https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
(03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
(03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
(03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
(03-15-2015 08:35 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
Tarleton was more of a boogeyman in SC. He was more of a foil to Wade Hampton and Thomas Sumter than he was to the "Over the Mountain" folks. Ferguson was the Brit who was pursuing them and issued the now infamous proclamation that he would "Lay waste to their country with fire and sword" unless they laid down their arms and supported the crown. He is also now known for the supposed proclamation that nobody but the King would remove him from King's Mountain and he rests there to this day.
You cannot leave out Dan Morgan and the Battle of Cowpens from this thread. Morgan's tactics left Tarleton's Legion a shattered remnant.
(03-15-2015 08:35 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
I've taught this for nearly 30 years in the NC schools. If an 8th grade social studies teacher isn't covering this material then they aren't doing their job. It is a part of the curriculum. We cover the revolution and the founding documents with an emphasis on NCs role so the Southern campaign and the Tory (civil) War within the greater war is covered extensively. The State of Franklin is covered as a part of the growing pains NC and the US experienced in the early days of our nation. But Boone NC was never a part of Franklin or Tennessee. The present day counties of Northeast Tennessee composed the State of Franklin.
(03-16-2015 01:12 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:35 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
Tarleton was more of a boogeyman in SC. He was more of a foil to Wade Hampton and Thomas Sumter than he was to the "Over the Mountain" folks. Ferguson was the Brit who was pursuing them and issued the now infamous proclamation that he would "Lay waste to their country with fire and sword" unless they laid down their arms and supported the crown. He is also now known for the supposed proclamation that nobody but the King would remove him from King's Mountain and he rests there to this day.
Ferguson was actually a Scot, not a Brit. He would have been very upset at being called a Brit.
He was also a sharpshooter, possible the best in the British Army at the time, that had an opportunity to kill Washington but passed on taking the shot because he said the officer (he didn't know it was Washington at the time) presented himself so well on the field it just wouldn't be right.
"Tarleton's Quarter" was called out by some of the Overmountain Men at Kings Mt. when their fellow colonists tried to surrender. In other words, no quarter would be given. Tit for tat if you will. Those that were allowed to surrender mostly ran away and back home in the days tha followed. There was no good way to keep prisoners in the backcountry.
(03-17-2015 08:25 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:35 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 10:55 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5nBDPQe_0
http://guilfordbattlegroundcompany.org/a...enactment/
The annual re-enactment of the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.
Even though Cornwallis held the field, the British Army suffered tremendous loss including most of their Officer Corps. Cornwallis marched his depleted army to Wilmington from Greensboro to board ships that would take them to Yorktown. General Nathaniel Greene's southern campaign culminated in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse, which was the most decisive battle fought in the South during the Revolution.
(This post was last modified: Today 09:54 AM by XLance.)
Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
I've taught this for nearly 30 years in the NC schools. If an 8th grade social studies teacher isn't covering this material then they aren't doing their job. It is a part of the curriculum. We cover the revolution and the founding documents with an emphasis on NCs role so the Southern campaign and the Tory (civil) War within the greater war is covered extensively. The State of Franklin is covered as a part of the growing pains NC and the US experienced in the early days of our nation. But Boone NC was never a part of Franklin or Tennessee. The present day counties of Northeast Tennessee composed the State of Franklin.
I learned my NC history from Hugh Lefler.
(03-18-2015 03:38 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-17-2015 08:25 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:35 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 08:01 PM)dawgitall Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 11:32 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote: [ -> ]Most textbooks entirely omit that it was losses and battles in the South that led to Cornwallis' demise. Once the "Overmountain Boys" in western NC (now TN) were threated by Cornwallis ass hole - Lt. Gen. Ban Tarlton - they entered the fray. It was stupid of Tarlton to threaten the same Scotts-Irish they had run out of Scotland and Ireland three generations earlier.
You mean Patrick Ferguson, not Banister Tarlton don't you. Ferguson was sent by Cornwallis to raise a Tory force at 96 South Carolina and sent an ultimatum to the OverMountain men. Basically calling them cowards, and telling their women that they should join them in 96 where all the real men were. The mountaineers decided the take it to them and Ferguson stopped on King's Mountain. Some of the OMM didn't know what a white flag meant while others called out, "Tarlton's Quarter" when the Tories tried to surrender. It wasn't pretty.
You are correct about the messenger. I was wrong. However, without Tarlton's relative butchery prior to the threat to the OMM, I don't know that they act as they did. I once attended a lecture at ETSU where the topic was discussed years ago. The focus as I recall was on Tarlton, but it may be that popular culture has changed the general facts. Mel Gibson might be to blame for that. You hear little about this in NC schools, in fact I dare say that most NC kids have no idea that Tennessee was sold to the Feds to pay NC's Revolutionary War debt.
IIRC Boone, and Elizabethton are the only two towns to have been in three different states, NC, TN, and Franklin (a failed US State put down by NC).
I've taught this for nearly 30 years in the NC schools. If an 8th grade social studies teacher isn't covering this material then they aren't doing their job. It is a part of the curriculum. We cover the revolution and the founding documents with an emphasis on NCs role so the Southern campaign and the Tory (civil) War within the greater war is covered extensively. The State of Franklin is covered as a part of the growing pains NC and the US experienced in the early days of our nation. But Boone NC was never a part of Franklin or Tennessee. The present day counties of Northeast Tennessee composed the State of Franklin.
I learned my NC history from Hugh Lefler.
He was a great professor and while I didn't have the opportunity to attend one of his classes I've used one of his books as a reference often. Regardless, Boone, NC was never in "The State of Franklin" and all of these aspects of NC history are covered extensively in the public schools.
