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(08-03-2017 08:57 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]When was that posted? That vid is from 2 summers ago?


I love that picture of the GA State Stadium and how there looks like a patio deck on that one side by the Video scoreboard. Is that as "open" for standing room as it looks?

Yes it is. Its the old Braves Chop House restaurant now renamed the State House. Team has been eating meals there this summer.
With opening day just a little over 3 weeks from tonight,

Here are a few pictures from our last year in the MAC. Cold mid-week night game.

Jokers to the left of me.
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Jokers to the right of me.
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Here I am stuck in the middle again.
Wonder if New Mexico State could start appearing on our future schedules.

Personally like to see the Maine game scheduled for Nov 30th, 2019 and start playing New Mexico State with a home date of September 28th, 2019.

This would leave Sept 7th and 21st available for a home and away game to complete the 2019 schedule.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-...hedule.php

From Mike Traini.

Quote:The Minutemen/Flames contest in 2019 is UMass' first home game with a date for McGuirk Stadium in Amherst. UMass will be hosting UConn and BYU at Gillette Stadium in 2019, and will host Maine in Amherst on a date to be determined. The Minutemen still need two more home games in 2019 to tentatively complete their schedule for that season.

UMass will travel to Liberty to close out the 2020 season, playing the Flames in the final weekend of the year. UMass now has six games tentatively scheduled for the 2020 season and five games tentatively scheduled for the 2021 season. All four contests are scheduled for November, traditionally the most difficult month for independent programs to schedule games.

http://umass.247sports.com/Bolt/Dates-se...-105805649
(08-05-2017 09:40 AM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder if New Mexico State could start appearing on our future schedules.

Personally like to see the Maine game scheduled for Nov 30th, 2019 and start playing New Mexico State with a home date of September 28th, 2019.

This would leave Sept 7th and 21st available for a home and away game to complete the 2019 schedule.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-...hedule.php
Has UMass tried to schedule games against former A10 opponents such as Penn State, Pittsburgh, Temple, WVU and Virginia Tech?
(08-05-2017 12:27 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-05-2017 09:40 AM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder if New Mexico State could start appearing on our future schedules.

Personally like to see the Maine game scheduled for Nov 30th, 2019 and start playing New Mexico State with a home date of September 28th, 2019.

This would leave Sept 7th and 21st available for a home and away game to complete the 2019 schedule.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-19/2019-...hedule.php
Has UMass tried to schedule games against former A10 opponents such as Penn State, Pittsburgh, Temple, WVU and Virginia Tech?

We played Penn State (buy game) and Temple a number of times. Will be down in the Lincoln on September 15th. If I can get coverage at work, will be at that game. WEealso have Rutgers on the schedule for 2019.
(08-03-2017 07:34 AM)EmeryZach Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-02-2017 11:59 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes they can get some games but they don't have bowl and TV contracts that are provided in the security of a conference. My initial response was that there are no conference openings to apply for at this time now that they shot the MAC offer down by refusing to move their Olympic Sports there. And there probably will not be an opening for them in the AAC unless that conference is gutted in the next realignment period when the GOR and TV contracts are renegotiated around 2025. 07-coffee3 04-cheers

We just signed a new TV contract with Eleven Sports (new name for a previous British owned sports network), which is on Fios, Direct TV, etc, and will have the games broadcast on NESN and NESNplus. We also get to keep the rights to stream the games on our UMass website. Obviously don't know the specifics and I'm not sure if they are paying us anything beyond production costs, but it's at least a start. Eleven Sports also has the rights to Ivy League football and Big Sky.

http://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-football...s-11645117

Good to see your getting some TV revenue. Is it equal to what you were getting from the MAC. If it is then tied to the money you get from the A-10 for TV and BB credits, and the roughly $250k you should be getting from the CFP system, the school should be close to the total you had while in the MAC minus bowl revenue. Grab a bowl slot and UMASS is back to approximately the combined MAC and A-10 revenue you had while in the MAC. Am I close with this line of thinking. The only thing I am missing then is a shot at a Conference Title Game which would give UMASS one more potential game and another shot at additional revenue. UMASS should consider playing Hawaii every year at Hawaii or at least every other year. It would be like an in season bowl game for recruiting purposes and provide an additional home game the years you play out there until you can secure conference membership again for your football team. 04-cheers
(08-06-2017 12:04 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2017 07:34 AM)EmeryZach Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-02-2017 11:59 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes they can get some games but they don't have bowl and TV contracts that are provided in the security of a conference. My initial response was that there are no conference openings to apply for at this time now that they shot the MAC offer down by refusing to move their Olympic Sports there. And there probably will not be an opening for them in the AAC unless that conference is gutted in the next realignment period when the GOR and TV contracts are renegotiated around 2025. 07-coffee3 04-cheers

