This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
I don't read it that way at all. They mentioned Ray's excuse but didn't endorse it. The only opinion they gave on UAB football was Troy's AD and he basically says exactly what we've been saying.
The Troy AD quotes a recruit as saying "Who will put the most in my pocket?" If an already existing "cost of attendance" is being described, the question is "Who will pay it, the student or the school's Athletic Department?" Right now, ALL funds for athletic scholarships are paid directly to the school with none going to the student athlete. If a student athlete is making the huge income of athletic departments possible ($151 million for UA and $113 million for AU annually), a comparative pittance in pocket money is a drop in the bucket. Right now his / her only source of income is the risky money from sports agents, boosters or memorabilia peddlers while their coaches can still rake in large fees for speaking to affluent groups.
(04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
Andy Schwarz @andyhre ·
...There is no conference in FBS football where the expected COA Stipend cost exceeds the expected expected increase in CFP $ vs old BCS $.
...That is, any FBS football school claiming they don't have new money for stipends is forgetting/ignoring all the new money.
(04-15-2015 01:11 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]Andy Schwarz @andyhre ·
...There is no conference in FBS football where the expected COA Stipend cost exceeds the expected expected increase in CFP $ vs old BCS $.
...That is, any FBS football school claiming they don't have new money for stipends is forgetting/ignoring all the new money.
That pretty much sums up the general opinion.
As far as that article goes, it really goes back to determining if a trend is going to abruptly appear where people stop playing football despite the money coming in just because of marginal costs. I think the key thing here, though, is not really the cost of attendance, but more of the opportunity it provides for some administrators across the country to make a case for backing out of it.
There are some schools are there that honestly have some lingering concerns, but it's just that the benefits of just having a football team have far outweighed the cost associated with it for most.
(04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
This wasn't a UAB-specific article. It was about how all schools across the country and a highlight on how the Troy and USA ADs view COA.
(04-15-2015 02:40 PM)UABslant Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
This wasn't a UAB-specific article. It was about how all schools across the country and a highlight on how the Troy and USA ADs view COA.
I'm aware of that. But given the market they are writing for and the references to UAB and other "mid majors" I feel it is relevant. Not saying the writer intends that message, but when you are writing in our market and you have folks looking for justification of the UAB move to eliminate football, they will latch on to the claim that UAB did it for these purposes.
If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu. Watts opened "Pandora' s Box" and has given other school's crooked administrations out there a blueprint (however bungling and incompetent he is) to try something similar in the future. Hope I'm wrong, but someone else out there's gonna try something like this, and use UAB 's case as an example for justification.
The difference being though that the board for that school would have the president's ass or at least the alum would hang any bastard that tried this.
Accept that UAB will be mentioned whenever costs for athletic programs is discussed since it remains the ONLY EXAMPLE of a state university's FBS football program being discontinued in America. Since we know those costs really had nothing - or very little - to do with what was done, it may remain the only one in the nation for many years. UAB may have been the only football program stalked by a hostile BOT over a decade until they finally got someone to act on their designs.
(04-17-2015 06:51 AM)Matrix Wrote: [ -> ]If you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu. Watts opened "Pandora' s Box" and has given other school's crooked administrations out there a blueprint (however bungling and incompetent he is) to try something similar in the future. Hope I'm wrong, but someone else out there's gonna try something like this, and use UAB 's case as an example for justification.
This.
As night follows day, it is bound to happen. Only ?? is where and when
(04-15-2015 02:43 PM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 02:40 PM)UABslant Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
This wasn't a UAB-specific article. It was about how all schools across the country and a highlight on how the Troy and USA ADs view COA.
I'm aware of that. But given the market they are writing for and the references to UAB and other "mid majors" I feel it is relevant. Not saying the writer intends that message, but when you are writing in our market and you have folks looking for justification of the UAB move to eliminate football, they will latch on to the claim that UAB did it for these purposes.
This article was written by Mike Herndon of the Mobile Press Register. His market is South Alabama and, to a lesser extent, Troy. the UAB reference was more or less an offhand comment.
(04-17-2015 01:36 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 02:43 PM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 02:40 PM)UABslant Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
This wasn't a UAB-specific article. It was about how all schools across the country and a highlight on how the Troy and USA ADs view COA.
I'm aware of that. But given the market they are writing for and the references to UAB and other "mid majors" I feel it is relevant. Not saying the writer intends that message, but when you are writing in our market and you have folks looking for justification of the UAB move to eliminate football, they will latch on to the claim that UAB did it for these purposes.
This article was written by Mike Herndon of the Mobile Press Register. His market is South Alabama and, to a lesser extent, Troy. the UAB reference was more or less an offhand comment.
Since the article was written for AL.com, it goes statewide to the web sites of papers in Huntsville and B'ham as well as the Mobile paper.
COA is not a choice of paying or not. The choice is whether the student must somehow come up with the money alone or if the school will help out. The cost is still there regardless so it must come from someone's pocket.
(04-18-2015 12:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2015 01:36 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 02:43 PM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 02:40 PM)UABslant Wrote: [ -> ] (04-15-2015 09:54 AM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]This story tries to divert attention from the real issue: the corrupt UA BOT. Whether it was the intention or not, it would seem they are again trying to get people to make a connection to UAB's elimination of football and the changing landscape of college football.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...cart_river
This wasn't a UAB-specific article. It was about how all schools across the country and a highlight on how the Troy and USA ADs view COA.
I'm aware of that. But given the market they are writing for and the references to UAB and other "mid majors" I feel it is relevant. Not saying the writer intends that message, but when you are writing in our market and you have folks looking for justification of the UAB move to eliminate football, they will latch on to the claim that UAB did it for these purposes.
This article was written by Mike Herndon of the Mobile Press Register. His market is South Alabama and, to a lesser extent, Troy. the UAB reference was more or less an offhand comment.
Since the article was written for AL.com, it goes statewide to the web sites of papers in Huntsville and B'ham as well as the Mobile paper. COA is not a choice of paying or not. The choice is whether the student must somehow come up with the money alone or if the school will help out. The cost is still there regardless, and it must come from someone's pocket.
It's more accurate to say that the article was written for the Mobile Press Register and then distributed statewide by Al.com.
Not debating the actual mechanism of COA, just the point in the original post that the focus of this article should have been the UA BOT.