Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
(03-07-2015 06:41 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ]Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
Can't disagree. Add the Boeheim situation to the mix and hmmm.
I'm reminded of when Boone was hired! He's a great because he wrote a book on coaching and he also made a video! The book was 2 pages page 1 motion offense page 2 man to man defense. The video was much of the same explaining them in about 30 different ways, had to make it 30 minutes long.
I'm glad you two have have finally made up and decided to be insufferable together. It's really adorable.
(03-07-2015 07:01 PM)EagleSam Wrote: [ -> ]I'm glad you two have have finally made up and decided to be insufferable together. It's really adorable.
Whom other are you talking about?
Dear superfan and Bob Wickersham,
I think it's time you guys gave it a rest. I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time, but the constant negativity is really becoming a bore. Think about what you constantly criticize. The coach is terrible, if not that, then attendance sucks, if not that, the strategy is wrong, if not that, everyone is apathetic, and it goes on and on.
(03-07-2015 08:29 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear superfan and Bob Wickersham,
I think it's time you guys gave it a rest. I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time, but the constant negativity is really becoming a bore. Think about what you constantly criticize. The coach is terrible, if not that, then attendance sucks, if not that, the strategy is wrong, if not that, everyone is apathetic, and it goes on and on.
+1000
(03-07-2015 08:29 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear superfan and Bob Wickersham,
I think it's time you guys gave it a rest. I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time, but the constant negativity is really becoming a bore. Think about what you constantly criticize. The coach is terrible, if not that, then attendance sucks, if not that, the strategy is wrong, if not that, everyone is apathetic, and it goes on and on.
Then you people need to start being realistic. But nearly everyone on here is painting a picture of every thing is great (we won a game we've turned it around) or wait till next year! Murphy has not turned out to the great recruiter most of you painted him to be nor is he a great or even a good coach. You people hype up the individual players but down play or you even ignore the team play!
Dear superfan,
I am very realistic about Eastern's total athletic program. You need to read more carefully. My statement was: "I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time".
Why can't people celebrate a victory? It's better than a loss. What makes you the expert on Murphy's abilities? Because he hasn't won as many games as you want him to, or maybe hasn't recruited the player you think he should? People here constantly talk about player's assists. Isn't that teamwork? What's wrong with hyping a player that scores 31 points in a game? I don't know what you expect out of this team, and only complain about the things I just addressed. Like I said on the earlier post, lighten up.
(03-07-2015 08:32 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2015 08:29 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear superfan and Bob Wickersham,
I think it's time you guys gave it a rest. I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time, but the constant negativity is really becoming a bore. Think about what you constantly criticize. The coach is terrible, if not that, then attendance sucks, if not that, the strategy is wrong, if not that, everyone is apathetic, and it goes on and on.
+1000
- infinity.
(03-07-2015 09:06 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear superfan,
I am very realistic about Eastern's total athletic program. You need to read more carefully. My statement was: "I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time".
Why can't people celebrate a victory? It's better than a loss. What makes you the expert on Murphy's abilities? Because he hasn't won as many games as you want him to, or maybe hasn't recruited the player you think he should? People here constantly talk about player's assists. Isn't that teamwork? What's wrong with hyping a player that scores 31 points in a game? I don't know what you expect out of this team, and only complain about the things I just addressed. Like I said on the earlier post, lighten up.
And if you read my posts more carefully you understand that its not the coaching or just players but YOU PEOPLE overly hype them. It was the people on here claiming what a great recruiter he was i haven't seen it examples 8 seniors last year! And 9 transfer on the team this year that is pour recruiting and you people wouldn't or refuse to admit it and next year looks just as bad. And ward himself admits that he much rather make dunks and layups than shoot 2 and 3 which win games. We are one of the worst teams in the whole ncaa-basketball when comes to assts and its has nothing to do with missed shots! And more than a few people on here have said murphy cant and doesnt coach offense. I want us to win the mac because we are and because the mac is good. I want us to be respected as a good basketball playing team, we play good teams and we beat good teams!
(03-07-2015 09:06 PM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear superfan,
I am very realistic about Eastern's total athletic program. You need to read more carefully. My statement was: "I'll be the first to admit that the talk here does not have to be a bed of roses all the time".
Why can't people celebrate a victory? It's better than a loss. What makes you the expert on Murphy's abilities? Because he hasn't won as many games as you want him to, or maybe hasn't recruited the player you think he should? People here constantly talk about player's assists. Isn't that teamwork? What's wrong with hyping a player that scores 31 points in a game? I don't know what you expect out of this team, and only complain about the things I just addressed. Like I said on the earlier post, lighten up.
