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For those of you that were part of our conversation about the possibility of Peyton Manning somewhat following in the footsteps of Harbaugh, you will know where this thread is coming form. For the rest of you?

It was my belief earlier, that I brought up, that Manning may very well be the next big announcement when it comes to College Football Coaching. Some folks agreed with me that this year was looking to be Manning's last, while others disagreed. I would in fact say more folks didn't think it would be his last year this year.

So now I am bringing it up against after the post season pretty much went exactly as I thought and stated that it would for Peyton. They are talking about some leg injury that he has been playing with. I thought it looked like his back but a leg injury can affect throwing just as much due to not being able to plant. This is becoming a regular thing. Manning starts a year in good shape but his body no longer allows for the usual bumps and dings to be overcome. His body doesn't heal like it used to and he isn't mobile so he takes more shots than most.

I think we have seen the last of Manning as a quarterback BUT we definitely havnt seen the last of Manning. I don't include "Network Talking Head" in that statement. He will definitely do that but he is far too competitive of a person to just sit around talking about others playing the game. One year of talking and he is probably then looking for a coaching job.

Where would you place him? Some folks think that he immediately finds a job on some pro team, not as a head coach of course but as some kind of secondary role.

I don't think that happens. He isn't going to want to be coaching for and against players that he just played with and against but a year ago. His competitive juices wouldn't handle that. No, he needs to coach at the College level and he has been seen more and more at the Tennessee games.

For me, I think Tennessee would be complete idiots to let him sign on anywhere else. If I was Tennessee I would sign him on as a QB Coach that is also either an Assistant Offensive Coordinator position or Co-Offensive Coordinator position. A couple years of that and despite Butch Jones's impressive recruiting thus far, if you are Tennessee you do whatever it takes to keep Manning on campus. I think we are going to see with Harbaugh why it would be such a big deal.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/sto...nth-season

Quote:"My mindset right now is just disappointment after [Sunday's] game," Manning said after the defeat. "I'm disappointed. I kind of need to process this game. We'll meet [Monday]. I'm disappointed I need to process this game."

Asked if he could definitely say he was planning to return to the Broncos next season, Manning said, after a short pause: "Uh, yeah, I guess I just can't give that simple answer. I'm processing it. I can't say that. I could not say that."
He'll most likely not be a head coach ever and Tennessee would be stupid to hire a person with no coaching experience.
(01-12-2015 07:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]For those of you that were part of our conversation about the possibility of Peyton Manning somewhat following in the footsteps of Harbaugh, you will know where this thread is coming form. For the rest of you?

It was my belief earlier, that I brought up, that Manning may very well be the next big announcement when it comes to College Football Coaching. Some folks agreed with me that this year was looking to be Manning's last, while others disagreed. I would in fact say more folks didn't think it would be his last year this year.

So now I am bringing it up against after the post season pretty much went exactly as I thought and stated that it would for Peyton. They are talking about some leg injury that he has been playing with. I thought it looked like his back but a leg injury can affect throwing just as much due to not being able to plant. This is becoming a regular thing. Manning starts a year in good shape but his body no longer allows for the usual bumps and dings to be overcome. His body doesn't heal like it used to and he isn't mobile so he takes more shots than most.

I think we have seen the last of Manning as a quarterback BUT we definitely havnt seen the last of Manning. I don't include "Network Talking Head" in that statement. He will definitely do that but he is far too competitive of a person to just sit around talking about others playing the game. One year of talking and he is probably then looking for a coaching job.

Where would you place him? Some folks think that he immediately finds a job on some pro team, not as a head coach of course but as some kind of secondary role.

I don't think that happens. He isn't going to want to be coaching for and against players that he just played with and against but a year ago. His competitive juices wouldn't handle that. No, he needs to coach at the College level and he has been seen more and more at the Tennessee games.

For me, I think Tennessee would be complete idiots to let him sign on anywhere else. If I was Tennessee I would sign him on as a QB Coach that is also either an Assistant Offensive Coordinator position or Co-Offensive Coordinator position. A couple years of that and despite Butch Jones's impressive recruiting thus far, if you are Tennessee you do whatever it takes to keep Manning on campus. I think we are going to see with Harbaugh why it would be such a big deal.

