis? I'll take Tenn, Auburn, or Florida everyday because they add value but not a big market. Maybe by market size you mean number of fans and not just the size of the town they play in?
(08-29-2015 08:02 PM)ACCardinal Wrote: [ -> ]I don't buy the market size argument. How big is the Auburn market? Would we take Cincy over Auburn because of market size? Then why aren't we going for Northwestern (Chicago) or Harvard (Boston?) or Memphis? I'll take Tenn, Auburn, or Florida everyday because they add value but not a big market. Maybe by market size you mean number of fans and not just the size of the town they play in?
Pretty sure BC is already a member of the ACC.
People are making the market size argument because the ACC has had a recent history of making decisions based off of market size. The original ACC expansion plan in 2003 was BC (Boston), Miami and Syracuse (New York). They were adding Miami because their football program was great back then and they were adding BC and Syracuse due to their market (and because that is who Miami wanted to come with them)
ACC turned down WVU for Pitt and Syracuse in 2011.
Cincinnati adds more than your think Marge. That metro area has better ball than the Pittsburgh metro. They may just another middle or the road team, but it's some recruiting territory worth having.
Cincinnati is revenue negative unless they are a requirement to launch the ACCN. It is difficult to imagine that being the case. Cincinnati only delivers a bit of Cincinnati and NKY. They can't even get a 2 for 1 with Ohio State, much less a home and home.
Louisville only got the invite because Maryland executed their own football program for the indefinite future for the pursuit of a short term cash gain that would allow them to not cut deeply unprofitable Olympic sports... a move I would still describe to this day as highly questionable. Do you know anybody else in the ACC who'd take a solo ride to the B1G right now to free a spot for Cincinnati? It is again difficult to imagine such a scenario.
(08-29-2015 07:09 PM)dbacard Wrote: [ -> ]They add a large TV market. Remember the B10 added Rutgers for TV.
Cincinnati is a liiiiittle smaller than NJ/NYC.
(08-29-2015 10:26 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: [ -> ]Cincinnati adds more than your think Marge. That metro area has better ball than the Pittsburgh metro. They may just another middle or the road team, but it's some recruiting territory worth having.
I am the deceased, racist owner of a St. Bernard...and the Cincinnati Reds. I know a little about the area.
(08-30-2015 01:37 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: [ -> ] (08-29-2015 10:26 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: [ -> ]Cincinnati adds more than your think Marge. That metro area has better ball than the Pittsburgh metro. They may just another middle or the road team, but it's some recruiting territory worth having.
I am the deceased, racist owner of a St. Bernard...and the Cincinnati Reds. I know a little about the area.
Maybe so, but I know what I have been told about replacing Maryland and had The hoops schools put up a struggle because of Louisville's academics Cincy was the compromise.
As long as UConn has the football negative issues they have (and unless they move to Texas or Florida they are a negative) then Cincy is at the head of the list.
(08-30-2015 02:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]then Cincy is at the head of the list.
... amongst those who will automatically accept unconditionally right now.
I am more ambitious ... I'd prefer to have the ACCN be a cash cow and go on the offensive and pick up Tennessee or Pedo State.
(08-30-2015 03:06 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2015 02:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]then Cincy is at the head of the list.
... amongst those who will automatically accept unconditionally right now.
I am more ambitious ... I'd prefer to have the ACCN be a cash cow and go on the offensive and pick up Tennessee or Pedo State.
Then you are one of the many fools who actually believe we will have a profitable network.
I'm in the camp that believes if we were to pull that off then ESPN would have paired the SEC and ACC networks together to maximize their profits.
ESPN knows it's going to cost them a fortune to buy back the rights that the ACC forced them to give Raycom and they know that the potential viewership of a conference consisting of four private all-sports members and a fifth private member who is only a member in the sports that the majority of their fans don't care about isn't going to sell a lot of subscriptions.
So go ahead and explain to me how a potential ACC Network is going to be a big enough cash cow to draw an SEC team away from an already more profitable conference than we can get in the best of circumstances.