It's obvious the CAA has been depleted to a 1 bid conference for at best the foreseeable future.
With that said, of the Schools that were in place when Brady started at JMU, here's their success (percentage of times each school made the CAA Semis) :
VCU 100.00% (4 of 4)
ODU 100.00% (4 of 4)
GMU 80.00% (4 of 5)
Northeastern 57.14% (4 of 7)
W&M 42.86% (3 of 7)
Hofsta 42.86% (3 of 7)
Delaware 28.57% (2 of 7)
Towson 28.57% (2 of 7)
JMU 14.29% (1 of 7)
UNCW 14.29% (1 of 7)
How much effect does this have on lack of attendance?
The acceptance of being tied for worst over 7 years in no way helps the future of JMU basketball.
It's all about the CAA tournament these days for the CAA. We're tied for worst among the 10 teams over Brady's era.
Bar is way too low.
Additionally Brady's best teams were his third 3 year and next his first year.
Obviously next season is a make or break year for Brady again. The question is what level of success would it take to give him a new contract? I disagree with idea that next season's success is purely measured by a three game tournament. I believe you have to take into consideration the regular season.
I say we need to win 20 regular season games, finish at or better than 12-6 again in the conference, and reach the CAA championship game. I think Brady will schedule a tougher OOC for next season now that he will have a squad made up of Juniors and Seniors. Also, it sounds like we will play UVa again, Richmond again, and have good reason to believe ODU and GMU will be back on our schedule.
I'm sure I am in the minority but if Brady can schedule our old rivalries, wins 20 regular season games, finish 12-6 or better most years in the conference, and occasionally make a deep run in the CAA tourny I am happy. The past two season we have been one and done in the CAA tourny so MB is now due for deep run in the post season. Next season if we struggle with out ooc games and finishes with less than 12 conference wins and end the regular season with 16-18 total wins I do not feel MB warrants a contract extension regardless if the team catches lighting in a bottle and wins the CAA tourny. I feel you need to look at the season as a whole and not simply evaluate the team's success based on one weekend.
I think you look at the coach's entire tenure for trends and balance that with an educated opinion on what the likelihood for success is in the future- not just next year. Brady has had 7 years and we're still debating if he should still be around. That's not good enough in my view. His overall record at JMU is just a few games over .500. As Dukester has pointed out, his teams' performances in the tournament have been poor overall. A few years back there were many who said our future was bright with Cooke, Bessick, etc. returning. We know how that worked out. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't think Brady is the guy to get us to the next level.
(03-15-2015 10:29 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously next season is a make or break year for Brady again. The question is what level of success would it take to give him a new contract? I disagree with idea that next season's success is purely measured by a three game tournament. I believe you have to take into consideration the regular season.
I say we need to win 20 regular season games, finish at or better than 12-6 again in the conference, and reach the CAA championship game. I think Brady will schedule a tougher OOC for next season now that he will have a squad made up of Juniors and Seniors. Also, it sounds like we will play UVa again, Richmond again, and have good reason to believe ODU and GMU will be back on our schedule.
I'm sure I am in the minority but if Brady can schedule our old rivalries, wins 20 regular season games, finish 12-6 or better most years in the conference, and occasionally make a deep run in the CAA tourny I am happy. The past two season we have been one and done in the CAA tourny so MB is now due for deep run in the post season. Next season if we struggle with out ooc games and finishes with less than 12 conference wins and end the regular season with 16-18 total wins I do not feel MB warrants a contract extension regardless if the team catches lighting in a bottle and wins the CAA tourny. I feel you need to look at the season as a whole and not simply evaluate the team's success based on one weekend.
I agree with you Dawgfan. If the team does well enough next year to merit a new contract for Brady in the eyes of JB I am sure it will be another short contract similar to the previous one. I too feel you have to look at the entire body of work when considering how many years we should write into a new contract with MB if next year is meets the administration's goals.
haven't been around lately, but I think this year was certainly a step in the right direction....Minus cooke, bessick and Nation to win 19 was a fine accomplishment from this staff. I hope you all realize that as frustrated you may be with brady and staff, there are many openings which he could choose to apply for. I think Penn would be a great fit for him with his philly backround. Dont wish too much for his failing, because until the facilities are updated he is our best option for next year and beyond.
(03-15-2015 10:29 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously next season is a make or break year for Brady again. The question is what level of success would it take to give him a new contract? I disagree with idea that next season's success is purely measured by a three game tournament. I believe you have to take into consideration the regular season.