You and I go back and forth on this, so I'll respond to this thread as I have in some of our offline conversations. Peyton should retire, in fact he should have hung it up last year. That being said, you can't make the argument that Manning is competitive yet has enough self-awareness to acknowledge his deficiencies. That seems somewhat contradictory.

As for his post retirement life, I think he should spend a year off and dedicated himself fully to his passing academy. While the Vols would love to have him on staff in some capacity, there is difficulty in blending him in with the current staff. And doing it at any price is sure to create a great deal of friction.
(01-12-2015 08:01 PM)CoogNellie Wrote: [ -> ]He'll most likely not be a head coach ever and Tennessee would be stupid to hire a person with no coaching experience.

No coaching experience?

http://manningpassingacademy.com/

I have listed in other threads plenty of times the different statements that have been made about him. He is an exceptional leader and is extremely charismatic. He has the perfect traits to be an extremely successful coach. He WILL get offers. Guess what happens for the school that has Peyton Manning showing up to recruit the top rated 5* quarterback recruit in the nation? If Peyton shows up personally at that house, he is taking home that Commit with him.

Peyton is already known for pretty much running his own offenses and has done that for quite a few seasons. He basically already has had Offensive Coordinator training and experience in the NFL.

My timeline for him is about him getting that final bit of experience, actually being there. If you are Tennessee, you have him right now but if you let him go somewhere else first and he gets in a couple seasons there then all of a sudden Tennessee will lose some allure. Right now Tennessee can get him without much competition. That wont always be the case.

Give him a year to do the Commentator duty and he will be ready to be active again.


Basically guy, you don't have a clue what you are talking about with your imbecilic one liner post.
(01-12-2015 08:12 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 07:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]For those of you that were part of our conversation about the possibility of Peyton Manning somewhat following in the footsteps of Harbaugh, you will know where this thread is coming form. For the rest of you?

It was my belief earlier, that I brought up, that Manning may very well be the next big announcement when it comes to College Football Coaching. Some folks agreed with me that this year was looking to be Manning's last, while others disagreed. I would in fact say more folks didn't think it would be his last year this year.

So now I am bringing it up against after the post season pretty much went exactly as I thought and stated that it would for Peyton. They are talking about some leg injury that he has been playing with. I thought it looked like his back but a leg injury can affect throwing just as much due to not being able to plant. This is becoming a regular thing. Manning starts a year in good shape but his body no longer allows for the usual bumps and dings to be overcome. His body doesn't heal like it used to and he isn't mobile so he takes more shots than most.

I think we have seen the last of Manning as a quarterback BUT we definitely havnt seen the last of Manning. I don't include "Network Talking Head" in that statement. He will definitely do that but he is far too competitive of a person to just sit around talking about others playing the game. One year of talking and he is probably then looking for a coaching job.

Where would you place him? Some folks think that he immediately finds a job on some pro team, not as a head coach of course but as some kind of secondary role.

I don't think that happens. He isn't going to want to be coaching for and against players that he just played with and against but a year ago. His competitive juices wouldn't handle that. No, he needs to coach at the College level and he has been seen more and more at the Tennessee games.

For me, I think Tennessee would be complete idiots to let him sign on anywhere else. If I was Tennessee I would sign him on as a QB Coach that is also either an Assistant Offensive Coordinator position or Co-Offensive Coordinator position. A couple years of that and despite Butch Jones's impressive recruiting thus far, if you are Tennessee you do whatever it takes to keep Manning on campus. I think we are going to see with Harbaugh why it would be such a big deal.

You and I go back and forth on this, so I'll respond to this thread as I have in some of our offline conversations. Peyton should retire, in fact he should have hung it up last year. That being said, you can't make the argument that Manning is competitive yet has enough self-awareness to acknowledge his deficiencies. That seems somewhat contradictory.

As for his post retirement life, I think he should spend a year off and dedicated himself fully to his passing academy. While the Vols would love to have him on staff in some capacity, there is difficulty in blending him in with the current staff. And doing it at any price is sure to create a great deal of friction.

Yes, our discussions have been good. We agree in most things. We really only disagree in terms of timeline. I don't think Peyton would find it impossible to do his Passing Camp AND Commentating at the same time. So our individual timelines of his first year out actually correspond with each other.

