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Northern Kentucky to the Horizon. ASun can not be too happy about this move.

ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

When/if does folding the league entirely become a possibility?

It is upsetting to me to see Northern Kentucky surpass us in basketball prestige. The Horizon league is a very solid basketball conference.

(05-10-2015 05:58 AM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

When/if does folding the league entirely become a possibility?

It is upsetting to me to see Northern Kentucky surpass us in basketball prestige. The Horizon league is a very solid basketball conference.

Well to be fair we have had a 14 year stretch with petulance court side. Give us three seasons and we'll be eclipsing much more significant programs than N Kentucky.

(05-10-2015 05:58 AM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

When/if does folding the league entirely become a possibility?

It is upsetting to me to sebe Northern Kentucky surpass us in basketball prestige. The Horizon league is a very solid basketball conference.

How did NKU pass us in prestige? If you're referring to the Horizon League, I think the SOCON is a better league. If seeding in the tournament is any indication, Wofford earned a 12-seed and and Valpo a 13. With Mercer, Wofford, UTC, and the resurgent Bucs, I like the SOCON 's trajectory and have faith that ETSU will return to midmajor prominence in very short order.

Thank goodness for Sander - we'd be sinking with the rest of ASUN teams if Mullins was still at ETSU.

(05-10-2015 08:16 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote: [ -> ]Thank goodness for Sander - we'd be sinking with the rest of ASUN teams if Mullins was still at ETSU.

Amen to that.

(05-10-2015 05:58 AM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

When/if does folding the league entirely become a possibility?

It is upsetting to me to see Northern Kentucky surpass us in basketball prestige. The Horizon league is a very solid basketball conference.

SoCon and Horizon are comparable leagues. Both have a couple of pretty good teams at top, 2-3 okays in the middle, and the rest are "who cares" teams. NKY was middle of the road in a bad ASun and will be a bottom feeder in Horizon. Probably a good move for them financially but not competitively. Based on RPI Horizon was 17th and SoCon 24th primarily because Horizon teams play little better non-con schedules and bottom end of SoCon is so bad. ASun is definitely in trouble as there isn't a program in that league that really has anywhere else to go given issues like geography, lack of football programs, etc. given time NKY may be able to recruit better in Horizon and develop something but right now they haven't passed anybody in prestige.

So how soon before FGCU evacuates the ASun on its Dunk City passport? I feel like FGCU's old news is the only thing holding up the ASun at this point.

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

It will be 6 very soon as Kennesaw takes all its athletic teams to the Big South.

(05-10-2015 05:43 PM)Buc66 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

It will be 6 very soon as Kennesaw takes all its athletic teams to the Big South.

Very likely since football is already Big South. On the other hand, FGCU really has no where to go without football

You would think that Kennesaw would go, but they had the opportunity when they put football in the Big South and it didn't happen. There's a lot of thought out there that if KSU gets its' act together that the Sun Belt will jump all over them the first chance they get, but they're in such a mess with men's basketball and just starting football that they're not that attractive. The Big South honestly was desperate for football schools when they took them.
I feel bad for Lipscomb in all this, they're at a pretty serious crossroads.

(05-10-2015 09:53 AM)Just Buc Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:58 AM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-10-2015 05:10 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]ASUN down to 7 schools. Who do they pick up?

When/if does folding the league entirely become a possibility?

It is upsetting to me to see Northern Kentucky surpass us in basketball prestige. The Horizon league is a very solid basketball conference.

SoCon and Horizon are comparable leagues. Both have a couple of pretty good teams at top, 2-3 okays in the middle, and the rest are "who cares" teams. NKY was middle of the road in a bad ASun and will be a bottom feeder in Horizon. Probably a good move for them financially but not competitively. Based on RPI Horizon was 17th and SoCon 24th primarily because Horizon teams play little better non-con schedules and bottom end of SoCon is so bad. ASun is definitely in trouble as there isn't a program in that league that really has anywhere else to go given issues like geography, lack of football programs, etc. given time NKY may be able to recruit better in Horizon and develop something but right now they haven't passed anybody in prestige.

The Horizon has been significantly better than the Southern over the years in terms of RPI. They aren't really that comparable, the Horizon has been a multi-bid league twice in the last 6 years.

2014-15
Horizon-RPI 16
Southern-RPI 24

2013-14
Horizon- RPI 14
Southern- RPI 30

2012-13
Horizon-RPI 12
Southern-RPI 27

2011-12
Horizon-RPI 14
Southern-23

2010-11
Horizon-RPI 11
Southern RPI 19

Horizon is a better basketball conference. I agree that it's little upsetting to see a school like NKU get in the Horizon but we are a much better fit in the Socon than a conference like the Horizon. Let's just hope Noland and Sander are hopefully working on a plan to eventually get ETSU in the Sun Belt or CUSA one day.

Agreed the Horizon is clearly better. But it just isn't us. Plus how would you like to go to Detroit for a conference tourney? We need to take care of business in the SoCon for at least the next 5 years. After that, hopefully we can be on our way to moving up to better places. But by then the conference landscape will most likely have changed...again.

A-Sun statement on membership. Attempt to calm schools/fans/press

http://atlanticsun.org/sports/mbkb/2014-...05115qtm2p

If only Sander and Noland had been present when the Ohio Valley came calling.

With the Atlantic Sun needing to expand, should the Southern Conference be proactive and expand by two football playing schools? Currently the Southern stands at 10 members with 1 non-football school (UNCG). By adding two, the conference would have 12 members with 11 playing football. Schools would play 10 conference games a year with 5 home and 5 away games. Possibilities include Coastal Carolina and Kennesaw State on the public school side and Presbyterian and Liberty on the private school side.

Coastal and Liberty, yes. KSU and Presby, NO.

Liberty has made it pretty clear their next move it to FBS competition.
This would be mind numbing but the way the current SoCon operates it would look something like Gardner Webb and Coastal Carolina. One public, one private.