We just signed a new TV contract with Eleven Sports (new name for a previous British owned sports network), which is on Fios, Direct TV, etc, and will have the games broadcast on NESN and NESNplus. We also get to keep the rights to stream the games on our UMass website. Obviously don't know the specifics and I'm not sure if they are paying us anything beyond production costs, but it's at least a start. Eleven Sports also has the rights to Ivy League football and Big Sky.

http://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-football...s-11645117

Good to see your getting some TV revenue. Is it equal to what you were getting from the MAC. If it is then tied to the money you get from the A-10 for TV and BB credits, and the roughly $250k you should be getting from the CFP system, the school should be close to the total you had while in the MAC minus bowl revenue. Grab a bowl slot and UMASS is back to approximately the combined MAC and A-10 revenue you had while in the MAC. Am I close with this line of thinking. The only thing I am missing then is a shot at a Conference Title Game which would give UMASS one more potential game and another shot at additional revenue. UMASS should consider playing Hawaii every year at Hawaii or at least every other year. It would be like an in season bowl game for recruiting purposes and provide an additional home game the years you play out there until you can secure conference membership again for your football team. 04-cheers

I'm educated guessing we are receiving about 2 million less than with the MAC for CFP and TV; minus any extra bowl money. With the A10 revenue its about one extra buy game less. So we are doing two or more buy games a year. Last year we turned down one TV offer that was about 10% of the MAC individual team rate for greater exposure. Guessing that is what is happening with this new deal.
(08-06-2017 12:26 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 12:04 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2017 07:34 AM)EmeryZach Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-02-2017 11:59 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes they can get some games but they don't have bowl and TV contracts that are provided in the security of a conference. My initial response was that there are no conference openings to apply for at this time now that they shot the MAC offer down by refusing to move their Olympic Sports there. And there probably will not be an opening for them in the AAC unless that conference is gutted in the next realignment period when the GOR and TV contracts are renegotiated around 2025. 07-coffee3 04-cheers

We just signed a new TV contract with Eleven Sports (new name for a previous British owned sports network), which is on Fios, Direct TV, etc, and will have the games broadcast on NESN and NESNplus. We also get to keep the rights to stream the games on our UMass website. Obviously don't know the specifics and I'm not sure if they are paying us anything beyond production costs, but it's at least a start. Eleven Sports also has the rights to Ivy League football and Big Sky.

http://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-football...s-11645117

Good to see your getting some TV revenue. Is it equal to what you were getting from the MAC. If it is then tied to the money you get from the A-10 for TV and BB credits, and the roughly $250k you should be getting from the CFP system, the school should be close to the total you had while in the MAC minus bowl revenue. Grab a bowl slot and UMASS is back to approximately the combined MAC and A-10 revenue you had while in the MAC. Am I close with this line of thinking. The only thing I am missing then is a shot at a Conference Title Game which would give UMASS one more potential game and another shot at additional revenue. UMASS should consider playing Hawaii every year at Hawaii or at least every other year. It would be like an in season bowl game for recruiting purposes and provide an additional home game the years you play out there until you can secure conference membership again for your football team. 04-cheers

I'm educated guessing we are receiving about 2 million less than with the MAC for CFP and TV; minus any extra bowl money. With the A10 revenue its about one extra buy game less. So we are doing two or more buy games a year. Last year we turned down one TV offer that was about 10% of the MAC individual team rate for greater exposure. Guessing that is what is happening with this new deal.

How long can UMASS survive as an independent? Look at what happened to Idaho… and UAB football went abracadabra/hocus-pocus….
Have you read the last two pages of this thread?

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(08-06-2017 08:37 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]Have you read the last two pages of this thread?

