"He's an honorable man, a hard working coach, a blue collar guy with a bit of an attitude when it comes to the big boys. But I'm biased...
Short of committing homicide or some other violent act, Donnie Tyndall & Justin Phelps will ALWAYS be on my A-list. They both went above & beyond to reach out to me on a personal level and do something very special. Something I will never forget. Me, a loyal but lowly fan who bleeds black-and-gold, attends games, sends in an annual meager amount of support but will never be in the big donor circle. They didn't have to do a thing; could have very easily blown my story off with a simple note; but they chose not to.
I say all that just to make the point that whatever the NCAA finds, whatever their enforcers do about it, doesn't matter. They operate with an agenda - like most wealthy corporate entities. I'd hire Donnie back in a New York minute. If the UT brass are smart, they'll stay with him."
--timsgolf
So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Yes, that and more is excused... maybe there's some sarcasm there that I didn't detect.
This is a guy who got us to the NIT twice. His (less likable?) predecessor took Memphis to OT in the conference tourney, went to the NCAAs, won (?) 120 games at USM, etc.
Eustachy was a matter-of-fact dude who liked to party and get wasted with college chicks, but gave it up so he could win games at USM. And he did it right, for 8 years.
(12-20-2014 03:23 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ] (12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Yes, that and more is excused... maybe there's some sarcasm there that I didn't detect.
This is a guy who got us to the NIT twice. His (less likable?) predecessor took Memphis to OT in the conference tourney, went to the NCAAs, won (?) 120 games at USM, etc.
Eustachy was a matter-of-fact dude who liked to party and get wasted with college chicks, but gave it up so he could win games at USM. And he did it right, for 8 years.
He didnt give it up to win lol. He gave it up because once his ex got finished with him he couldnt afford to drink anything but diet coke lol
That post was rich, but I got a bigger kick out of his subsequent post where he bragged about how Tyndall landed multiple impact players in a small amount of time. Uhhh, yeah, and now we're under investigation for RECRUITING VIOLATIONS. Do ya think there
might be a connection there? Just about anybody could assemble a nice crew of transfers if they walked through an AAU tourney waving around rent and tuition money.
For the record, I'm not even hardcore anti-cheating. I'm not naive enough to think everybody in college sports is on the up-and-up, and I'll entertain the argument that you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up, but crap, either a) be smart enough to not get caught, or b) make it worth your while if you are going to get caught. You should at least be in the Sweet 16 by the time the NCAA starts sniffing around.
The whole Tyndall phenomenon was the damnedest thing. I still can't figure out how going to the NIT suddenly became the GREATEST! THING! EVER! when we went to the NCAAs a year earlier and nobody even noticed. Well, that's not true. I do know how: Eustachy didn't suffer fools lightly whereas Tyndall was willing to kiss ass as described above. I've got nothing against a coach being personable or having a past connection to the school, but we've got WAY too many "fans" who are more driven by how important they can make themselves feel and how many names they can drop than they are by the best interests of our athletic programs. (That's also how you end up with a woefully unqualified former QB as your athletic director, but that's an altogether different story...or is it?)
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Well, now. This is the first I've heard of that one. The plot thickens....
That is what I love about the internet. People can write whatever they want and pass it as fact. Hilarious. Better listen to Goldstandard.....
(12-21-2014 03:06 AM)HarborPointe Wrote: [ -> ]That post was rich, but I got a bigger kick out of his subsequent post where he bragged about how Tyndall landed multiple impact players in a small amount of time. Uhhh, yeah, and now we're under investigation for RECRUITING VIOLATIONS. Do ya think there might be a connection there? Just about anybody could assemble a nice crew of transfers if they walked through an AAU tourney waving around rent and tuition money.
For the record, I'm not even hardcore anti-cheating. I'm not naive enough to think everybody in college sports is on the up-and-up, and I'll entertain the argument that you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up, but crap, either a) be smart enough to not get caught, or b) make it worth your while if you are going to get caught. You should at least be in the Sweet 16 by the time the NCAA starts sniffing around.
