From dream to reality? If UAB football is reinstated, how long, and what it will take, to bring it back
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...uab_f.html
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The once unthinkable now seems possible: UAB football could be resurrected.
UAB boosters are feverishly working to raise enough funds to persuade UAB president Ray Watts that reinstating the team, which was shut down in December, will be financially feasible. Watts has said he will announce his decision by June 1.
Is football if reinstated, what can fans expect?
For starters, a team likely won't return to the Football Bowl Series (FBS) level until 2017, if not later if the Blazers are forced to play Football Championship Series (FCS) level competition during their "comeback" season. Even that could be an aggressive timeline given how long it has taken other startup programs to reach that level of competition.
Not sure Tally is correct about that. I'll trust Clark and if that's the route we are forced to go so be it. Last check we would not have to go that route.
I'd bet Watts uses some things in this article for his ammo...accuracy be damned.
UAB wouldn't be a "startup" program, though. The infrastructure is in place. The only thing that will be somewhat tough is scheduling, but that won't be insurmountable.
CUSA would go to bat for UAB with the NCAA if the NCAA were going to be stupid enough to make UAB play FCS for a couple of years. The story around the program and the interest it will generate nationwide, and the money it would generate if UAB happened to make a bowl game, is enough to keep that from happening.
(05-24-2015 09:42 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]CUSA would go to bat for UAB with the NCAA if the NCAA were going to be stupid enough to make UAB play FCS for a couple of years. The story around the program and the interest it will generate nationwide, and the money it would generate if UAB happened to make a bowl game, is enough to keep that from happening.
We still haven't missed a down of football yet, and if we reinstate by June 1st, we'd only be missing the 2015 season due to not having enough players. I don't see how we are disqualified from being FBS for 2016.
Watts made his announcement and everyone transferred or took other jobs, but as far as the NCAA is concerned, we still have a football team because we haven't had a season without one yet. Right?
If that waiver to oversign doesn't go through, we might have a running clock 70-0 kind of season, but I'll still be there to see it.
(05-24-2015 09:42 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]UAB wouldn't be a "startup" program, though. The infrastructure is in place. The only thing that will be somewhat tough is scheduling, but that won't be insurmountable.
CUSA would go to bat for UAB with the NCAA if the NCAA were going to be stupid enough to make UAB play FCS for a couple of years. The story around the program and the interest it will generate nationwide, and the money it would generate if UAB happened to make a bowl game, is enough to keep that from happening.
I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
(05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 09:42 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]UAB wouldn't be a "startup" program, though. The infrastructure is in place. The only thing that will be somewhat tough is scheduling, but that won't be insurmountable.
CUSA would go to bat for UAB with the NCAA if the NCAA were going to be stupid enough to make UAB play FCS for a couple of years. The story around the program and the interest it will generate nationwide, and the money it would generate if UAB happened to make a bowl game, is enough to keep that from happening.
I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
I think so, as long as it's part of moving back up.
(05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
Yeah this article is gonna have Ray fapping all weekend. As others have said this is not the same as when Georgia State, FIU or UTSA started a program.
(05-24-2015 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
WHO makes that "choice"? I would suppose FBHC Clark stays for the length of his contract at least. Keeping him beyond that would depend upon the commitment to facility development (shovels moving dirt - not just promises) to support the program. UAB will have to build at least to the level of the better high school's programs in Alabama.
(05-24-2015 12:36 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
WHO makes that "choice"? I would suppose FBHC Clark stays for the length of his contract at least. Keeping him beyond that would depend upon the commitment to facility development (shovels moving dirt - not just promises) to support the program. UAB will have to build at least to the level of the better high school's programs in Alabama.
Bill Clark does not have a contract. That contract was bought out.
(05-24-2015 05:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 12:36 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
WHO makes that "choice"? I would suppose FBHC Clark stays for the length of his contract at least. Keeping him beyond that would depend upon the commitment to facility development (shovels moving dirt - not just promises) to support the program. UAB will have to build at least to the level of the better high school's programs in Alabama.
Bill Clark does not have a contract. That contract was bought out.
Yes. Junior could cave on restoring football, but impose one of his drinking buddies again, like Ellis Johnson or Neil Callaway.
(05-24-2015 05:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 12:36 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
WHO makes that "choice"? I would suppose FBHC Clark stays for the length of his contract at least. Keeping him beyond that would depend upon the commitment to facility development (shovels moving dirt - not just promises) to support the program. UAB will have to build at least to the level of the better high school's programs in Alabama.
Bill Clark does not have a contract. That contract was bought out.
I was thinking that Clark was working out his "10 year to be vested in the state TRS" period of time. Is he just sticking around as a volunteer hoping the FB program will be resumed? Just what is his UAB status then?
(05-24-2015 07:58 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 05:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 12:36 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 11:23 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2015 10:13 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. However, what if we somehow have to do FCS for one season...does Clark stay?
If we HAVE to do FCS? Possibly.
If we CHOOSE to do FCS? Hell no.
WHO makes that "choice"? I would suppose FBHC Clark stays for the length of his contract at least. Keeping him beyond that would depend upon the commitment to facility development (shovels moving dirt - not just promises) to support the program. UAB will have to build at least to the level of the better high school's programs in Alabama.
Bill Clark does not have a contract. That contract was bought out.
I was thinking that Clark was working out his "10 year to be vested in the state TRS" period of time. Is he just sticking around as a volunteer hoping the FB program will be resumed? Just what is his UAB status then?
Severance can be paid out in a way that you are not an employee yet it still counts as TRS time.