In terms of Manning knowing his time is up? Have you seen his comments after the loss? He knows. The problem isn't him knowing, the problem is him finally weighing the risk more heavily than he weighs the reward. One more year of not winning a playoff game while being in the playoffs, that lets out a lot of the steam that kept the Manning steam engine running.

In terms of the Vols, I actually don't think they should act as heavily for him as Tennessee should. His loyalty is currently to Tennessee. I think he would stick around despite all the opportunities he would be offered to him for his second year as a coach. If Tennessee gets him right away, I think he sticks around for that 3-4 year tenure that would be required before they would hand him the reins as head coach.

As the Vols, you don't have that same bond with Manning so the risk of him leaving right away after that first year is greater. The risk isn't worth the reward. If the Vols would want him that badly, best option to be one of those schools in the hunt after his first year.
(01-12-2015 08:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]No coaching experience?

That's right. No coaching experience. If Peyton wants he can probably get a QB coach position at a smaller school, but sorry Tennessee isn't going to hire him to be the head man or OC with no experience. Sorry to disappoint you, guy.
(01-12-2015 10:48 PM)CoogNellie Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 08:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]No coaching experience?

That's right. No coaching experience. If Peyton wants he can probably get a QB coach position at a smaller school, but sorry Tennessee isn't going to hire him to be the head man or OC with no experience. Sorry to disappoint you, guy.

Once again, your reading comprehension is terrible. You aren't even refuting what I said. You are making up your own strawman.

I said they would hire him as a Quarterbacks Coach because....that is what he f'n does at his camps and he is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game as a pure throwing quarterback.

Sorry to disappoint you but you aren't that good of a troll and at this point it is obvious that you would be better off claiming to be trolling right now rather than trying to claim you know what you are talking about.

Next.
I can definitely picture Manning on the Tennessee sidelines in some capacity in the near future, but has he ever shown an interest in going back to campus as a coach?
(01-12-2015 11:05 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 10:48 PM)CoogNellie Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 08:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]No coaching experience?

That's right. No coaching experience. If Peyton wants he can probably get a QB coach position at a smaller school, but sorry Tennessee isn't going to hire him to be the head man or OC with no experience. Sorry to disappoint you, guy.

Once again, your reading comprehension is terrible. You aren't even refuting what I said. You are making up your own strawman.

I said they would hire him as a Quarterbacks Coach because....that is what he f'n does at his camps and he is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game as a pure throwing quarterback.

Sorry to disappoint you but you aren't that good of a troll and at this point it is obvious that you would be better off claiming to be trolling right now rather than trying to claim you know what you are talking about.

Next.

I'm sorry I can't take a man seriously who believes that holding a QB camp counts as coaching experience at the collegiate level. Your debate skills remind me of the SEC West. Overrated and convinced of your own greatness.

Game. Set. Match.
If Peyton is going to coach then he shouldn't bother with trying to be a QB coach. He doesn't need the money or the need to help someone else out. What he should do is look for a small divisions II or FCS program and assemble a staff.
(01-12-2015 11:47 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: [ -> ]If Peyton is going to coach then he shouldn't bother with trying to be a QB coach. He doesn't need the money or the need to help someone else out. What he should do is look for a small divisions II or FCS program and assemble a staff.

I think this would be the most likely path. If he can prove himself to be the head man at a smaller program then a bigger school would snatch him up after a few years.

I'm not convinced Peyton wants to coach though. It would be exciting if he does.
(01-12-2015 11:43 PM)CoogNellie Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 11:05 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 10:48 PM)CoogNellie Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 08:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]No coaching experience?

That's right. No coaching experience. If Peyton wants he can probably get a QB coach position at a smaller school, but sorry Tennessee isn't going to hire him to be the head man or OC with no experience. Sorry to disappoint you, guy.

Once again, your reading comprehension is terrible. You aren't even refuting what I said. You are making up your own strawman.

I said they would hire him as a Quarterbacks Coach because....that is what he f'n does at his camps and he is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game as a pure throwing quarterback.

Sorry to disappoint you but you aren't that good of a troll and at this point it is obvious that you would be better off claiming to be trolling right now rather than trying to claim you know what you are talking about.

Next.

