Great to see the new UT President off and running with something that seems like good long term planning. If you ask me Scott Park is the weak link. It just doesn't have the ability to compete with the main campus and Health Science campus.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/201...ffort.html
(07-07-2015 05:44 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Great to see the new UT President off and running with something that seems like good long term planning. If you ask me Scott Park is the weak link. It just doesn't have the ability to compete with the main campus and Health Science campus.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/201...ffort.html
This is a great idea and long overdue. The campus looks nice, but I don't think the potential is being maximized.
Regarding Scott Park, I think the school has to define what it is and what the future holds for it. Right now, it's a mishmash of classes, admin, athletics, and alternative energy experiments. The school hasn't had a real direction for Scott Park since it abandoned the ComTech program. Hopefully this study can clear things up with it since it could be an asset if used properly.
(07-07-2015 07:53 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2015 05:44 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Great to see the new UT President off and running with something that seems like good long term planning. If you ask me Scott Park is the weak link. It just doesn't have the ability to compete with the main campus and Health Science campus.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/201...ffort.html
This is a great idea and long overdue. The campus looks nice, but I don't think the potential is being maximized.
Regarding Scott Park, I think the school has to define what it is and what the future holds for it. Right now, it's a mishmash of classes, admin, athletics, and alternative energy experiments. The school hasn't had a real direction for Scott Park since it abandoned the ComTech program. Hopefully this study can clear things up with it since it could be an asset if used properly.
I totally agree. Its almost like we are using Scott Park just because we have it. That isn't a good reason. My sense is that some of those programs move over to main campus and the ten year master plan has everything coming over. The art campus makes total sense where it is. I don't know much about the campus on the lake and what that does. If I was a betting man I would bet that all the Scott Park campus moves into Driscall Hall and that becomes the alternative energy school and then the alumni center builds something new where Rockethall is. Is this really Rocket Science? Later the athletic fields can be moved as all of the other athletic facilities are here including the proposed dining hall for athletes, etc.
(07-07-2015 08:47 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2015 07:53 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2015 05:44 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Great to see the new UT President off and running with something that seems like good long term planning. If you ask me Scott Park is the weak link. It just doesn't have the ability to compete with the main campus and Health Science campus.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/201...ffort.html
This is a great idea and long overdue. The campus looks nice, but I don't think the potential is being maximized.
Regarding Scott Park, I think the school has to define what it is and what the future holds for it. Right now, it's a mishmash of classes, admin, athletics, and alternative energy experiments. The school hasn't had a real direction for Scott Park since it abandoned the ComTech program. Hopefully this study can clear things up with it since it could be an asset if used properly.
I totally agree. Its almost like we are using Scott Park just because we have it. That isn't a good reason. My sense is that some of those programs move over to main campus and the ten year master plan has everything coming over. The art campus makes total sense where it is. I don't know much about the campus on the lake and what that does.
Lake Erie Center
BTW, the Scott Park Campus also has the Early College high school program.
(07-07-2015 08:47 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2015 07:53 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2015 05:44 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ]Great to see the new UT President off and running with something that seems like good long term planning. If you ask me Scott Park is the weak link. It just doesn't have the ability to compete with the main campus and Health Science campus.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/201...ffort.html
This is a great idea and long overdue. The campus looks nice, but I don't think the potential is being maximized.
Regarding Scott Park, I think the school has to define what it is and what the future holds for it. Right now, it's a mishmash of classes, admin, athletics, and alternative energy experiments. The school hasn't had a real direction for Scott Park since it abandoned the ComTech program. Hopefully this study can clear things up with it since it could be an asset if used properly.
I totally agree. Its almost like we are using Scott Park just because we have it. That isn't a good reason. My sense is that some of those programs move over to main campus and the ten year master plan has everything coming over. The art campus makes total sense where it is. I don't know much about the campus on the lake and what that does. If I was a betting man I would bet that all the Scott Park campus moves into Driscall Hall and that becomes the alternative energy school and then the alumni center builds something new where Rockethall is. Is this really Rocket Science? Later the athletic fields can be moved as all of the other athletic facilities are here including the proposed dining hall for athletes, etc.