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I scanned through them... didn't see any long term plan like what GSU is doing with its stadium. Congrats on such a monumental accomplishment. UMASS will have to do something similar just to get consideration from the American….
(08-06-2017 12:26 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 12:04 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2017 07:34 AM)EmeryZach Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-02-2017 11:59 PM)panite Wrote: [ -> ]Yes they can get some games but they don't have bowl and TV contracts that are provided in the security of a conference. My initial response was that there are no conference openings to apply for at this time now that they shot the MAC offer down by refusing to move their Olympic Sports there. And there probably will not be an opening for them in the AAC unless that conference is gutted in the next realignment period when the GOR and TV contracts are renegotiated around 2025. 07-coffee3 04-cheers

We just signed a new TV contract with Eleven Sports (new name for a previous British owned sports network), which is on Fios, Direct TV, etc, and will have the games broadcast on NESN and NESNplus. We also get to keep the rights to stream the games on our UMass website. Obviously don't know the specifics and I'm not sure if they are paying us anything beyond production costs, but it's at least a start. Eleven Sports also has the rights to Ivy League football and Big Sky.

http://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-football...s-11645117

Good to see your getting some TV revenue. Is it equal to what you were getting from the MAC. If it is then tied to the money you get from the A-10 for TV and BB credits, and the roughly $250k you should be getting from the CFP system, the school should be close to the total you had while in the MAC minus bowl revenue. Grab a bowl slot and UMASS is back to approximately the combined MAC and A-10 revenue you had while in the MAC. Am I close with this line of thinking. The only thing I am missing then is a shot at a Conference Title Game which would give UMASS one more potential game and another shot at additional revenue. UMASS should consider playing Hawaii every year at Hawaii or at least every other year. It would be like an in season bowl game for recruiting purposes and provide an additional home game the years you play out there until you can secure conference membership again for your football team. 04-cheers

I'm educated guessing we are receiving about 2 million less than with the MAC for CFP and TV; minus any extra bowl money. With the A10 revenue its about one extra buy game less. So we are doing two or more buy games a year. Last year we turned down one TV offer that was about 10% of the MAC individual team rate for greater exposure. Guessing that is what is happening with this new deal.

I know you will disagree with me, but UMASS should have taken the MAC’s all-sports invite. It could have continued to develop its football program and possibly win some MAC bball championships....
They have a TV deal as an independent. They seem to be doing fine.

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(08-06-2017 09:03 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]They have a TV deal as an independent. They seem to be doing fine.

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...for now... but is it sustainable? The MAC offered stability to UMASS in regards to its football program along with more TV $$—which I ascertained from reading a post by Steve1981 .
Still think they will be fine until The Cataclysm.

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(08-06-2017 09:37 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:03 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]They have a TV deal as an independent. They seem to be doing fine.

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...for now... but is it sustainable? The MAC offered stability to UMASS in regards to its football program along with more TV $$—which I ascertained from reading a post by Steve1981 .

The A10 provides both TV and NCAA credits for revenue. One extra buy game balances things out. The football program may had more stability in the MAC, but only by a slight degree. We have no problem scheduling and able to schedule more up and down the east coast. Can't wait for the season to begin in less than 19 days!
(08-06-2017 09:54 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:37 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:03 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]They have a TV deal as an independent. They seem to be doing fine.

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...for now... but is it sustainable? The MAC offered stability to UMASS in regards to its football program along with more TV $$—which I ascertained from reading a post by Steve1981 .

The A10 provides both TV and NCAA credits for revenue. One extra buy game balances things out. The football program may had more stability with being in the MAC, but only by a slight degree. We have no problem scheduling and able to schedule more up and down the east coast. Can't wait for the season to begin in less than 19 days!

In the MAC, UMASS had bowl tie-ins and something to play for: A possible MAC championship and New Year’s Bowl if it finished as the highest ranked G5 champion. Furthermore, UMASS likely could have recruited better players while in the MAC. Its football team basically has nothing to look forward to except for a “possible” bowl invite. Consequently, I just don't see it lasting long term, but I could be wrong....
(08-06-2017 10:12 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:54 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:37 PM)Underdog Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-06-2017 09:03 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]They have a TV deal as an independent. They seem to be doing fine.