I'm sorry I can't take a man seriously who believes that holding a QB camp counts as coaching experience at the collegiate level. Your debate skills remind me of the SEC West. Overrated and convinced of your own greatness.

Game. Set. Match.

03-zzz
(01-12-2015 07:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]For those of you that were part of our conversation about the possibility of Peyton Manning somewhat following in the footsteps of Harbaugh, you will know where this thread is coming form. For the rest of you?

It was my belief earlier, that I brought up, that Manning may very well be the next big announcement when it comes to College Football Coaching. Some folks agreed with me that this year was looking to be Manning's last, while others disagreed. I would in fact say more folks didn't think it would be his last year this year.

So now I am bringing it up against after the post season pretty much went exactly as I thought and stated that it would for Peyton. They are talking about some leg injury that he has been playing with. I thought it looked like his back but a leg injury can affect throwing just as much due to not being able to plant. This is becoming a regular thing. Manning starts a year in good shape but his body no longer allows for the usual bumps and dings to be overcome. His body doesn't heal like it used to and he isn't mobile so he takes more shots than most.

I think we have seen the last of Manning as a quarterback BUT we definitely havnt seen the last of Manning. I don't include "Network Talking Head" in that statement. He will definitely do that but he is far too competitive of a person to just sit around talking about others playing the game. One year of talking and he is probably then looking for a coaching job.

Where would you place him? Some folks think that he immediately finds a job on some pro team, not as a head coach of course but as some kind of secondary role.

I don't think that happens. He isn't going to want to be coaching for and against players that he just played with and against but a year ago. His competitive juices wouldn't handle that. No, he needs to coach at the College level and he has been seen more and more at the Tennessee games.

For me, I think Tennessee would be complete idiots to let him sign on anywhere else. If I was Tennessee I would sign him on as a QB Coach that is also either an Assistant Offensive Coordinator position or Co-Offensive Coordinator position. A couple years of that and despite Butch Jones's impressive recruiting thus far, if you are Tennessee you do whatever it takes to keep Manning on campus. I think we are going to see with Harbaugh why it would be such a big deal.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/sto...nth-season

Quote:"My mindset right now is just disappointment after [Sunday's] game," Manning said after the defeat. "I'm disappointed. I kind of need to process this game. We'll meet [Monday]. I'm disappointed I need to process this game."

Asked if he could definitely say he was planning to return to the Broncos next season, Manning said, after a short pause: "Uh, yeah, I guess I just can't give that simple answer. I'm processing it. I can't say that. I could not say that."



According to some people in Tennessee, Manning has told friends that he has absolutely no interest in ever being a college football coach. We'll likely see how accurate this is sooner rather than later as the sun is quickly setting on Peyton's days as an NFL QB.

There was a report that came out a month ago that discusses the possibility of Peyton owning and operating the Titans within the next couple of years. The article mentions Peyton being interested in following a similar career path to John Elway. Anyway, here's a link to that article - http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...f-nfl-team. Manning's ties to both Jimmy Haslam and Fred Smith does make this an intriguing possibility.
Peyton has 2 more seasons on his Denver contract at about $20 million per. I'd think he won't retire now unless the Broncos pay him a large settlement on the contract. And as poorly as he played on Sunday, Peyton is still the best option they are likely to have in 2015. If Peyton retires now, Denver is sending journeymen and career backups out to play QB this fall.
Peyton Manning isn't going to be Coaching anywhere...if anything he takes a John Elway type role with either the Tennessee Titans or Cleveland Browns...07-coffee3
Wedge - I'd agree - I think the money that he's owed plus the *mountain* of endorsements that he has (most of which are likely have provisions that pay him less or terminate of he's not playing) will keep him in the NFL through the end of his contract.

I have no idea whether he's interested in coaching or not - I don't think anyone here could really have a handle on that one way or the other without knowing him personally. The *general* trend across sports, though, is that superstars don't head into coaching often. Instead, they're more likely to end up as executives or seek ownership roles (think of Peyton's current boss of John Elway) where they can fill their competitive needs while not having to deal with the daily grind of coaching. Larry Bird is the last true superstar of a sport that went into coaching, and even he ended up burning out quickly and has been an executive ever since. That was almost two decades ago at this point.