The whole Tyndall phenomenon was the damnedest thing. I still can't figure out how going to the NIT suddenly became the GREATEST! THING! EVER! when we went to the NCAAs a year earlier and nobody even noticed. Well, that's not true. I do know how: Eustachy didn't suffer fools lightly whereas Tyndall was willing to kiss ass as described above. I've got nothing against a coach being personable or having a past connection to the school, but we've got WAY too many "fans" who are more driven by how important they can make themselves feel and how many names they can drop than they are by the best interests of our athletic programs. (That's also how you end up with a woefully unqualified former QB as your athletic director, but that's an altogether different story...or is it?)
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Well, now. This is the first I've heard of that one. The plot thickens....
donnie tyndall is a sleazy fat tub of goo. He was that way long before he ever stepped foot in Hattiesburg. He was sleazy at Morehead. He was sleazy at Middle. I have first person accounts from someone that played at middle when the fat tub of sleazy goo did Kermit's dirty work so Kermie was insulated.
And I'm not naive enough to not know it goes on to some degree everywhere. But when you wanna get rich quick then you may be a bit more blatant than others. Donnie Sleazy tub of Goo wanted to get rich quick.
I just hope some of it takes him down along with the assistants and the school he left in his wake.
(12-21-2014 08:14 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 03:06 AM)HarborPointe Wrote: [ -> ]That post was rich, but I got a bigger kick out of his subsequent post where he bragged about how Tyndall landed multiple impact players in a small amount of time. Uhhh, yeah, and now we're under investigation for RECRUITING VIOLATIONS. Do ya think there might be a connection there? Just about anybody could assemble a nice crew of transfers if they walked through an AAU tourney waving around rent and tuition money.
For the record, I'm not even hardcore anti-cheating. I'm not naive enough to think everybody in college sports is on the up-and-up, and I'll entertain the argument that you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up, but crap, either a) be smart enough to not get caught, or b) make it worth your while if you are going to get caught. You should at least be in the Sweet 16 by the time the NCAA starts sniffing around.
The whole Tyndall phenomenon was the damnedest thing. I still can't figure out how going to the NIT suddenly became the GREATEST! THING! EVER! when we went to the NCAAs a year earlier and nobody even noticed. Well, that's not true. I do know how: Eustachy didn't suffer fools lightly whereas Tyndall was willing to kiss ass as described above. I've got nothing against a coach being personable or having a past connection to the school, but we've got WAY too many "fans" who are more driven by how important they can make themselves feel and how many names they can drop than they are by the best interests of our athletic programs. (That's also how you end up with a woefully unqualified former QB as your athletic director, but that's an altogether different story...or is it?)
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Well, now. This is the first I've heard of that one. The plot thickens....
donnie tyndall is a sleazy fat tub of goo. He was that way long before he ever stepped foot in Hattiesburg. He was sleazy at Morehead. He was sleazy at Middle. I have first person accounts from someone that played at middle when the fat tub of sleazy goo did Kermit's dirty work so Kermie was insulated.
And I'm not naive enough to not know it goes on to some degree everywhere. But when you wanna get rich quick then you may be a bit more blatant than others. Donnie Sleazy tub of Goo wanted to get rich quick.
I just hope some of it takes him down along with the assistants and the school he left in his wake.
I have to admit (once again) my nuts got sucked into the hype of DT....sleazy fat tub o' goo is easily apropos....
I'm not certain how to process the statement in bold, but we did just get our ass handed to us by 20 to a 1-9 swac team if that helps
...me thinks you are referencing one (both) of those tennessee schools?
(12-21-2014 09:06 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 08:14 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 03:06 AM)HarborPointe Wrote: [ -> ]That post was rich, but I got a bigger kick out of his subsequent post where he bragged about how Tyndall landed multiple impact players in a small amount of time. Uhhh, yeah, and now we're under investigation for RECRUITING VIOLATIONS. Do ya think there might be a connection there? Just about anybody could assemble a nice crew of transfers if they walked through an AAU tourney waving around rent and tuition money.