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...for now... but is it sustainable? The MAC offered stability to UMASS in regards to its football program along with more TV $$—which I ascertained from reading a post by Steve1981 .

The A10 provides both TV and NCAA credits for revenue. One extra buy game balances things out. The football program may had more stability with being in the MAC, but only by a slight degree. We have no problem scheduling and able to schedule more up and down the east coast. Can't wait for the season to begin in less than 19 days!

In the MAC, UMASS had bowl tie-ins and something to play for: A possible MAC championship and New Year’s Bowl if it finished as the highest ranked G5 champion. Furthermore, UMASS likely could have recruited better players while in the MAC. Its football team basically has nothing to look forward to except for a “possible” bowl invite. Consequently, I just don't see it lasting long term, but I could be wrong....
The last post has valid points, however we've been recruiting at the MAC level and that looks to continue. Will go along that we could do a little better being the MAC.
Football would be better if we stayed in the MAC - that is arguably and probably true.

The problem was/is that the rest of the athletics programs would suffer dropping down to the MAC and that was not in the cards. The only possible exception to that would have been if Temple went all in MAC too.

After Basketball and Football, Umass has been pretty competitive in everything else (hockey has been marginal too, but that was not part of any moves - that will always been Hockey East). The overall travel budget increases for everything was just too much for maybe/possibly football recovering that cost down the road. There was also absolutely no fan interest in MAC here. Call it snobby or whatever, but Amherst could give a rats arse about directional Michigan/Ohio based schools on a weekly basis. There is just nothing to get behind there.

Umass has the resources to let this play out until the FBS conference implosion in a few years. In the mean time they have done a pretty good job scheduling for some exposure. As long as the number of bowls does not drop, they can hopefully start looking at December games next season and with any luck maybe one this year?

Today we should be farther along in this process, but Molnar did a lot of damage - granted he started behind the 8 ball with the horrid roster he inherited, but he was a marketing nightmare with the fans too. As a Western Mass native - it was obvious to me that he never ever even once looked at the audience he was playing too when he started opening his mouth. He turned off more than he turned on for sure. Pouring salt an that wound was bad AD to boot.

It took Whip 2 years to undo what Molnar did; and now we have a really good AD who gets it. Umass is starting to show some signs of life in Football and Basketball.

The plan is to get fully up to speed when the next round of conference moves start and we have become a more valuable commodity.
(08-07-2017 08:16 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]Football would be better if we stayed in the MAC - that is arguably and probably true.

The problem was/is that the rest of the athletics programs would suffer dropping down to the MAC and that was not in the cards. The only possible exception to that would have been if Temple went all in MAC too.

After Basketball and Football, Umass has been pretty competitive in everything else (hockey has been marginal too, but that was not part of any moves - that will always been Hockey East). The overall travel budget increases for everything was just too much for maybe/possibly football recovering that cost down the road. There was also absolutely no fan interest in MAC here. Call it snobby or whatever, but Amherst could give a rats arse about directional Michigan/Ohio based schools on a weekly basis. There is just nothing to get behind there.

Umass has the resources to let this play out until the FBS conference implosion in a few years. In the mean time they have done a pretty good job scheduling for some exposure. As long as the number of bowls does not drop, they can hopefully start looking at December games next season and with any luck maybe one this year?

Today we should be farther along in this process, but Molnar did a lot of damage - granted he started behind the 8 ball with the horrid roster he inherited, but he was a marketing nightmare with the fans too. As a Western Mass native - it was obvious to me that he never ever even once looked at the audience he was playing too when he started opening his mouth. He turned off more than he turned on for sure. Pouring salt an that wound was bad AD to boot.

It took Whip 2 years to undo what Molnar did; and now we have a really good AD who gets it. Umass is starting to show some signs of life in Football and Basketball.

The plan is to get fully up to speed when the next round of conference moves start and we have become a more valuable commodity.


The plan is to get fully up to speed when the next round of conference moves start and we have become a more valuable commodity.

Hopefully everything works out. Until then UMASS needs to expand / upgrade their stadium to at least 25k to have a shot at the AAC where they seem to want to go for all sports. UMASS, UCONN, and Temple would make a nice NE rivalry for FB and BB in the AAC if UMASS can join the AAC someday. 04-cheers
CBS Sports weighed in on UMass Football

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