If I were to *guess*, Peyton will either end up in a role like John Elway (maybe with the Titans or even with the Colts) or get the both of worlds a la Shaq where he's both a TV analyst and a part-owner of a team. I wouldn't underestimate his potential desire to be on TV - he has been the most prolific endorser in sports next to LeBron and likely wants to find a way to keep that going at a certain level in the way Michael Jordan has been able to do, which requires maintaining a very high profile (which really isn't how college coaching works even for the elite guys like Saban and Meyer). That's just a pure guess, though.
I could see he and his brother(s) owning a team. Perhaps Irsay is about ready to cash out, but... he's only 55.

I don't see him as a coach, but I'm sure he could do it if that's what he sets his mind on.
(01-13-2015 02:06 AM)MeanMachine Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-12-2015 07:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: [ -> ]For those of you that were part of our conversation about the possibility of Peyton Manning somewhat following in the footsteps of Harbaugh, you will know where this thread is coming form. For the rest of you?

It was my belief earlier, that I brought up, that Manning may very well be the next big announcement when it comes to College Football Coaching. Some folks agreed with me that this year was looking to be Manning's last, while others disagreed. I would in fact say more folks didn't think it would be his last year this year.

So now I am bringing it up against after the post season pretty much went exactly as I thought and stated that it would for Peyton. They are talking about some leg injury that he has been playing with. I thought it looked like his back but a leg injury can affect throwing just as much due to not being able to plant. This is becoming a regular thing. Manning starts a year in good shape but his body no longer allows for the usual bumps and dings to be overcome. His body doesn't heal like it used to and he isn't mobile so he takes more shots than most.

I think we have seen the last of Manning as a quarterback BUT we definitely havnt seen the last of Manning. I don't include "Network Talking Head" in that statement. He will definitely do that but he is far too competitive of a person to just sit around talking about others playing the game. One year of talking and he is probably then looking for a coaching job.

Where would you place him? Some folks think that he immediately finds a job on some pro team, not as a head coach of course but as some kind of secondary role.

I don't think that happens. He isn't going to want to be coaching for and against players that he just played with and against but a year ago. His competitive juices wouldn't handle that. No, he needs to coach at the College level and he has been seen more and more at the Tennessee games.

For me, I think Tennessee would be complete idiots to let him sign on anywhere else. If I was Tennessee I would sign him on as a QB Coach that is also either an Assistant Offensive Coordinator position or Co-Offensive Coordinator position. A couple years of that and despite Butch Jones's impressive recruiting thus far, if you are Tennessee you do whatever it takes to keep Manning on campus. I think we are going to see with Harbaugh why it would be such a big deal.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/sto...nth-season

Quote:"My mindset right now is just disappointment after [Sunday's] game," Manning said after the defeat. "I'm disappointed. I kind of need to process this game. We'll meet [Monday]. I'm disappointed I need to process this game."

Asked if he could definitely say he was planning to return to the Broncos next season, Manning said, after a short pause: "Uh, yeah, I guess I just can't give that simple answer. I'm processing it. I can't say that. I could not say that."



According to some people in Tennessee, Manning has told friends that he has absolutely no interest in ever being a college football coach. We'll likely see how accurate this is sooner rather than later as the sun is quickly setting on Peyton's days as an NFL QB.

There was a report that came out a month ago that discusses the possibility of Peyton owning and operating the Titans within the next couple of years. The article mentions Peyton being interested in following a similar career path to John Elway. Anyway, here's a link to that article - http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...f-nfl-team. Manning's ties to both Jimmy Haslam and Fred Smith does make this an intriguing possibility.

Interesting, guess we will see. If he doesn't want to coach then he doesn't want to coach. Going the Elway route is viable too for his personality. It certainly does seem like a possibility in terms of theory.
How many of us, with no financial worries at all, wouldn't at least consider just staying home for a while and spending time with their two adorable four year old children before they start school?
(01-13-2015 12:00 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]How many of us, with no financial worries at all, wouldn't at least consider just staying home for a while and spending time with their two adorable four year old children before they start school?

Urban Meyer went and signed a contract with his family because they wanted him to spend more time with them. That was a major reason for him retiring from Florida. He didn't last very long did he?

When you say "us", you are talking about a different type of person. To those that thrive on that competition, life is empty without it and they aren't the same person. Their families have to accept who they are and find a balance.
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