"Aaron Rodgers didn't come into the league as the best deep-ball thrower in the NFL. But as he developed that skill over time, the Green Bay Packers had to invent new, more difficult ways for him to work on his accuracy on deep balls."
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/packers-inv...44272.html
I'm willing to turn to the F'n Packers to help Hare with what is possibly his biggest weakness. Apparently we just needed a big Pop-A-Shot for him at practice.
He needs help with accuracy on all of his throws. He seems like a great kid and I hope that NIU has the talent on the coaching staff to work with him in developing his skills.
Yup. Aaron Freakin Rodgers struggled with throwing the deep ball but some people here will lead you to believe Hare will become good at it with a springs worth of first team reps.
I'm hoping his problems with short passes/screens are more just a matter of timing and consistency that can be cured with experience and repetition. I think his intermediate throws are actually OK. And finally his pretty bad deep throws are a matter of mechanics and practice. That's the optimist in me because I do think the kids a gamer.
(01-07-2015 07:36 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]I'm hoping his problems with short passes/screens are more just a matter of timing and consistency that can be cured with experience and repetition. I think his intermediate throws are actually OK. And finally his pretty bad deep throws are a matter of mechanics and practice. That's the optimist in me because I do think the kids a gamer.
I think there is a lot to this, much of his inaccuracy seems to stem from late decision-making. He is just a quarter second too late with his throws most times. My theory is that much of this is the fear of the turnover.
(01-07-2015 07:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2015 07:36 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]I'm hoping his problems with short passes/screens are more just a matter of timing and consistency that can be cured with experience and repetition. I think his intermediate throws are actually OK. And finally his pretty bad deep throws are a matter of mechanics and practice. That's the optimist in me because I do think the kids a gamer.
I think there is a lot to this, much of his inaccuracy seems to stem from late decision-making. He is just a quarter second too late with his throws most times. My theory is that much of this is the fear of the turnover.
It defies logic that someone as inaccurate as Hare doesn't throw picks. But i think it's because he's inaccurate on the short passes and long passes. Screens and quick outs don't often get picked. Neither do the deep balls overthrown by 5 yards. But he's accurate in the intermediate range and this limits his interceptions. He "aims" or pushes the screen pass. And he just errs on the side of caution on the deep ball. Too much thinking. But on a 15 yard slant….it's 1-2-3 fire! No thinking, no aiming. Just throw it.
The staff did a great job of minimizing the scheme in a effort to avoid patterns with higher risk. There were very few read/progression routes. Our strength was our running game, which Drew was surprisingly an important part of. This allowed us to go deep with out dual coverage (a low risk pass); and it opened up bubble screens and out routes. Offensively we took what the defense gave us. Given Drew's inexperience, and the strengths of the team (running attack) this approach was perfect. From what I seen from QB's on the team and coming in, Drew is the man. Maddie is a better runner, but he does not pose the passing threat that Drew does. Not sure about Graham; Ingold looks like a tremendous runner with decent passing skills; Santacaterina looks like a solid passing QB who is mobile. I think Hare's upside is huge. Things could be interesting next year if we need a 2nd QB.
(01-07-2015 10:02 PM)Djud Wrote: [ -> ]The staff did a great job of minimizing the scheme in a effort to avoid patterns with higher risk. There were very few read/progression routes. Our strength was our running game, which Drew was surprisingly an important part of. This allowed us to go deep with out dual coverage (a low risk pass); and it opened up bubble screens and out routes. Offensively we took what the defense gave us. Given Drew's inexperience, and the strengths of the team (running attack) this approach was perfect. From what I seen from QB's on the team and coming in, Drew is the man. Maddie is a better runner, but he does not pose the passing threat that Drew does. Not sure about Graham; Ingold looks like a tremendous runner with decent passing skills; Santacaterina looks like a solid passing QB who is mobile. I think Hare's upside is huge. Things could be interesting next year if we need a 2nd QB.
Isn't it time we question Maddie's running instincts? He's definitely a better athlete, but does he have the feel to find the holes and cut back lanes? Hare seems to, as awkward as he looks. And Maddie isn't that crazy good of an athlete who can outrun people to the corner.
Hare was protected by the play calling, I'd agree. But Hare seems to be the opposite of what many try to do….not make an athlete into a QB, but make a QB into an athlete(somewhat).
Ingold will be interesting. But I'm really curious to see a better developed Hare.
Hare is young and I think for a first year QB replacing one of the best QB's in the country the kid has done well. I think it will only get better, we might be talking about Hare like we do about Lynch or Harnish. Hare is not Lynch, he is not Harnish, but he brings different positives to the table. I like him, I like him a lot. Hare is tough, and he wins.... He is my QB
(01-07-2015 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ]Yup. Aaron Freakin Rodgers struggled with throwing the deep ball but some people here will lead you to believe Hare will become good at it with a springs worth of first team reps.
Wait...what?
