(01-14-2015 10:38 PM)ziggy1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2015 10:15 PM)Big Blue Crazy Wrote: [ -> ]Del. Ron Villanueva R-Virginia Beach (21st District - parts of Chesapeake and Virginia Beach); (804) 698-1021; DelRVillanueva@house.virginia.gov; Member since: 2004
ODU Grad!!!!
Any others on this list?
Sen. Kenneth Alexander D-Norfolk (5th District - Parts of Chesapeake and Norfolk); (804) 698-7505; district05@senate.virginia.gov; Member since: 2012
Not only should you raise the issue with them, donate to their re-election campaigns next time they are up for re-election. We need more ODU Alumni in the General Assembly!
ODU Alum Del. Ken Plum, Dem., (36th District - Fairfax, Reston). Member of the Virginia House of Delegates since 1995.
804-698-1036; 804-786-6310 (FAX), DelKPlum@house.virginia.gov
ODU Alum Del. Roslyn Tyler, Dem., (75th District - Emporia, Franklin). Member of the Virginia House of Delegates since 2006.
(804) 698-1075, DelRTyler@house.virginia.gov
ODU and JMU Alum Del. Richard Bell, Rep., (20th District - Augusta, Highland, Rockingham). Member of the Virginia House of Delegates since 2009.
(804) 698-1020, DelDBell@house.virginia.gov
ODU Alum Del. Tommy Wright, Rep., (61st District - Amelia, Mecklenburg, Cumberland, Nottoway). Member of the Virginia House of Delegates since 2001.
(804) 698-1061; DelTWright@house.virginia.gov
This bill almost specifically targets ODU and also throws cold water on any attempt by JMU to move up.
Have we seen massive demonstrations on campus with students outraged by the fees? He's searching for problems. Typical politician.
(01-15-2015 10:32 AM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ]This bill almost specifically targets ODU and also throws cold water on any attempt by JMU to move up.
Have we seen massive demonstrations on campus with students outraged by the fees? He's searching for problems. Typical politician.
I don't see this as specifically targeting ODU.
Quote:School 2013/2014 athletic fees only
JMU 1,234
Radford 1,150
Longwood 1,829
VMI 1,576
UMW 135
Va State 887
NSU 1,545
Richard Bland 0
GMU 522.86
VT 273
ODU 1361.59
W&M 1,575
UVA 657
CNU 1,387
VCU 697
UVA Wise 1,403
Those schools in conferences with no external (television) revenue sources, but still fielding scholarship football will be impacted the most.
W&M, VMI, NSU, CNU?, VSU, and JMU stand to be the biggest losers.
But yeah, nobody is forcing anyone to go to these schools and thus pay the fees. It should be the market that decides the issue.
Additionally, and maybe most important, If this devastates athletic programs and forces downsizing, it actually restricts choices.
In fact, if someone wants to go to a school for the "full" collegiate experience, and many do, this asinine Bill could then restrict the choices to only UVA and VT if they wanted to remain in state.
Why stop at colleges? I am sure tuition is used at these private high schools to fund athletics.
I called all the offices of all six Delegates who represent Norfolk (Joannou, James, Stolle, Hester, Lindsey, and Bloxom) this morning. I voiced my deep opposition to HB1897 and requested a NO vote if it comes to a vote. I also called the three senators who represent Norfolk (Alexander, Lewis, and Wagner) with the same message. Thanks for the list oldtimer.
I received a call back from Del. Bloxom and he wanted any clarification on the bill that I could add. His opinion is that it will probably not get out of committee; which means it would not come ip for vote. He added that in his opinion it would just add unnecessary work for everybody. He said all such bills and committees can be tracked at virginiageneralassembly.gov
It was great to get such a quick and direct response.
P.S. When I told Del.Bloxom I think Cox is just posturing he laughed and said, "yeah, there's always quite a bit of that going on up here."
(01-15-2015 11:17 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote: [ -> ]I called all the offices of all six Delegates who represent Norfolk (Joannou, James, Stolle, Hester, Lindsey, and Bloxom) this morning. I voiced my deep opposition to HB1897 and requested a NO vote if it comes to a vote. I also called the three senators who represent Norfolk (Alexander, Lewis, and Wagner) with the same message. Thanks for the list oldtimer.
I received a call back from Del. Bloxom and he wanted any clarification on the bill that I could add. His opinion is that it will probably not get out of committee; which means it would not come ip for vote. He added that in his opinion it would just add unnecessary work for everybody. He said all such bills and committees can be tracked at virginiageneralassembly.gov
It was great to get such a quick and direct response
Let's hope this thing dies soon because until it's dead, it casts a shadow of uncertainty on the whole program that will not be helpful in recruiting or moving the stadium project forward.
Everyone should read this in it's entirety.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...orts_N.htm
I like this, as I am quite sure it similarly applies to ODU:
Quote:A University of California-Berkeley faculty group seeking ways to reduce the campus' financial support of athletics acknowledged in a recent report that besides having a "significant" impact on the school's $250 million in annual academic fundraising, Cal's wide-ranging and successful sports program "adds to campus spirit and unity, provides free advertising for the campus, helps in branding, and provides a link and outreach to alumni."
At least in Virginia, students know what they are getting into.
(01-15-2015 11:06 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see this as specifically targeting ODU.
W&M, VMI, NSU, CNU?, VSU, and JMU stand to be the biggest losers.