Ken, we live in a competitive world. I have to compete with my peers or else I am out of a job. Thankfully, I am damn good at what I do. What is wrong with showing how EMU's attendance compares to it's MAC peers? Or how Coach Murphy compares with other MAC coaches? We need a winning culture here, we need to demand excellence.
Dear Bob,
Your last sentence says it all, and I totally agree with it. Until that happens there will be no improvement in attendance, and that's why it doesn't make sense to complain about it. First things first.
As far as Coach Murphy is concerned, do you read any of the other school blogs? Most of them complain about their coaches as well. Whether they just complain about a particular game, or the season as a whole, there are not many happy campers out there in MACville, and they have the same expectations as we from Eastern.
(03-08-2015 08:18 AM)Ken Barna Wrote: [ -> ]Dear Bob,
Your last sentence says it all, and I totally agree with it. Until that happens there will be no improvement in attendance, and that's why it doesn't make sense to complain about it. First things first.
As far as Coach Murphy is concerned, do you read any of the other school blogs? Most of them complain about their coaches as well. Whether they just complain about a particular game, or the season as a whole, there are not many happy campers out there in MACville, and they have the same expectations as we from Eastern.
Okay Ken here's where I disagree a little bit with regards to attendance. Losing will keep the locals away BUT losing should never keep the student body away from games. They are only on campus 4-5 years. They haven't lived through the losing seasons. What's happening at EMU--and nowhere else, is that the students are not showing up for games for reasons unknown. Non-students and alumni are not attending due to years of losing. That is a lethal combination. When I was in college, our teams were winners, but me and my friends would have packed Bowen and Rynearson regardless because we liked sports and had pride in our university.
(03-07-2015 06:41 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ]Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
We're at the doorsteps of back-to-back 20 win seasons.
We made th conference semi-final last year.
Ray Lee, a Murphy recruit out of high school, was the third leading scorer in the MAC this year.
Tim Bond came on strong at the end of the year after missing a good chunk of the season due to injury (a high school recruit).
Possibly the best PG recruit in the state is committed to EMU.
I guess I have to ask, what would you like to see to be impressed Super? I know that things might not be where you want to be, but in just wins and losses we're way ahead of where we we've been at any other point in the 21st century.
My thoughts on Murphy have not changed and I will prequalify my sentiments first. EMU basketball should be a top three program in this state, period. Why? We have the 3rd best college arena (WMU, CMU not even close) and we are adjacent to some of the best recruiting grounds in the country. So why is EMU not performing as a consistent 3rd best program in the state ( 3rd only to UofM and MSU because of their budget and marketing) because of sustained bad coaching hires. At any level of college, you are on your way up or down. Barnes could not recruit any kids to play a supporting role with Boykins and Dial either as juniors or seniors. We only needed a couple nice role players to move this program to a top 25 but it never happened. Then comes a big hiring mistake with Jim Boone. He also could not recruit D1 athletes and felt his system would win. Boone did not know this area and more importantly, the area did not know him. In my mind, our program hit rock bottom with Boone. Then we hire Ramsey who could recruit initially but also demonstrated his knowledge of the game was mediocre which led to average seasons. Then here comes Murphy, he can recruit, but runs a non structured offense with absolutely no low post scoring and a highly predictable defense easily defeated by a decent coach (just get the ball at the free throw line in paint and then pass to cutters at baseline which is what WMU did). Murphy has won a maximum of 9 or 10 conference games and continues to demonstrate he is out coached by not making adjustments and running the same system even if he has advantages with his personnel. After watching all the teams in the MAC, EMU has more talent on our roster top to bottom over any team in the conference. We do not win consistently because of Murphys system. I give Murphy credit for bringing in legitimate D1 players; however, if transfers are not going to play much then I would much rather have a freshmen recruit who could possibly develop into having a very nice 4 year career over 2 years. Since Murphy has been here four years and has demonstrated he is slightly better than average, I believe the better highschool players and transfers will stop coming. So when you play a system (2-3 zone) that is vulnerable to inside outside game, and proven you can't devise a consistently productive offense, the players will stop believing in Murphys system and go elsewhere. When this happens, we go from mediocre to bad which I believe will be the position we end up next season in year 5.