For the record, I'm not even hardcore anti-cheating. I'm not naive enough to think everybody in college sports is on the up-and-up, and I'll entertain the argument that you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up, but crap, either a) be smart enough to not get caught, or b) make it worth your while if you are going to get caught. You should at least be in the Sweet 16 by the time the NCAA starts sniffing around.
The whole Tyndall phenomenon was the damnedest thing. I still can't figure out how going to the NIT suddenly became the GREATEST! THING! EVER! when we went to the NCAAs a year earlier and nobody even noticed. Well, that's not true. I do know how: Eustachy didn't suffer fools lightly whereas Tyndall was willing to kiss ass as described above. I've got nothing against a coach being personable or having a past connection to the school, but we've got WAY too many "fans" who are more driven by how important they can make themselves feel and how many names they can drop than they are by the best interests of our athletic programs. (That's also how you end up with a woefully unqualified former QB as your athletic director, but that's an altogether different story...or is it?)
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Well, now. This is the first I've heard of that one. The plot thickens....
donnie tyndall is a sleazy fat tub of goo. He was that way long before he ever stepped foot in Hattiesburg. He was sleazy at Morehead. He was sleazy at Middle. I have first person accounts from someone that played at middle when the fat tub of sleazy goo did Kermit's dirty work so Kermie was insulated.
And I'm not naive enough to not know it goes on to some degree everywhere. But when you wanna get rich quick then you may be a bit more blatant than others. Donnie Sleazy tub of Goo wanted to get rich quick.
I just hope some of it takes him down along with the assistants and the school he left in his wake.
I have to admit (once again) my nuts got sucked into the hype of DT....sleazy fat tub o' goo is easily apropos....
I'm not certain how to process the statement in bold, but we did just get our ass handed to us by 20 to a 1-9 swac team if that helps
...me thinks you are referencing one (both) of those tennessee schools?
Not throwing you guys under the bus at all. I didn't state it very well.
I hope the sleazy fat tub of goo GETS in trouble.
His assistants and your school will be the sacrificial lambs to the ncaa. I fear that since he's at Tennessee now they'll give him a pass.
What pisses me off is as sleazy as the fat tub of goo is.......there's way more sleaze emanating 2 hours up the road from BG in Lexington under the Beelzebub of sleaze, John Calipari. And nothing will happen up there. I'm praying when Lebron-Bron pulls Calipari up to Cleveland with him investigators will descend on Lexington like a biblical level horde of locusts and wipe out every win UK has under him.
When uk won their 2,000th game all the teefless wonders ran to Walmart and bought tees celebrating it. I told them to hang on to those shirts. They'll be able to win 2,000 a second time after all those victories get stripped.
EaglePost.net, where the banned and damned gather together....
(12-21-2014 09:44 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 09:06 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 08:14 AM)dahbeed Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 03:06 AM)HarborPointe Wrote: [ -> ]That post was rich, but I got a bigger kick out of his subsequent post where he bragged about how Tyndall landed multiple impact players in a small amount of time. Uhhh, yeah, and now we're under investigation for RECRUITING VIOLATIONS. Do ya think there might be a connection there? Just about anybody could assemble a nice crew of transfers if they walked through an AAU tourney waving around rent and tuition money.
For the record, I'm not even hardcore anti-cheating. I'm not naive enough to think everybody in college sports is on the up-and-up, and I'll entertain the argument that you gotta do what you gotta do to keep up, but crap, either a) be smart enough to not get caught, or b) make it worth your while if you are going to get caught. You should at least be in the Sweet 16 by the time the NCAA starts sniffing around.