ODU is at 73% and needs to be at 20%.
JMU is at 79% and needs to be at 70%.
That's not even in the same universe.
(01-15-2015 12:03 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2015 11:06 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see this as specifically targeting ODU.
W&M, VMI, NSU, CNU?, VSU, and JMU stand to be the biggest losers.
ODU is at 73% and needs to be at 20%.
JMU is at 79% and needs to be at 70%.
That's not even in the same universe.
Yup. This is targeting one school and one school alone, ODU. Practically ever other college would be able to stay relatively close to where they are budget-wise. UVA and VT are well under the 20% as it is.
(01-15-2015 12:03 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2015 11:06 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see this as specifically targeting ODU.
W&M, VMI, NSU, CNU?, VSU, and JMU stand to be the biggest losers.
ODU is at 73% and needs to be at 20%.
JMU is at 79% and needs to be at 70%.
That's not even in the same universe.
Except that it absolutely kills any chance JMU has to move up.
Definitely, and that sucks for them.
However, it's going to be a much harder hit on a school that made the jump and now has to slash, cut, and burn to get where this bill wants them to if it passes.
Any timeline for this? When will be able to stop worrying?
Okay--so why can other schools get to 20% and we're over 70%? Is it donations? TV revenue?
What is it?
(01-15-2015 12:03 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2015 11:06 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see this as specifically targeting ODU.
W&M, VMI, NSU, CNU?, VSU, and JMU stand to be the biggest losers.
ODU is at 73% and needs to be at 20%.
JMU is at 79% and needs to be at 70%.
That's not even in the same universe.
ODU is likely not at 73% as those numbers do not reflect revenue generated from our affiliation with CUSA, which isn't applicable until 2014/2015. The 73% figure uses 2012/2013 numbers.
Additionally, the State has the option to arbitrarily define ODU at an intermediate level, removed from VT/UVA.
Quote:“We are aware of the differences between the so-called power conferences and other conferences in I-A (FBS),” Cox wrote in an email. Before 2020, he said, the state could determine whether there needed to be two tiers within the FBS: one for Tech and Virginia, the other for ODU.
http://hamptonroads.com/2015/01/bill-cou...erence-usa
That allows for some wiggle room.
I stand by my assertion that the real target is JMU. It currently has declining athletic revenues. It's donations are essentially stagnant, and certainly not achieving stated goals. This Bill would eliminate any possibility of an FBS moveup, and considering the above, would force JMU into cuts even to make up the 9%.
(01-15-2015 12:19 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ]Okay--so why can other schools get to 20% and we're over 70%? Is it donations? TV revenue?
What is it?
There are only two schools in Virginia under 20%, let alone anywhere close to 20%. They're both in the ACC where their annual share is higher than our annual income from all sources (except for student fees). Last year, the ACC distributed $291.7 mil to conference members. Roughly 20.7 mil per school. That's a nice head start when it comes to budgeting.
(01-15-2015 12:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2015 12:19 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ]Okay--so why can other schools get to 20% and we're over 70%? Is it donations? TV revenue?
What is it?
There are only two schools in Virginia under 20%, let alone anywhere close to 20%. They're both in the ACC where their annual share is higher than our annual income from all sources (except for student fees). Last year, the ACC distributed $291.7 mil to conference members. Roughly 20.7 mil per school. That's a nice head start when it comes to budgeting.
yes indeed.
Quote:More than 6,100 student athletes compete on 280 sports teams across the 15 schools, but only four generate revenue that exceeds their expenditures: the Virginia Tech and University of Virginia football and basketball teams.
In the 2011-12 school year, UVa. basketball brought in $621,000 more than it spent and Virginia Tech basketball netted $5.28 million. UVa. football, meanwhile, brought in $22.4 million and netted a $5.1 million surplus, with Virginia Tech football bringing in $38.4 million and making $13.7 million more than it spent.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...get-an-av/
Well I took the time to send a message to two House of Delegates in my area opposing Kirk Cox HB 1897: Chris Peace and Buddy Fowler both Republicans. Not sure if it will do any good. Both know sports but one tends to focus on Hampden Sydney/ Randolph Macon matchups and the other hunting. I let them know just about every Old Dominion University Alumnus I know opposes the bill.
(01-15-2015 12:59 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: [ -> ]Well I took the time to send a message to two House of Delegates in my area opposing Kirk Cox HB 1897: Chris Peace and Buddy Fowler both Republicans. Not sure if it will do any good. Both know sports but one tends to focus on Hampden Sydney/ Randolph Macon matchups and the other hunting. I let them know just about every Old Dominion University Alumnus I know opposes the bill.
Lets see what they have to tell.
I received a response back from an aide to Delegate Leftwich, but it seemed boilerplate--asking for address to ensure I'm a constituent.
He should listen to me, he was my divorce lawyer and my son is friends with his kid :)
(01-15-2015 02:13 PM)djnva Wrote: [ -> ]I received a response back from an aide to Delegate Leftwich, but it seemed boilerplate--asking for address to ensure I'm a constituent.
He should listen to me, he was my divorce lawyer and my son is friends with his kid :)
As a life long republican and active voter, if this were to pass, I would have to seriously reconsider my party affiliation. That's how much it means to me. And I think thousands of ODU alumni in this area might do the same. Without the Hampton roads area, the republican party in Virginia is toast.