07-24-2015, 10:21 AM
07-24-2015, 10:56 AM
really makes sense. Thought it'd be an eastern addition all along.
07-24-2015, 11:01 AM
What a kick in the nads to Liberty
07-24-2015, 12:30 PM
I imagine CCU will be the choice. I know it sounds cliche coming from a WKU fan, but having lived in KY for two decades, there is no such thing as an EKU fan. Would look really bad for SBC.
07-24-2015, 12:37 PM
I wonder what happened to a Florida market?
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
07-24-2015, 12:49 PM
(07-24-2015 12:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what happened to a Florida market?
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
We need a travel partner for App in the olympic sports. I don't think they are even talking about adding a football program to the conference in the short term.
07-24-2015, 12:55 PM
(07-24-2015 12:49 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 12:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what happened to a Florida market?
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
We need a travel partner for App in the olympic sports. I don't think they are even talking about adding a football program to the conference in the short term.
Would North Florida be a good travel partner for Georgia Southern? You have 2 non-football schools in the west. Adding 2 non-football schools in the east would not hurt either.
07-24-2015, 12:57 PM
Coastal makes a lot of sense for competitiveness across the sports. They have solid FCS football, good baseball, good golf, good soccer, and their basketball team has been pretty good (by Big South standards) for the last 2-3 years.
Their only issue is support, but that is going to be the issue with any one the Sun Belt offers unless they go with JMU or Liberty, which apparently are out of the running.
Support is nice, but performance is better and I'd put CCU at least equal, if not better, to JMU in that regard.
Their only issue is support, but that is going to be the issue with any one the Sun Belt offers unless they go with JMU or Liberty, which apparently are out of the running.
Support is nice, but performance is better and I'd put CCU at least equal, if not better, to JMU in that regard.
07-24-2015, 01:09 PM
(07-24-2015 12:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what happened to a Florida market?
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
There are no Florida schools left in FCS that could afford a move.
07-24-2015, 01:14 PM
The Chants’ men’s basketball team has reached the NCAA tournament each of the last two seasons, and for what it’s worth, coach Cliff Ellis used to coach at South Alabama.
The Chants are also perennial national players in baseball, having reached the NCAA Regionals in 13 of the last 15 seasons, and men’s soccer, while boasting programs in track and field/cross country, men’s and women’s golf, softball and volleyball that perennially compete for Big South championships.
Again, Coastal Carolina has expressed in the past a desire to explore possibilities of potentially moving to a larger conference, and if the university decides to make that jump it would need to increase its football stadium capacity to meet the NCAA's FBS standard of an average paid or actual home attendance of at least 15,000 once every two years. Coastal Carolina's Brooks Stadium currently has a capacity of around 9,400, which the Chants still struggle to fill at times. The school would also take on additional travel costs for all of it's athletics teams with such a move to a more spread out conference.
The Chants are also perennial national players in baseball, having reached the NCAA Regionals in 13 of the last 15 seasons, and men’s soccer, while boasting programs in track and field/cross country, men’s and women’s golf, softball and volleyball that perennially compete for Big South championships.
Again, Coastal Carolina has expressed in the past a desire to explore possibilities of potentially moving to a larger conference, and if the university decides to make that jump it would need to increase its football stadium capacity to meet the NCAA's FBS standard of an average paid or actual home attendance of at least 15,000 once every two years. Coastal Carolina's Brooks Stadium currently has a capacity of around 9,400, which the Chants still struggle to fill at times. The school would also take on additional travel costs for all of it's athletics teams with such a move to a more spread out conference.
07-24-2015, 01:15 PM
it'll be interesting to see if either of these happen what goes on with the WAC. NMSU looks pretty much like locked in.
07-24-2015, 01:16 PM
Would the Big South just let Coastal keep their football team in the conference while everything else moves to the Sun Belt?
07-24-2015, 01:22 PM
(07-24-2015 01:15 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]it'll be interesting to see if either of these happen what goes on with the WAC. NMSU looks pretty much like locked in.
NMSU may be locked in but that doesn't mean the WAC is safe. As long as nobody wants to join, it will continue to be shaky. A non-football playing conference which stretches from Seattle to Edinburg, TX. A one bid league in basketball. How long can everyone continue to afford all those annual travel miles in all sports?
