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Wow. This story of corruption in the UA BoT goes deeper nearly every day. More than enough dirt for multiple episodes of 20/20.
THIS is the kind of stuff faculty senate needs to see too. Likely most have no idea
Doesn't Drummond family (coal) have (or had) a lot of influence on (or with) the BOT over the years and the Tuscaloosa campus real estate?
Maybe we need to add to the #freeUAB mantra a #freeBirmingham as well.

Seems not just with football but with this Clean Air sabotage that they care only about the bottom dollar and nothing about the PEOPLE of Birmingham. I'd say the 1.2 million people in metro Birmingham makes a formidable opponent to the BOT.
(01-14-2015 03:29 PM)Blazer85 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe we need to add to the #freeUAB mantra a #freeBirmingham as well.

Seems not just with football but with this Clean Air sabotage that they care only about the bottom dollar and nothing about the PEOPLE of Birmingham. I'd say the 1.2 million people in metro Birmingham makes a formidable opponent to the BOT.

Be careful remember what happened to Dunn when he questioned the rates of return for Alabama Power on the PSC. He was labeled a job killing tree hugging Obama loving Hippie. Sad thing is no one hears clean air (which is really nice by the way) but instead hear job killing big government regulations.
(01-14-2015 03:26 PM)blzrclub80 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't Drummond family (coal) have (or had) a lot of influence on (or with) the BOT over the years and the Tuscaloosa campus real estate?

Yes
(01-14-2015 03:36 PM)uabblazer2012 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-14-2015 03:26 PM)blzrclub80 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't Drummond family (coal) have (or had) a lot of influence on (or with) the BOT over the years and the Tuscaloosa campus real estate?

Yes

Don't coal-fired power plants, furnaces and bowlers cause a lot of pollution? G.A.S.P.!!! The BOT is in the pollution business too! Such a list of dubious accomplishments and qualities they have!
The BOT and Drummond are also in the middle of the coal plant planned for the Warrior River(?) and being disputed in federal court due to affect on Birmingham area drinking water. The argument is the same there, "They're killing our jobs", rather than concern of possible poisoning of the drinking water of nearly a million people...
(01-14-2015 03:26 PM)blzrclub80 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't Drummond family (coal) have (or had) a lot of influence on (or with) the BOT over the years and the Tuscaloosa campus real estate?

UA BOT - Trustee Emeritus
(01-14-2015 04:31 PM)BlazerHam Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-14-2015 03:26 PM)blzrclub80 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't Drummond family (coal) have (or had) a lot of influence on (or with) the BOT over the years and the Tuscaloosa campus real estate?

UA BOT - Trustee Emeritus

That's where I saw the name - on the Trustee Emeritus list!
Dr. Propst's speech to the NAS board was a highlight. It especially helped that it had nothing to do with football, but rather with academic integrity and Watts quid pro quo with the BoT.

But nobody ever accused Watts of anything, right?
(01-14-2015 03:54 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]The BOT and Drummond are also in the middle of the coal plant planned for the Warrior River(?) and being disputed in federal court due to affect on Birmingham area drinking water. The argument is the same there, "They're killing our jobs", rather than concern of possible poisoning of the drinking water of nearly a million people...

And, of course, their "alleged" shennigans in South America:

Alabama Coal Billionaire Battles Murder Suits as Prices Ebb
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-16...s-ebb.html

Drummond Coal killings South America
http://apr.org/post/appeals-court-hears-...n-slayings

Colombia to charge employees of US coal company Drummond
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-25988645

Colombia Suspends Drummond’s Coal Ship-Loading License
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-06...-says.html

Environmental licensing agency ANLA imposed the “preventive measure” against Drummond’s Colombian unit after the Jan. 13 spill, director Luz Helena Sarmiento said. Drummond barge workers dumped about 870 metric tons into the water to avoid sinking in heavy seas, according to the agency’s ruling.
(01-14-2015 04:43 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]Dr. Propst's speech to the NAS board was a highlight. It especially helped that it had nothing to do with football, but rather with academic integrity and Watts quid pro quo with the BoT.

But nobody ever accused Watts of anything, right?

If Watts would sabotage his own work what does that say about what he would do to UAB? He's follows orders no matter what. Its his way of doing things....
That will get you Chairman elect of the Birmingham Business Alliance.
They don't call it an "alliance" for nothing!
(01-14-2015 03:23 PM)biglizard Wrote: [ -> ]THIS is the kind of stuff faculty senate needs to see too. Likely most have no idea

I sent it to Faculty Senate and asked them if they thought Ray Watts was a man of integrity.

I can't imagine anyone purposely tearing down what evidently took him a lot of time an effort to build, all in pursuit of money and power. He evidently never heard the lesson, "To thine self be true and never wilt thou be false to any other man".

I can now believe without any reservations that Watts did not do this on his own - it was a condition of employment that came with the job like he had to do away with his clean air research program. That also explains why a supposedly smart man was so stupid about the way he did it - if he had tried to do it the right way, he knew he wouldn't be successful and he had to get it done at all costs.

What he and his BOT handlers didn't expect was the way we chose to fight and are still fighting. Or, more likely, the BOT boys knew, but didn't care and simply left Watts out to dry.
(01-14-2015 07:38 PM)CajunBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]What he and his BOT handlers didn't expect was the way we chose to fight and are still fighting. Or, more likely, the BOT boys knew, but didn't care and simply left Watts out to dry.

They're old men, both in terms of years and thought. They really don't understand the rapidfire nature of the Internet's Third Age. In the 1980's we'd have had to organize with posters stuck on walls and phone trees (remember those?). They've just discovered that you can see nekkid people for free on the computer.
I held my SACS forms until today. The GASP article was included.
Love it

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