So why did Ben Braun win in gloomy Bowen Fieldhouse :1) First and foremost he won. He won the MAC championship his second season. In fact the MAC championship demonstrated that his system works. He won a MAC championship every 3-4 years. 2) He developed Grant Long into an NBA player and took advantage of his low post game with exciting outside shooting Brad Soucie. I talked to Grant after his sophomore season and he told me the new coaching staff (Braun) had big plans for him. 3) Braun new all of the Lansing, Detroit, Flint, Ypsilanti, and Saginaw highschool coaches and had a long and established relationship from his days coaching Siena Heights into an NAIA national power in Adrian where I got to watch his EXCITING brand of basketball.
When I contrast Murphy with Braun, Murphy has not won the big prize conference championship. This will lead to lesser talented players coming to EMU. Murphy runs predictable defense and not very exciting half court offense, but Braun took advantage of certain positions and mixed up defenses and offenses based upon opponent. Braun had a bigger fan base playing in worse arena because his teams won, he had exciting teams, and he knew the game.
Murphy would serve himself well by letting this team fast break like against Toledo and stay out of half court offensive set since he can not devise open looks for his players. On defense, run man to man. There is no team in this conference that have the athletes he has. This is to his credit. Like all of the bad coaching hires (Barnes, Boone, Ramsey) will not have successful post D1 coaching careers because not one of them have all of the factors it takes to be a successful head coach. This is proof EMU hired the wrong coaches to lead our program. Murphy will also fit into the wrong guy leading this program because he will never get another D1 head coaching job for all of the reasons I listed.
However, Murphy is better than Barnes, Boone, and Ramsey, for whatever that is worth
(03-08-2015 09:49 AM)KPJ Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2015 06:41 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ]Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
We're at the doorsteps of back-to-back 20 win seasons.
We made th conference semi-final last year.
Ray Lee, a Murphy recruit out of high school, was the third leading scorer in the MAC this year.
Tim Bond came on strong at the end of the year after missing a good chunk of the season due to injury (a high school recruit).
Possibly the best PG recruit in the state is committed to EMU.
I guess I have to ask, what would you like to see to be impressed Super? I know that things might not be where you want to be, but in just wins and losses we're way ahead of where we we've been at any other point in the 21st century.
But you guys were right at the beginning of the season, Murphy had the horses to win the MAC and go on this year as amazing as that seems to me now. The fact is he didn't win the regular season and we're a long way where we should have been now in the tournament. And all 20 win seasons are not equal, I'll take last year's where the schedule was much tougher. A losing conference record isn't good. Oh the other hand if they catch fire like they did against Toledo we still pull out this season. I totally agree 110% that Murphy is better than Boone, Ramsey. Another point on recruiting check to see how Murphy does head to head with other mid major schools for the same player. Too early to say what our 2015 class will look like but we are off to a good start with Stone who Steve Bell says is the best point guard in the state.
It also true that this season very few MAC fans are exactly happy with their coaches, lots of griping about not meeting expectations.
(03-08-2015 09:49 AM)KPJ Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2015 06:41 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ]Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
We're at the doorsteps of back-to-back 20 win seasons.
We made th conference semi-final last year.
Ray Lee, a Murphy recruit out of high school, was the third leading scorer in the MAC this year.
Tim Bond came on strong at the end of the year after missing a good chunk of the season due to injury (a high school recruit).
Possibly the best PG recruit in the state is committed to EMU.
I guess I have to ask, what would you like to see to be impressed Super? I know that things might not be where you want to be, but in just wins and losses we're way ahead of where we we've been at any other point in the 21st century.
Weak schedule weak wins. if you only go win lose record it looks great! If you lokk who those wins loses are against it's pathetic!
(03-08-2015 01:24 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2015 09:49 AM)KPJ Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2015 06:41 PM)emussuperfan Wrote: [ -> ]Okay people whom claimto be all knowing! What ever happened to Murphy the great recruiter? So far I'm greatly unimpressed! JACOs, transfers and players who are just here because they have eligibility left.
We're at the doorsteps of back-to-back 20 win seasons.
We made th conference semi-final last year.
Ray Lee, a Murphy recruit out of high school, was the third leading scorer in the MAC this year.
Tim Bond came on strong at the end of the year after missing a good chunk of the season due to injury (a high school recruit).
Possibly the best PG recruit in the state is committed to EMU.
I guess I have to ask, what would you like to see to be impressed Super? I know that things might not be where you want to be, but in just wins and losses we're way ahead of where we we've been at any other point in the 21st century.
Weak schedule weak wins. if you only go win lose record it looks great! If you lokk who those wins loses are against it's pathetic!
You're not answering the question though.
What is it that you want to see? What would it take to impress you?