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(06-15-2015 03:10 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Using that term for homosexuals is highly inappropriate. I condemn the use of that word. Sorry, but I'm calling out slurs against people.

(06-15-2015 03:18 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:10 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Using that term for homosexuals is highly inappropriate. I condemn the use of that word. Sorry, but I'm calling out slurs against people.

Why is that funny? Last week I was called out for using the term "fundie" for a Fundamentalist Christian. Also, haven't there been several others who want people to put their money where their mouth is regarding calling people out for being hypocrites where respect is demanded for one group but it's OK to belittle another group? I hate to see any group of people belittled and marginalized. When you are allowed to marginalize someone through slurs, you dehumanize them.

(06-15-2015 03:01 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]This is not a gay issue. This is a parenting issue. This is no different than all of the young girls you see in scanty outfits. Where is the outrage over middle school and high school girls wearing 2 piece bikinis? Or how about girls wearing shorts that baaaarely end below the crotch? People have already mentioned girls being sexualized at pageants.

Show me a video of a prepubescent girl showing her chest at Mardi Gras with a crowd of grown heterosexual men hooting and hollering and I'll cede your point.

(06-15-2015 03:10 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:06 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:04 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 02:48 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]This is the road moral relativism takes you. I fully expect the next push will be to legalize pedophilia.

How did you come to this conclusion?

The faggots in the video don't leave much to the imagination.

I didn't watch the video and won't because there is a boy being sexualized within it. But to say this is moral decay based on a push for gay rights is ridiculous.

Using that term for homosexuals is highly inappropriate. I condemn the use of that word. Sorry, but I'm calling out slurs against people.

Marriage statistics for divorces are at an all time high. It also cuts across all faith groups. This statement is true whether marijuana is legalized, gay marriage is legalized in all 50 states or if more and more people put larger percentages of the bible as being allegory.

Quote: Barna report: Variation in divorce rates among Christian faith groups:

Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate)
% who have been divorced

Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Lutherans 21%

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

ETA: If you're really worried about moral decay - start with steadily climbing divorce rates.

Actually divorce rates have been trending down for awhile.

Quote:The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study.
Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

(06-15-2015 03:32 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:10 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:06 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:04 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 02:48 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]This is the road moral relativism takes you. I fully expect the next push will be to legalize pedophilia.

How did you come to this conclusion?

The faggots in the video don't leave much to the imagination.

I didn't watch the video and won't because there is a boy being sexualized within it. But to say this is moral decay based on a push for gay rights is ridiculous.

Using that term for homosexuals is highly inappropriate. I condemn the use of that word. Sorry, but I'm calling out slurs against people.

Marriage statistics for divorces are at an all time high. It also cuts across all faith groups. This statement is true whether marijuana is legalized, gay marriage is legalized in all 50 states or if more and more people put larger percentages of the bible as being allegory.

Quote: Barna report: Variation in divorce rates among Christian faith groups:

Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate)
% who have been divorced

Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Lutherans 21%

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

ETA: If you're really worried about moral decay - start with steadily climbing divorce rates.

Actually divorce rates have been trending down for awhile.

That's because more people are not getting married. But overall, divorce rates are higher among those electing to get married.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/12/1...ecord-low/

Quote:Divorce is a factor in diminishing the share of adults who are currently married compared with 50 years ago. But divorce rates have leveled off in the past two decades after climbing through the 1960s and 1970s, so divorce plays less of a role than it used to.4

So on one hand it's correct that divorce rates have leveled off. But overall, the rates are still higher.

(06-15-2015 03:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:01 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]This is not a gay issue. This is a parenting issue. This is no different than all of the young girls you see in scanty outfits. Where is the outrage over middle school and high school girls wearing 2 piece bikinis? Or how about girls wearing shorts that baaaarely end below the crotch? People have already mentioned girls being sexualized at pageants.

Show me a video of a prepubescent girl showing her chest at Mardi Gras with a crowd of grown heterosexual men hooting and hollering and I'll cede your point.

In our culture, bare chested men are not 'sexual' as bare chested women are. Having said that, if the young girl were in hot pants and a bra/bikini top in a parade or in the quarter, that too would be a problem. Some cheerleader outfits push the limit... but at least those are teens/almost adults.