I say we need to win 20 regular season games, finish at or better than 12-6 again in the conference, and reach the CAA championship game. I think Brady will schedule a tougher OOC for next season now that he will have a squad made up of Juniors and Seniors. Also, it sounds like we will play UVa again, Richmond again, and have good reason to believe ODU and GMU will be back on our schedule.
I'm sure I am in the minority but if Brady can schedule our old rivalries, wins 20 regular season games, finish 12-6 or better most years in the conference, and occasionally make a deep run in the CAA tourny I am happy. The past two season we have been one and done in the CAA tourny so MB is now due for deep run in the post season. Next season if we struggle with out ooc games and finishes with less than 12 conference wins and end the regular season with 16-18 total wins I do not feel MB warrants a contract extension regardless if the team catches lighting in a bottle and wins the CAA tourny. I feel you need to look at the season as a whole and not simply evaluate the team's success based on one weekend.
Agree
I'm not wishing for his failing. I'm just not convinced after 7 years he is able to build a consistent winner. It's also hard to say he's our best option when no one knows who may have an interest in the job or how some "unknown" coach may perform with such an opportunity. All great coaches got their start somewhere and new energy and enthusiasm may be one of the ingredients this program needs.
(03-15-2015 11:33 AM)nyduke Wrote: [ -> ]haven't been around lately, but I think this year was certainly a step in the right direction....Minus cooke, bessick and Nation to win 19 was a fine accomplishment from this staff. I hope you all realize that as frustrated you may be with brady and staff, there are many openings which he could choose to apply for. I think Penn would be a great fit for him with his philly backround. Dont wish too much for his failing, because until the facilities are updated he is our best option for next year and beyond.
(03-15-2015 10:05 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]It's obvious the CAA has been depleted to a 1 bid conference for at best the foreseeable future.
With that said, of the Schools that were in place when Brady started at JMU, here's their success (percentage of times each school made the CAA Semis) :
VCU 100.00% (4 of 4)
ODU 100.00% (4 of 4)
GMU 80.00% (4 of 5)
Northeastern 57.14% (4 of 7)
W&M 42.86% (3 of 7)
Hofsta 42.86% (3 of 7)
Delaware 28.57% (2 of 7)
Towson 28.57% (2 of 7)
JMU 14.29% (1 of 7)
UNCW 14.29% (1 of 7)
How much effect does this have on lack of attendance?
The acceptance of being tied for worst over 7 years in no way helps the future of JMU basketball.
It's all about the CAA tournament these days for the CAA. We're tied for worst among the 10 teams over Brady's era.
Bar is way too low.
Additionally Brady's best teams were his third 3 year and next his first year.
Dukester, I think this is a fair criticism. The last few CAA tournaments all you really need to do is win 1 game to get to the semi finals (with 10 teams, the year before 9 and the year before a few ineligible teams). I think this is a reflection on the regular season and seeding. Even this year with the tie for the conference title they were a 4 seed. I bet that the teams with the higher percentage of semi-final appearances did so in years where they were a top 3 seed. That is where JMU needs to be next year to at least get an easier first round game.
Brady's tournament record is bad. To take the next step, Brady has to win more tournament games. This year, we were not competitive in the one game we played.
(03-15-2015 07:15 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]Brady's tournament record is bad. To take the next step, Brady has to win more tournament games. This year, we were not competitive in the one game we played.
Brady's CAA record is bad at .460 (57-67). I am sure we can do better.
Both coaches who coached in the CAA finals this year had losing records at their schools. Both have been there longer than Brady.
I keep saying this...I look around the league and I don't see a coach that hands down has proven himself to be better than Brady. For those of you asking for change, history would say the next hire will be the same caliber as Brady was when he was hired. I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think JMU is going to hire a big name coach to replace Matt.
(03-15-2015 07:18 PM)JMU Wrote: [ -> ] (03-15-2015 07:15 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]Brady's tournament record is bad. To take the next step, Brady has to win more tournament games. This year, we were not competitive in the one game we played.
Brady's CAA record is bad at .460 (57-67). I am sure we can do better.
(03-15-2015 07:37 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]Both coaches who coached in the CAA finals this year had losing records at their schools. Both have been there longer than Brady.
I keep saying this...I look around the league and I don't see a coach that hands down has proven himself to be better than Brady. For those of you asking for change, history would say the next hire will be the same caliber as Brady was when he was hired. I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think JMU is going to hire a big name coach to replace Matt.
Why must we always compare against other losers? Compare against Smart, Jones, Bennett and other winners! We deserve to be winners, too. Too many are too willing to accept mediocrity. .460 isn't even mediocre.