The whole Tyndall phenomenon was the damnedest thing. I still can't figure out how going to the NIT suddenly became the GREATEST! THING! EVER! when we went to the NCAAs a year earlier and nobody even noticed. Well, that's not true. I do know how: Eustachy didn't suffer fools lightly whereas Tyndall was willing to kiss ass as described above. I've got nothing against a coach being personable or having a past connection to the school, but we've got WAY too many "fans" who are more driven by how important they can make themselves feel and how many names they can drop than they are by the best interests of our athletic programs. (That's also how you end up with a woefully unqualified former QB as your athletic director, but that's an altogether different story...or is it?)
(12-20-2014 12:37 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote: [ -> ]So donnie turning a blind eye to players failing drug test multiple times was ok cause he talked to us little people?
Well, now. This is the first I've heard of that one. The plot thickens....
donnie tyndall is a sleazy fat tub of goo. He was that way long before he ever stepped foot in Hattiesburg. He was sleazy at Morehead. He was sleazy at Middle. I have first person accounts from someone that played at middle when the fat tub of sleazy goo did Kermit's dirty work so Kermie was insulated.
And I'm not naive enough to not know it goes on to some degree everywhere. But when you wanna get rich quick then you may be a bit more blatant than others. Donnie Sleazy tub of Goo wanted to get rich quick.
I just hope some of it takes him down along with the assistants and the school he left in his wake.
I have to admit (once again) my nuts got sucked into the hype of DT....sleazy fat tub o' goo is easily apropos....
I'm not certain how to process the statement in bold, but we did just get our ass handed to us by 20 to a 1-9 swac team if that helps
...me thinks you are referencing one (both) of those tennessee schools?
Not throwing you guys under the bus at all. I didn't state it very well.
I hope the sleazy fat tub of goo GETS in trouble.
His assistants and your school will be the sacrificial lambs to the ncaa. I fear that since he's at Tennessee now they'll give him a pass.
What pisses me off is as sleazy as the fat tub of goo is.......there's way more sleaze emanating 2 hours up the road from BG in Lexington under the Beelzebub of sleaze, John Calipari. And nothing will happen up there. I'm praying when Lebron-Bron pulls Calipari up to Cleveland with him investigators will descend on Lexington like a biblical level horde of locusts and wipe out every win UK has under him.
When uk won their 2,000th game all the teefless wonders ran to Walmart and bought tees celebrating it. I told them to hang on to those shirts. They'll be able to win 2,000 a second time after all those victories get stripped.
I will just say I completely understand.....kudos bro! (I had to ask for clarification....knew it wasn't your style)
(12-21-2014 10:17 AM)nastybunch Wrote: [ -> ]EaglePost.net, where the banned and damned gather together....
nasty has me on ignore so he'll never see this...
he's basically right on this one.....they aren't all bad, but that board is one I refuse to join
it's worse than listening to the call-in shows....that's saying something.....
sigh....southern miss is so 'small-time' (perception) right now....just dadgummit
(12-21-2014 11:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (12-21-2014 10:17 AM)nastybunch Wrote: [ -> ]EaglePost.net, where the banned and damned gather together....
nasty has me on ignore so he'll never see this...
he's basically right on this one.....they aren't all bad, but that board is one I refuse to join
it's worse than listening to the call-in shows....that's saying something.....
sigh....southern miss is so 'small-time' (perception) right now....just dadgummit
Rivals has turned to eagle post 2.0
And what i posted above explain some of the summer dismissals
Here's more from the same EP member:
" I think he was also genuine as a person. He did do those things well, no doubt about that. However, he did/does much more. He stokes relationships one-on-one. He goes above and beyond in this area. He's just plain good with people. He comes across as honest. He looks you in the eye. Knowing what he did for me personally, I can only imagine the kind of attention the $$$$ guys got.
I remember one text thread we had - I think he was on the team bus on the way to Ruston his 1st year - we had not met face-to-face yet at that time, so he couldn't be totally sure who I was. The conversation was strictly basketball stuff. When my questions got a little too specific/detailed, he stopped me with a comment about some NCAA rule related to betting/gambling, and how he had to be very careful in exchanges like this. My immediate thought was, hey I know I've never heard of that in the NCAA lexicon - this dude is definitely on top of things."