If they want to move things away and tear down buildings at Scott Park. fine... But Keep the land, it's only 1 mile from Main Campus and they aren't making any more of it. Besides, who knows what new discoveries will happen in the next 50 years or so. Maybe the automotive engineering department may want to have a test track some day.
Definitely keep the land. Like I said, it could be a great asset if used for a strategic purpose. Giving up any land would be extremely short-sighted and I can't see the school doing that.
I can think of one reason for selling the Scott Park Campus land and that is if the inter-modal needed to expand.
Is the intermodal used?
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(07-08-2015 08:46 PM)indianasniff Wrote: [ -> ]Is the intermodal used?
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Yes, it's heavily used. Norfolk Southern has invested a lot into that site.
The Scott Park land really isn't worth a whole lot in terms of value. The university makes money off of the City of Toledo renting the property for The police station and the baseball facility. It makes no sense in selling that property to anyone.
(07-10-2015 12:19 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ]The Scott Park land really isn't worth a whole lot in terms of value. The university makes money off of the City of Toledo renting the property for The police station and the baseball facility. It makes no sense in selling that property to anyone.
To off load maintenance?
My reasoning for keeping it simply different. Main campus is severally landlocked, while successful Universities are growing research into new technologies. The University is not going to survive as we know it without the capability to expand Engineering and Science Lab space. They could use a test track, large industry lab, launch pad....
(07-10-2015 04:29 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2015 12:19 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ]The Scott Park land really isn't worth a whole lot in terms of value. The university makes money off of the City of Toledo renting the property for The police station and the baseball facility. It makes no sense in selling that property to anyone.
To off load maintenance?
My reasoning for keeping it simply different. Main campus is severally landlocked, while successful Universities are growing research into new technologies. The University is not going to survive as we know it without the capability to expand Engineering and Science Lab space. They could use a test track, large industry lab, launch pad....
The bolded part is why it's so valuable to keep. It's a large area of land very close the main campus and can really be an asset to the school. If the school expands the innovation enterprises/incubator program (like you suggest, and I agree with you), then Scott Park could play a big role with classes and sports moved back to the main campus.
The school just needs to figure out the best way to make Scott Park an asset and I hope this study goes a long way with that.
(07-13-2015 04:09 PM)Rocket Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2015 04:29 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2015 12:19 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ]The Scott Park land really isn't worth a whole lot in terms of value. The university makes money off of the City of Toledo renting the property for The police station and the baseball facility. It makes no sense in selling that property to anyone.
To off load maintenance?
My reasoning for keeping it simply different. Main campus is severally landlocked, while successful Universities are growing research into new technologies. The University is not going to survive as we know it without the capability to expand Engineering and Science Lab space. They could use a test track, large industry lab, launch pad....
The bolded part is why it's so valuable to keep. It's a large area of land very close the main campus and can really be an asset to the school. If the school expands the innovation enterprises/incubator program (like you suggest, and I agree with you), then Scott Park could play a big role with classes and sports moved back to the main campus.
The school just needs to figure out the best way to make Scott Park an asset and I hope this study goes a long way with that.
Scott Park will survive but it probably wont be with buildings on it long term. Nothing wrong with solar panels and recreation facilities. A campus with buildings, staff and economies of scale need to make logistical sense. That is main campus and health science campus. This is good stuff and it will be interesting to see what happens.
One of Jacobs' delusional thoughts was that he was going to turn Scott Park into a $50 million alternative energy campus. The federal funding never came through, although there are plenty of expensive signs on the property.
that may still come to pass in some form. with global warming increasing at a rate faster than most scientists predicted, it's reasonable to say in another 5-10 years there will be a much stronger consensus to go all in with alternative energy research and production. toledo and UT has been at the forefront of solar power but hasn't fully invested (or been supported on the state and federal level) in being part of a real reconstruction of our energy system. we'll see if we can make that commitment in time.