07-24-2015, 01:28 PM
(07-24-2015 01:22 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:15 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]it'll be interesting to see if either of these happen what goes on with the WAC. NMSU looks pretty much like locked in.
NMSU may be locked in but that doesn't mean the WAC is safe. As long as nobody wants to join, it will continue to be shaky. A non-football playing conference which stretches from Seattle to Edinburg, TX. A one bid league in basketball. How long can everyone continue to afford all those annual travel miles in all sports?
part of it is they have pretty good travel partners...
Chicago St/UMKC
UT Pan American/New Mexico St
Grand Canyon/Utah Valley
CS Bakersfield/Seattle
Those help out quite a bit.
07-24-2015, 01:30 PM
Their football coach is a billionaire. I'm sure he would fund expansion to FBS standards on his own if that is what it took.
07-24-2015, 01:34 PM
(07-24-2015 01:16 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ]Would the Big South just let Coastal keep their football team in the conference while everything else moves to the Sun Belt?
They'd have no choice. Without Coastal, they'd be down to six football members—four full-time, two affiliate—with Liberty an ever-present flight risk. There aren't any easy options, which is why they had to invite Monmouth when Stony Brook left for the CAA.
07-24-2015, 01:41 PM
No reason Coastal couldn't take the 3 year transition route like ODU. It gives them time to upgrade facilities, meet the attendance requirements and expand their roster. They could move the rest of their sports immediately to help App St. and the rest of the Sun Belt. I'm sure the Big South is more accommodating than the CAA.
07-24-2015, 01:43 PM
(07-24-2015 01:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 12:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what happened to a Florida market?
If they add both? Could that mean an FCS team getting close enough to make 14 football members?
Missouri State and Lamar are the two. If I were the Sun Belt? I would let Lamar and Missouri State wait by the phones for an invite. If the Big 12 expands from 2 to 6? Sun Belt could lose several schools to the C-USA.
There are no Florida schools left in FCS that could afford a move.
North Florida said that they will look into adding football. This came out after Benson mentioned them as a possible candidate. North Florida is very good in baskeball last year, but all those Florida schools seems to have great baseball teams. They are in Jacksonville, but if they do decide to add football in the near future? They could play in the pro stadium until they get themselves moving along like South Alabama did.
If the Jacksonville Jaguars decides to move? What will happen to the 67,000 seat stadium? North Florida could share the stadium for now until they can get their own, or the Jaguars move which means North Florida could get it. That is if Jaguars moved.
07-24-2015, 01:50 PM
(07-24-2015 01:28 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:22 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:15 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]it'll be interesting to see if either of these happen what goes on with the WAC. NMSU looks pretty much like locked in.
NMSU may be locked in but that doesn't mean the WAC is safe. As long as nobody wants to join, it will continue to be shaky. A non-football playing conference which stretches from Seattle to Edinburg, TX. A one bid league in basketball. How long can everyone continue to afford all those annual travel miles in all sports?
part of it is they have pretty good travel partners...
Chicago St/UMKC
UT Pan American/New Mexico St
Grand Canyon/Utah Valley
CS Bakersfield/Seattle
Those help out quite a bit.
If the GNAC and Big Sky do merge? WAC could take some schools like the southern schools to form an FBS football league. Big Sky can take the northern schools. Some RMAC could be brought a board, and some Texas schools.
07-24-2015, 02:00 PM
(07-24-2015 01:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:28 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:22 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ](07-24-2015 01:15 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]it'll be interesting to see if either of these happen what goes on with the WAC. NMSU looks pretty much like locked in.
NMSU may be locked in but that doesn't mean the WAC is safe. As long as nobody wants to join, it will continue to be shaky. A non-football playing conference which stretches from Seattle to Edinburg, TX. A one bid league in basketball. How long can everyone continue to afford all those annual travel miles in all sports?
part of it is they have pretty good travel partners...
Chicago St/UMKC
UT Pan American/New Mexico St
Grand Canyon/Utah Valley
CS Bakersfield/Seattle
Those help out quite a bit.
If the GNAC and Big Sky do merge? WAC could take some schools like the southern schools to form an FBS football league. Big Sky can take the northern schools. Some RMAC could be brought a board, and some Texas schools.
Once again. The WAC can't be a FBS conference ever again. They can and I think eventually they will be a FCS conference.