(01-22-2015 05:40 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ]Here's more from the same EP member:
" I think he was also genuine as a person. He did do those things well, no doubt about that. However, he did/does much more. He stokes relationships one-on-one. He goes above and beyond in this area. He's just plain good with people. He comes across as honest. He looks you in the eye. Knowing what he did for me personally, I can only imagine the kind of attention the $$$$ guys got.
I remember one text thread we had - I think he was on the team bus on the way to Ruston his 1st year - we had not met face-to-face yet at that time, so he couldn't be totally sure who I was. The conversation was strictly basketball stuff. When my questions got a little too specific/detailed, he stopped me with a comment about some NCAA rule related to betting/gambling, and how he had to be very careful in exchanges like this. My immediate thought was, hey I know I've never heard of that in the NCAA lexicon - this dude is definitely on top of things."
bottom line....he's not wrong about DT personal marketing skills....I got hooked as did many others....
I never wanted LE to leave.....go back and read my posts when he was here....
this town just couldn't handle a west coast/midwestern former party guy join the party here....
LE would've retired here if the dipshites had some foresight....
I'm almost immune to it....
Yeah... "almost". I'm right there with you.
It occurs to me that being a head coach at USM is kind of like being pastor of some podunk Baptist church. You end up having to kiss the asses of a whooole lot of people who really don't need it, and your performance is assessed based on crap that's even more meaningless than the crap you really should be evaluated on. Like, fluffing the egos oc the TimsGolfs of the world is far more important than any trivial distinction between NCAA and NIT.
(01-22-2015 08:34 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah... "almost". I'm right there with you.
It occurs to me that being a head coach at USM is kind of like being pastor of some podunk Baptist church. You end up having to kiss the asses of a whooole lot of people who really don't need it, and your performance is assessed based on crap that's even more meaningless than the crap you really should be evaluated on. Like, fluffing the egos oc the TimsGolfs of the world is far more important than any trivial distinction between NCAA and NIT.
That's a spot on take. Take Eustachy vs. Tyndall. Eustachy didn't play that game at all. He just coached basketball and built, from the ground up, a team that made the NCAAs, and when he left town, many said good riddance and still give him no credit for what he did.
Tyndall, who by all accounts was flaunting NCAA rules in some manner, made only the NIT in his two years despite his actions, but is beloved and there are still many who defend him and blame McGillis/Sadler for the problems in the program.
(01-22-2015 06:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2015 05:40 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ]Here's more from the same EP member:
" I think he was also genuine as a person. He did do those things well, no doubt about that. However, he did/does much more. He stokes relationships one-on-one. He goes above and beyond in this area. He's just plain good with people. He comes across as honest. He looks you in the eye. Knowing what he did for me personally, I can only imagine the kind of attention the $$$$ guys got.
I remember one text thread we had - I think he was on the team bus on the way to Ruston his 1st year - we had not met face-to-face yet at that time, so he couldn't be totally sure who I was. The conversation was strictly basketball stuff. When my questions got a little too specific/detailed, he stopped me with a comment about some NCAA rule related to betting/gambling, and how he had to be very careful in exchanges like this. My immediate thought was, hey I know I've never heard of that in the NCAA lexicon - this dude is definitely on top of things."
bottom line....he's not wrong about DT personal marketing skills....I got hooked as did many others....
I never wanted LE to leave.....go back and read my posts when he was here....
this town just couldn't handle a west coast/midwestern former party guy join the party here....
LE would've retired here if the dipshites had some foresight....