(01-08-2015 08:19 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2015 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ]Yup. Aaron Freakin Rodgers struggled with throwing the deep ball but some people here will lead you to believe Hare will become good at it with a springs worth of first team reps.
Wait...what?
I don't think I could be any more clear.
Somebody want to help this guy out?
If we ever compare Aaron Rodgers and Drew Hare, and it's accurate, we've either got great drugs or are deliriously happy and don't need drugs. Which is good, because the money saved on drugs can go towards the Big 12 expansion, a'course.
he was an inexperienced sophomore...of course he has a great chance to improve both throwing strength & accuracy. no brainer
(01-08-2015 09:49 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 08:19 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2015 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ]Yup. Aaron Freakin Rodgers struggled with throwing the deep ball but some people here will lead you to believe Hare will become good at it with a springs worth of first team reps.
Wait...what?
I don't think I could be any more clear.
Somebody want to help this guy out?
I'm a help. You be sayin' that this fella, Hippity Hoppity Hare, has been tossin' the ol' pigskin since he was a little one. How many tosses would that be? Lotsa, Lotsa, Lotsa.
This gentleman, Lucky Number Seven, he thinks that he can sprinkle magical fairy dust over Hippity Hoppity in spring training camp and POOF! - now he knows how to do what he never could before.
Juicy knows that there is a certain stink over Hippity Hoppity Hare that can't be unstinked with perfumey perfume. Smells pretty. Lucky Number Seven likes it. He's sniffing. Take a deep breath. Lovely.
Chim-Chimeny Chim-Chimeny Chim Chim Cheree, A QB can't learn what he never could be. So now I say to you my silly little bloke, you'll still be unhappy as he continues to choke.
(01-08-2015 12:38 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote: [ -> ]he was an inexperienced sophomore...of course he has a great chance to improve both throwing strength & accuracy. no brainer
Not sure what the purpose of this thread was, but Hare won this job as a RS Soph will limited practices and performed admirably this year. He was just as good as Lynch and Harnish were their soph years I'm sure. Do we all look for improvement from him next year? Of course, and I'm sure we'll see it. Key will be if he can remain healthy.
(01-08-2015 09:49 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 08:19 AM)7 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2015 07:32 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote: [ -> ]Yup. Aaron Freakin Rodgers struggled with throwing the deep ball but some people here will lead you to believe Hare will become good at it with a springs worth of first team reps.
Wait...what?
I don't think I could be any more clear.
Somebody want to help this guy out?
I still don't get it. Lynch was great at throwing the deep ball. Harnish was horrible at it his first two years and then was pretty damn good at it his last two years. What does that have to do with Aaron Rodgers, though?
Still have no idea what your point is. Are you saying because Rodgers struggled with it Hare can't improve? If so, that's a pretty dumb jump to make.
I look forward to your angry response.
(01-08-2015 01:48 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]Still have no idea what your point is.
Because it makes no sense. Seems like he's insinuating that since Rodgers struggled with deep throws at one time in his life, Drew Hare has no chance of improving his own throwing ability. Yeah. Legit.
(01-08-2015 01:53 PM)armour248 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:48 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]Still have no idea what your point is.
Because it makes no sense. Seems like he's insinuating that since Rodgers struggled with deep throws at one time in his life, Drew Hare has no chance of improving his own throwing ability. Yeah. Legit.
Thought so. Yeah, that makes no sense.
(01-08-2015 01:54 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:53 PM)armour248 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:48 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]Still have no idea what your point is.
Because it makes no sense. Seems like he's insinuating that since Rodgers struggled with deep throws at one time in his life, Drew Hare has no chance of improving his own throwing ability. Yeah. Legit.
Thought so. Yeah, that makes no sense.
No, he is saying that it took Aaron Rodgers, arguably the best QB in the NFL, serious time in the Packers organization to develop a well thrown deep ball. So he is saying that Hare CAN improve, but expecting him to with the snap of a finger is unrealistic. Hopefully the NIU QB coaches are even half as good as the Packers', so with the proper time, Hare can turn in to NIUs version of A.a Ron
(01-08-2015 02:24 PM)NSwanson89 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:54 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:53 PM)armour248 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-08-2015 01:48 PM)7 Wrote: [ -> ]Still have no idea what your point is.
Because it makes no sense. Seems like he's insinuating that since Rodgers struggled with deep throws at one time in his life, Drew Hare has no chance of improving his own throwing ability. Yeah. Legit.
Thought so. Yeah, that makes no sense.
No, he is saying that it took Aaron Rodgers, arguably the best QB in the NFL, serious time in the Packers organization to develop a well thrown deep ball. So he is saying that Hare CAN improve, but expecting him to with the snap of a finger is unrealistic. Hopefully the NIU QB coaches are even half as good as the Packers', so with the proper time, Hare can turn in to NIUs version of A.a Ron
Well at least someone gets it.