BSBK:
We have watched JMU basketball for thirty years. Even a legendary hall of fame coach could not sustain his basketball program at JMU. We are not VCU. They are willing to spend so much more on basketball then we either can or are willing to do. To expect more is wishful thinking. JMU will hire another no name assistant and we will start all over with an unproven head coach.
I am being realistic. I look around our league and I see a bunch of average coaches. These days, a lot more get fired than move up to bigger programs. Grant was the last CAA coach to move up. Pechora went to Forham. Brownwell went to Wright St. before landing at Clemson. Who else? I think the rest were fired.
(03-15-2015 10:05 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]It's obvious the CAA has been depleted to a 1 bid conference for at best the foreseeable future.
With that said, of the Schools that were in place when Brady started at JMU, here's their success (percentage of times each school made the CAA Semis) :
VCU 100.00% (4 of 4)
ODU 100.00% (4 of 4)
GMU 80.00% (4 of 5)
Northeastern 57.14% (4 of 7)
W&M 42.86% (3 of 7)
Hofsta 42.86% (3 of 7)
Delaware 28.57% (2 of 7)
Towson 28.57% (2 of 7)
JMU 14.29% (1 of 7)
UNCW 14.29% (1 of 7)
How much effect does this have on lack of attendance?
The acceptance of being tied for worst over 7 years in no way helps the future of JMU basketball.
It's all about the CAA tournament these days for the CAA. We're tied for worst among the 10 teams over Brady's era.
Bar is way too low.
Additionally Brady's best teams were his third 3 year and next his first year.
What exactly do the semis have to do with anything? Finals appearances - eh, maybe. Semis? The only thing the semis get you are another 200 or so male fans in the seats in Baltimore that couldnt convince their wife to leave the family for entire weekend, but could squeeze out one day.
The important stat is being able to close. Second place gets you a set of steak knives. And third and fourth in the tournament are of no significance other than solidifying a place in the CBI or CIT.
Coen, Brady, Ross...have been able to close once. Shaver, as great a job as I think he does, would not satisfy the standards of Alec Baldwin in Glengarry GlenRoss. But when Charlie Woolum is your benchmark, I guess Shaver has been pretty darn good.
(03-15-2015 08:03 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]BSBK:
We have watched JMU basketball for thirty years. Even a legendary hall of fame coach could not sustain his basketball program at JMU. We are not VCU. They are willing to spend so much more on basketball then we either can or are willing to do. To expect more is wishful thinking. JMU will hire another no name assistant and we will start all over with an unproven head coach.
I am being realistic. I look around our league and I see a bunch of average coaches. These days, a lot more get fired than move up to bigger programs. Grant was the last CAA coach to move up. Pechora went to Forham. Brownwell went to Wright St. before landing at Clemson. Who else? I think the rest were fired.
In this case, the Devil we know is worth a change to the Devil we don't know. We have a pretty good read on any coach who has been at JMU for 7 years. Time for change. Take some risks. What have we got to lose? Not much. And, it has been 46 years for me, believe it or not. Started in 1969.
I even pre-date Dr. Carrier and Coach Ehlers. Even Longhorn!
I'm still not sure whether some of you guys are calling for Brady's head this year or just in general. I'll go on record as saying I think Brady has done a solid job and is one of the three best coached in JMU mens basketball history. No better no worse.
But seriously, we return everyone and should be at worst, picked to finish in the top 3 next season. You guys really want to can a coach in the last year of a deal, that has an improving team and returns everyone? You absolutely cannot hire the devil you dont know with as much as we have coming back. That is lunacy.
There is a grand total of one guy I would be comfortable replacing Brady with THIS year. The name may come as a surprise to some, maybe not others...Blaine Taylor.
Not as D1. That is 35 to be exact. ?
Take chances. Ha ha ha. This is JMU. When have they ever taken a chance and this President is more conservative than the last if that is even possible. I am far more fearful of the devil I don't know especially when we have had two good seasons out of three and a young team.
We let our better than .500 football coach go! If we won't accept average in football, why should we in basketball. It is always, wait til next year. Next year never comes. Attendance declines, interest wains. Time for something new and fresh.
(03-15-2015 08:23 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]We let our better than .500 football coach go! If we won't accept average in football, why should we in basketball. It is always, wait til next year. Next year never comes. Attendance declines, interest wains. Time for something new and fresh.
Yes, yes, yes!
(03-15-2015 08:23 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote: [ -> ]We let our better than .500 football coach go! If we won't accept average in football, why should we in basketball. It is always, wait til next year. Next year never comes. Attendance declines, interest wains. Time for something new and fresh.
No doubt. Completely agree.