I'm almost immune to it....
stink , i take back all the bad things I've ever said about you and your weird posting styles :)
I knew we were in agreement on the LE tidbit, but I honestly think we were the only ones who came out and admitted that publically :)
(01-23-2015 11:39 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2015 06:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2015 05:40 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ]Here's more from the same EP member:
" I think he was also genuine as a person. He did do those things well, no doubt about that. However, he did/does much more. He stokes relationships one-on-one. He goes above and beyond in this area. He's just plain good with people. He comes across as honest. He looks you in the eye. Knowing what he did for me personally, I can only imagine the kind of attention the $$$$ guys got.
I remember one text thread we had - I think he was on the team bus on the way to Ruston his 1st year - we had not met face-to-face yet at that time, so he couldn't be totally sure who I was. The conversation was strictly basketball stuff. When my questions got a little too specific/detailed, he stopped me with a comment about some NCAA rule related to betting/gambling, and how he had to be very careful in exchanges like this. My immediate thought was, hey I know I've never heard of that in the NCAA lexicon - this dude is definitely on top of things."
bottom line....he's not wrong about DT personal marketing skills....I got hooked as did many others....
I never wanted LE to leave.....go back and read my posts when he was here....
this town just couldn't handle a west coast/midwestern former party guy join the party here....
LE would've retired here if the dipshites had some foresight....
I'm almost immune to it....
stink , i take back all the bad things I've ever said about you and your weird posting styles :)
I knew we were in agreement on the LE tidbit, but I honestly think we were the only ones who came out and admitted that publically :)
it didn't take long after we moved here in '74 to figure out the cliquishness of this town....and 'they' never admit when they're wrong...
It's really amazing what LE accomplished during his tenure here....
I don't blame LE for leaving.....not one bit....you know I wish we still had him....
any booster/employee that new what DT was doing (and I did not....and no, I don't work there), should be hanging their head in shame....there is no way the average fan (and we don't have many when it comes to hoops) had a clue....
It's funny (sad).....there are many locals that view Monk in the same vein....
just a bunch of spoiled little biatches is what they are.....
like I said....I'm almost immune at this point....
(01-23-2015 12:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (01-23-2015 11:39 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2015 06:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2015 05:40 PM)AndreWhere Wrote: [ -> ]Here's more from the same EP member:
" I think he was also genuine as a person. He did do those things well, no doubt about that. However, he did/does much more. He stokes relationships one-on-one. He goes above and beyond in this area. He's just plain good with people. He comes across as honest. He looks you in the eye. Knowing what he did for me personally, I can only imagine the kind of attention the $$$$ guys got.
I remember one text thread we had - I think he was on the team bus on the way to Ruston his 1st year - we had not met face-to-face yet at that time, so he couldn't be totally sure who I was. The conversation was strictly basketball stuff. When my questions got a little too specific/detailed, he stopped me with a comment about some NCAA rule related to betting/gambling, and how he had to be very careful in exchanges like this. My immediate thought was, hey I know I've never heard of that in the NCAA lexicon - this dude is definitely on top of things."
bottom line....he's not wrong about DT personal marketing skills....I got hooked as did many others....
I never wanted LE to leave.....go back and read my posts when he was here....
this town just couldn't handle a west coast/midwestern former party guy join the party here....
LE would've retired here if the dipshites had some foresight....
I'm almost immune to it....
stink , i take back all the bad things I've ever said about you and your weird posting styles :)
I knew we were in agreement on the LE tidbit, but I honestly think we were the only ones who came out and admitted that publically :)
it didn't take long after we moved here in '74 to figure out the cliquishness of this town....and 'they' never admit when they're wrong...
It's really amazing what LE accomplished during his tenure here....
I don't blame LE for leaving.....not one bit....you know I wish we still had him....
any booster/employee that new what DT was doing (and I did not....and no, I don't work there), should be hanging their head in shame....there is no way the average fan (and we don't have many when it comes to hoops) had a clue....
It's funny (sad).....there are many locals that view Monk in the same vein....
just a bunch of spoiled little biatches is what they are.....
like I said....I'm almost immune at this point....
It is comical just how quiet one certain group has gotten over the last few days.