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This is something many of us have known, but it is refreshing that they are admitting it now.

Quote:At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.
"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”
The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.

The giveaway, of course, has always been that the proposed “solutions” to climate change without fail are some form of taxation or redistribution of wealth.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials...talism.htm

One of the leftists will be along shortly to explain what she really meant.

What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

The second paragraph?

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Oh I dunno, maybe this part:

Quote:"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

You are schitting us?...right?

(02-13-2015 11:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Oh I dunno, maybe this part:

Quote:"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, but economic development models aren't the same as economic systems. The former is a predictor of economic development, the latter defines the way in which economies trade goods and services.

EDIT: I'm not just saying this as a response, google it yourself. I don't find a single entry where that term is used in the way you're describing it here, and even economic model isn't used that way.

(02-13-2015 11:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Oh I dunno, maybe this part:

Quote:"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, but economic development models aren't the same as economic systems. The former is a predictor of economic development, the latter defines the way in which economies trade goods and services.

EDIT: I'm not just saying this as a response, google it yourself. I don't find a single entry where that term is used in the way you're describing it here, and even economic model isn't used that way.

Its the UN. It's not a stretch to read between the lines and see the BS that this body has in mind for the world. IMO...It is more dangerous to the prosperity and safety of Americans than ANY terrorist organization.

(02-13-2015 11:39 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Oh I dunno, maybe this part:

Quote:"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, but economic development models aren't the same as economic systems. The former is a predictor of economic development, the latter defines the way in which economies trade goods and services.

EDIT: I'm not just saying this as a response, google it yourself. I don't find a single entry where that term is used in the way you're describing it here, and even economic model isn't used that way.

Its the UN. It's not a stretch to read between the lines and see the BS that this body has in mind for the world. IMO...It is more dangerous to the prosperity and safety of Americans than ANY terrorist organization.

But that's not what the term means, and it's meaning with the context it's used in makes complete sense. How is it not a stretch to assume it means something very different than the words she actually used? Just look up the term yourself, it's not a code for anything, there are masters theses on this topic and it's not about economic systems. You're usually one of the more rational ones on here, don't be the guy who literally misreads something because he's already convinced he knows the answer.

(02-13-2015 11:39 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Oh I dunno, maybe this part:

Quote:"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.
Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, but economic development models aren't the same as economic systems. The former is a predictor of economic development, the latter defines the way in which economies trade goods and services.

EDIT: I'm not just saying this as a response, google it yourself. I don't find a single entry where that term is used in the way you're describing it here, and even economic model isn't used that way.

Its the UN. It's not a stretch to read between the lines and see the BS that this body has in mind for the world. IMO...It is more dangerous to the prosperity and safety of Americans than ANY terrorist organization.

You are wasting your time complaining about the UN to a leftist. They love the fact that for the better part of 40 years the UN has morphed from a body designed to prevent a third world war to one that serves the greater socialist good worldwide.

So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

(02-13-2015 11:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

We are talking about a "Diplomat". Is is all about words meaning things.

(02-13-2015 11:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

We are talking about a "Diplomat". Is is all about words meaning things.

Yes, and her words have a different meaning than what you are claiming. Which is the point. Come on Fo shizzle, if the UN is as bad as you think, then you don't need to make up false claims to argue against it.

(02-13-2015 11:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

We are talking about a "Diplomat". Is is all about words meaning things.

Yes, and her words have a different meaning than what you are claiming. Which is the point. Come on Fo shizzle, if the UN is as bad as you think, then you don't need to make up false claims to argue against it.

The track record of the UN in regard to putting the US at the bottom of its "we give a schit" list is undeniable. Why should I give this woman the benefit of the doubt?

(02-14-2015 12:06 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

We are talking about a "Diplomat". Is is all about words meaning things.

Yes, and her words have a different meaning than what you are claiming. Which is the point. Come on Fo shizzle, if the UN is as bad as you think, then you don't need to make up false claims to argue against it.

The track record of the UN in regard to putting the US at the bottom of its "we give a schit" list is undeniable. Why should I give this woman the benefit of the doubt?

Because you're an honest person who only blames people for their actual faults, instead of fabricating faults to blame them for? This isn't about a benefit of the doubt, this is about not ignoring the meaning of the words being used.

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Own your own company and employ people, try it.

(02-14-2015 12:09 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Own your own company and employ people, try it.

What does this have to do with pointing out the fact that the OP does not include the statement the title of the thread said it does? Google the term 'economic development model' yourself, find me an article that shows it used interchangeably with 'economic system'. I didn't.

Is there not a single conservative on this messageboard who is interested in being an honest person?

(02-14-2015 12:08 AM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2015 12:06 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 11:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]So we're just at the point where words mean nothing and you can make up peoples statements for them? Who here has any shred of personal integrity?

We are talking about a "Diplomat". Is is all about words meaning things.

Yes, and her words have a different meaning than what you are claiming. Which is the point. Come on Fo shizzle, if the UN is as bad as you think, then you don't need to make up false claims to argue against it.

The track record of the UN in regard to putting the US at the bottom of its "we give a schit" list is undeniable. Why should I give this woman the benefit of the doubt?

Because you're an honest person who only blames people for their actual faults, instead of fabricating faults to blame them for? This isn't about a benefit of the doubt, this is about not ignoring the meaning of the words being used.

We will have to agree to disagree about her meaning here.

(02-14-2015 12:13 AM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2015 12:09 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2015 10:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote: [ -> ]What portion are you referring to as her admitting the goal is to end capitalism?

Own your own company and employ people, try it.

What does this have to do with pointing out the fact that the OP does not include the statement the title of the thread said it does? Google the term 'economic development model' yourself, find me an article that shows it used interchangeably with 'economic system'. I didn't.

Is there not a single conservative on this messageboard who is interested in being an honest person?

I "honestly" don't believe a word she says. You are welcome to agree with her.

Whether or not you believe her is irrelevant to the point I've made, and you know it. I guess I'm asking too much of everyone here.