I understand that most of the people in that video are merely celebrating a young person who feels free to express themselves as many of them probably didn't feel comfortable doing at his age, but that doesn't mean that all of them are. If the kid wants to put on harem pants and a tank top, go for it. You're a dancer. If he's wearing booty shorts, he's emulating a stripper and that is a problem... just like the pre-teen girl in the mardi-gras parade would be.

I am more concerned with the crowd's reaction than what the boy is doing. That should be unacceptable in any culture/subculture.

Regarding divorce rates: too late to edit since someone responded after me, so I'll put it here. It better explains what I was trying to state earlier.

(06-15-2015 03:21 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Why is that funny?

Its funny b/c I don't think I have ever seen anyone throw such a fit over the word ****** and I hear it almost daily.

(06-15-2015 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding divorce rates: too late to edit since someone responded after me, so I'll put it here. It better explains what I was trying to state earlier.

Why are you trying to make this about divorce?

(06-15-2015 04:03 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding divorce rates: too late to edit since someone responded after me, so I'll put it here. It better explains what I was trying to state earlier.

Why are you trying to make this about divorce?

Yeah no kidding.

It's nice to know that some of you will try anything you can to legitimize your bigotry.

Jerry Seinfeld would like a word with you.

I wish.

(06-15-2015 04:12 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 04:03 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:58 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Regarding divorce rates: too late to edit since someone responded after me, so I'll put it here. It better explains what I was trying to state earlier.

Why are you trying to make this about divorce?

Yeah no kidding.

Someone made the claim that looking upon homosexuality as being acceptable is moral relativism and thus this country will go down the tubes because of it. I made the counterpoint that if he's worried about "moral decay", it's been very much alive and well for quite some time. My point is that real moral decay can be proxied best by looking at what's going on with the marriage statistics. As I showed, the sanctity of marriage has long been tarnished well before the gay rights agenda asking for inclusion into the marriage club. It cuts across all walks of life, and it does not matter what denomination you are or what religion you are. Less and less people are getting married today and the divorce rates are higher since the 70s through today than in any other time period in U.S. history.

But make no mistake, same sex attraction and marriage is linked in today's current events. You will never have a discussion about homosexuality without taking the logical next step and including marriage as part of the discussion.

(06-15-2015 04:01 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:21 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Why is that funny?

Its funny b/c I don't think I have ever seen anyone throw such a fit over the word ****** and I hear it almost daily.

I'm not having a fit over it. It's called consistency. I'm not going to have someone accuse me of having a double standard. Regardless of who says it, I'll call someone out for a slur. I was recently, and from now on I'll type out the word "Fundamentalist" or use the acronym IFB (independent fundamentalist baptist) instead of the shortened word I used last week that someone did not like. I can appreciate that and will try to be as consistent as possible moving forward.

FYI, I used to hear that term commonly used when I was a kid. I hear no one use that word in common speech anywhere around me today nor in the other places I lived in the past 10 years.

(06-15-2015 02:21 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't watch the video, but I can't imagine it's much worse than some of the stuff we have little girls do on those ridiculous pageants.

I'm not against those pageants per se... I'm merely against the sexualization of children

^ This x1000

(06-15-2015 03:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:01 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]This is not a gay issue. This is a parenting issue. This is no different than all of the young girls you see in scanty outfits. Where is the outrage over middle school and high school girls wearing 2 piece bikinis? Or how about girls wearing shorts that baaaarely end below the crotch? People have already mentioned girls being sexualized at pageants.

Somebody else can correct me if I'm wrong but part of the outrage is over the homosexual pedophiles standing around cheering this kid on.

Which ones were they? I bet the police would love to utilize your powers!

(06-15-2015 03:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-15-2015 03:01 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]This is not a gay issue. This is a parenting issue. This is no different than all of the young girls you see in scanty outfits. Where is the outrage over middle school and high school girls wearing 2 piece bikinis? Or how about girls wearing shorts that baaaarely end below the crotch? People have already mentioned girls being sexualized at pageants.

Show me a video of a prepubescent girl showing her chest at Mardi Gras with a crowd of grown heterosexual men hooting and hollering and I'll cede your point.

I guess I must have missed the part in the video where the kid was showing his privates. Or are you saying that men/boys can't go shirtless in public any more?